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I do think we need a key forward, or players like Playfair, Gardiner, Dog Johnson et al to take the next step in order to bring a Premiership down the highway.

However, Chris Tarrant, as has already been mentioned, would not fit under our salary cap. Secondly, it is common knowledge that Thompson only recruits players who fulfill his 'good boy' criteria. From all reports, Tarrant is the antithesis of the archetypal Thompson player.

However, i'm not sure how realistic and practical that description of Thompson's players is. The Andrew Mackie and Dog Johnson debacle makes me question whether or not that's just a bit of a club facade.

Brendan Fevola is on an exorbitant contract. I'm sure we could trade some players to get him (notably Bartel) but I don't really think that's worth it. We need Jimmy, and there's no guarantee Fevola would fit in down there anyway.

Lance Whitnall is an interesting one. I would give him a guernsey with a $200,000 price tag. As long as Jimmy or Dog wasn't part of the swap. I think the risk is too great. We have very much an unproven and inconsistent forward, in Whitnall; and one quality, proven and consistent onballer in Bartel. And a freak of nature near the big sticks - who can only get better as he matures and recovers from his self-inflicted injuries. It would be a huge gamble in my opinion.

So where does that leave us? With nobody I guess. But i think that's ok, because Brad Ottens owes the Geelong Football Club a helluva lot.
 

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You have to put Ottens in the square. He is to slow for CHF and is better used in a 1 out body on body situation.
Sorry, didint know what i was thinking. I no he shouldnt play anywhere near CHF
 

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If Henry is on 200k and Byrnes is on 150k give Lance 350k . Gee that was hard to figure out.

If Bartel wants 300k plus and Tarrant is on 350k , put together with Sando retiring, Rahilly and maybe Riccardi, there must be some money about.

I know I didn't go to uni but maths couldn't have changed that much could it.
If Henry is on 200k and Byrnes on 150k, I will give Lance a blow job and a Big Mac meal.

There is no way either of those boys are on that. I don't know the ins and outs, but Henry would be 150k, Byrnes less than 100k. (I conceed that I, like you, am pulling these figures out of thin air). Somebody mentioned 320k over two years for Dog, (i.e. 160 per season), so that's kind of a yard stick.

Sando, Rahilly and Haynes leaving will already have been taken into accountwhen doing the contracts for next year.

Bartel wants more than 300k. Tarrant is on more than 350k, guaranteed.

Bartel is worth the same as Kelly (about $350k, I think). Stupid BigFooty innuendo has it that he wants 400k.

I study maths at uni, and I can tell you that you are right, this doesn't need complicated maths. It is just arithmetic, and I don't think there is enough left in the pot to enter into the trades you want to, jack.

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PS IF I am wrong, can somebody give me some gum? I'm going to have a nasty taste to get out of my mouth.
 

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The solution.

I would trade Henry Playfair and Shannon Byrnes for Lance Whitnall

If Bartel wants to leave (which I hope he doesn't) I would demand Polak or Tarrant at the very least.
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Lance Whitnall.. thats a joke right?? Or have we all gone mad since Friday night?
 
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#31
I know...some people are just losing the plot completely. I mean we played the swans on the weekend who had Hall and Magic both supposedly gone KPP forwards, Hall a AA superstar (I think he is overated but that is for another thread) and what did they do between them. NEINTE. It was a small forward/midfielder who won the game.

We should possibly look to trade but I dont think we need to go to drastic measures. Also have a look at players who are undervalued not just name players. Getting a trade like Essendon did with McPhee is what we really need, that player who we trade for nothing much who with a change of club, new change and maybe a new position really shines.
 

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Getting a trade like Essendon did with McPhee is what we really need, that player who we trade for nothing much who with a change of club, new change and maybe a new position really shines.
Ryley would have been that man.
 
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I know...some people are just losing the plot completely. I mean we played the swans on the weekend who had Hall and Magic both supposedly gone KPP forwards, Hall a AA superstar (I think he is overated but that is for another thread) and what did they do between them. NEINTE. It was a small forward/midfielder who won the game.

We should possibly look to trade but I dont think we need to go to drastic measures. Also have a look at players who are undervalued not just name players. Getting a trade like Essendon did with McPhee is what we really need, that player who we trade for nothing much who with a change of club, new change and maybe a new position really shines.
Spot on again. Scotty and G Money on fire. Not rocket science though people.
 

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scottydeewah said:
I know...some people are just losing the plot completely. I mean we played the swans on the weekend who had Hall and Magic both supposedly gone KPP forwards, Hall a AA superstar (I think he is overated but that is for another thread) and what did they do between them. NEINTE. It was a small forward/midfielder who won the game.

We should possibly look to trade but I dont think we need to go to drastic measures. Also have a look at players who are undervalued not just name players. Getting a trade like Essendon did with McPhee is what we really need, that player who we trade for nothing much who with a change of club, new change and maybe a new position really shines.

B.Ottens. McPhee took a year or so to settle in.
 

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#35
I'm really looking forward to next year. If we can have season like 2004 injury-wise we'll be right up there. I'll be following the pre-season as closely as I can - it'd be great to start with a full, fit and firing best 22 come Round 1. I just hope there have been some lessons learnt this week, in many facets of the game.
 

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Spot on again. Scotty and G Money on fire. Not rocket science though people.
It may not be rocket science theoretically, but in practice, you try executing a trade where you give nothing and get a lot.
 

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It may not be rocket science theoretically, but in practice, you try executing a trade where you give nothing and get a lot.
No, that is rocket science! Very rarely does it turn out that this can happen and I can't see a way that we can do it this trading season.
 

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I would trade Henry Playfair and Shannon Byrnes for Lance Whitnall
What has Whitnall done that you see him as a superior replacement to H. :confused: He's certainly been around a lot longer but I doubt he's done much better - for a much higher pay packet too. Give H as much time as Whitnall's had and then you can complain.




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Although it all seems like a doom and gloom situation at Kardinia Park, next season is certainly promising.

Matthew Egan, who has already shown plenty this year, particularly in the finals, is a real key position talent in defense. Together, Tom Harley, Matthew Scarlett and he will form an exceptionally strong defense for the likes of St Kilda and Sydney who have 3-4 talls up forward.

Timmy Callan is very much an unsung favourite, particularly on this forum and Cats Claw. Backs back into packs tirelessly, can play on the dangerous small forwards, and can even rotate through the middle. Unfortunately, Tim's year was riddled by injury, and in many people's opinion, unfair treatment from the coach - not giving him a game in the seniors. With Sanderson retiring, i could not think of a better replacement.

Mark Blake is still relatively raw, despite having a season or two in the VFL. He was rated extremely highly as a junior, playing in the ruck for the Geelong Falcons. Played a handful of games this year and showed he has the ability to tap the ball down the throat of our midfielders. Still needs to add some bulk and improve his work around the ground, but tall, mobile blokes do take time to develop.

Andrew Mackie has had 3 years on the list, and has showed several glimpses of his class, especially around goal. He is deceptively short, actually stands around 193cm.... but of course, weighs about 20 kilos. So i'm being facetious, but most know Mackie needs to bulk up if he is going to take it to the next level. I do question his level of commitment, however. The notorious drinking session with Dog, compounded by his 'inability' to add weight spells laziness to me. Perhaps i'm being harsh and his body simply struggles to gain weight, but I don't know. Still could be a very good player.

Tom Lonergan is about to enter a 'do or die' season. Really must perform. Given our stark lack of talls up forward, it is somewhat bewildering he has struggled to win a regular place in the team. When Playfair and Ottens weren't in the team, guys like Haynes and Gardiner were considered better options.

Matthew Spencer is officially the new Simon Arnott. Played several good games down back for the VFL, and was named in our best pretty much everyweek. Admittedly, the amount we got thrashed this season says maybe it wasn't such a big honour. Still, I would love to have seen him given a game when Harley was missing. Needs to break into the senior side in 2006.

Brent Prismall has 'silky skills', or at least, so i'm told. Wears the famous number 32 and from all reports, is too good for the VFL. Will probably debut next season and is an exciting onballer with a penetrating kick. Probably needs to get in the gym over summer, though.

Then there's Nathan.
You sum it up perfectly Shaitan! There is still a bit of talent that are yet to be exposed to, and next year should see a few of these guys (see: Spencer, Prismall) get a game and hopefully another couple cement spots (see: Callan).

Really does get you excited for next year, I already cant wait to redeem ourselves for this year and give it one all mighty shake!
 
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