Geelong rorting the system

[jonnobackpocket]

What’s yours? Player buys house.

No no that’s exceptional.

You managed to do it again- but this time 2 sentences, just because you have to dumb down the discussion so you can understand it doesn’t mean you need to condense everything for everyone else. Pretty healthy discussion and Phatboy hears ‘player buys house’, it’s ok mate can’t be easy.

 

[STPer18]

Hey rort fans, just confirmed BAZOOKA will be wearing the Cotton On endorsed #3 next year.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Well done. You finally broke through.
The same gif could be after the '22 prelim.

Trying to flex against a club that also has recent success is an odd choice.

So you refer to everyone as ‘pathetic losers’ and then get ya back up when someone has a crack back- odd choice. I posed a scenario with De Koning as I would have been interested to see if Geelong supporters would have been OK with it and you get one line snide comments because you can’t make a reasonable argument. Geelong have had a great run but so have a few teams - anyway enough time with this shit, winners are grinders.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Probably going to regret writing grinders instead of grinners but anyway…………

 

[Art Vandelay_]

So you refer to everyone as ‘pathetic losers’ and then get ya back up when someone has a crack back- odd choice. I posed a scenario with De Koning as I would have been interested to see if Geelong supporters would have been OK with it and you get one line snide comments because you can’t make a reasonable argument. Geelong have had a great run but so have a few teams - anyway enough time with this shit, winners are grinders.

Those who believe we're rorting the system are as pathetic as those who believed we drugged our way to success. If that isn't you then no need to be offended

My comment really shouldn't have elicited a flag flex response tbh.

 

[PhatBoy]

So you refer to everyone as ‘pathetic losers’ and then get ya back up when someone has a crack back- odd choice. I posed a scenario with De Koning as I would have been interested to see if Geelong supporters would have been OK with it and you get one line snide comments because you can’t make a reasonable argument. Geelong have had a great run but so have a few teams - anyway enough time with this shit, winners are grinders.

The situation you posed would be strange given that Smith was signed by Cotton On as an ambassador (early 2022) before he signed his last contract with the Dogs (August 2022)

So your scenario with De Koning - you’re suggesting he gets a big contract with Mission, then recommits to the Cats.

Then goes to the dogs one day.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Probably going to regret writing grinders instead of grinners but anyway…………

Wow dude, fairytale season for your side isn't enough to stop you posting about Geelong like 20 tonnes in 20 minutes.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

The situation you posed would be strange given that Smith was signed by Cotton On as an ambassador (early 2022) before he signed his last contract with the Dogs (August 2022)

So your scenario with De Koning - you’re suggesting he gets a big contract with Mission, then recommits to the Cats.

Then goes to the dogs one day.

Yeah ok- Mission signs De Koning now as an ambassador, pays him a shit tonne of money, even though he plays for another club, he signs another contract with Geelong end of this year and then goes to the bulldogs year after- I’m sure Geelong supporters would not be kicking up stink………

 

[PhatBoy]

Yeah ok- Mission signs De Koning now as an ambassador, pays him a shit tonne of money, even though he plays for another club, he signs another contract with Geelong end of this year and then goes to the bulldogs year after- I’m sure Geelong supporters would not be kicking up stink………

It was actually two years.

Why would someone sign a deal, then sign for two more years with a club, to do something dodgy.

Why not just go.

At any rate, if he wanted to leave that badly, he’s welcome to go.

You won’t find me among those who have ever kicked up a stink about anyone leaving Geelong: and hey, the league itself paid for the Suns to take the best player of the century off our hands. I didn’t blame him for going and I don’t blame them for trying to pump up the tyres of their new franchise.

 

[Mr Meow]

Yeah ok- Mission signs De Koning now as an ambassador, pays him a shit tonne of money, even though he plays for another club, he signs another contract with Geelong end of this year and then goes to the bulldogs year after- I’m sure Geelong supporters would not be kicking up stink………

95% of us would cop it on the chin like we did playing no finals at our home ground, losing Ablett for a pack of chips and Tim Kelly after a top 5 Brownlow season (yes we got good picks but were contending the next season remember).

If Sam was unhappy and saw more opportunities elsewhere, then good luck to him. It'd suck but that's life. Geelong supporters are the least feral in the comp concerning players that leave for other clubs.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It'd suck but that's life. Geelong supporters are the least feral in the comp concerning players that leave for other clubs.

Preach.

The club would continue to go on without players who want out.
No point getting wound up over it. We'll play guys who want to be here.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

95% of us would cop it on the chin like we did playing no finals at our home ground, losing Ablett for a pack of chips and Tim Kelly after a top 5 Brownlow season (yes we got good picks but were contending the next season remember).

If Sam was unhappy and saw more opportunities elsewhere, then good luck to him. It'd suck but that's life. Geelong supporters are the least feral in the comp concerning players that leave for other clubs.

Yeah fair enough, to me it’s like Hungry Jacks now start paying Starcevic a heap of money while playing for Brisbane and he turns around next year and leaves and goes to West Xoast-yep good luck to him but I can’t see how it cannot be looked at considering all the apparent rules around the salary cap. Smith to Geelong does not effect my club at all, whatever, i just can’t buy the cotton on thing is a complete coincidence - c’mon.

 

[Mr Meow]

Yeah fair enough, to me it’s like Hungry Jacks now start paying Starcevic a heap of money while playing for Brisbane and he turns around next year and leaves and goes to West Xoast-yep good luck to him but I can’t see how it cannot be looked at considering all the apparent rules around the salary cap. Smith to Geelong does not effect my club at all, whatever, i just can’t buy the cotton on thing is a complete coincidence - c’mon.

At the end of the day Geelong still traded for Smith. This isn't like an unrestricted free agent coming over on a contract half his value because of his other incomings. Smith was unhappy at Footscray as quite a few have been.

Where it gets tiresome (or amusing, depends which way you look at it) are the persistent accusations that Geelong of recent years attracts many players - and all for "unders" - due to $1 pubs and $5 farm deals. It just turns into the same "unfair home ground advantage" and "Geelong players unfairly get more AA selection" whinges.

At least there's a singular thread for it so that everyone get let all that irrational rage out now. It used to be spread across about 5 active threads on the main board.

 

[PhatBoy]

Yeah fair enough, to me it’s like Hungry Jacks now start paying Starcevic a heap of money while playing for Brisbane and he turns around next year and leaves and goes to West Xoast-yep good luck to him but I can’t see how it cannot be looked at considering all the apparent rules around the salary cap. Smith to Geelong does not effect my club at all, whatever, i just can’t buy the cotton on thing is a complete coincidence - c’mon.

Again, if he’s working for them, and then still signs ANOTHER contract with the dogs, what about that doesn’t seem legit?

Geelong gets to the point where it needs a young midfielder and at the end of 2023 it starts to sound him out as to whether he would be keen and the mail is that he would be, and there are connections built via the fact that he has a sponsorship with a major company that has ties to Geelong and understandably the cats try to use that to their advantage. I think we would be stupid not to. And we eventually sign him.

 

[FootyLad0]

Yeah fair enough, to me it’s like Hungry Jacks now start paying Starcevic a heap of money while playing for Brisbane and he turns around next year and leaves and goes to West Xoast-yep good luck to him but I can’t see how it cannot be looked at considering all the apparent rules around the salary cap. Smith to Geelong does not effect my club at all, whatever, i just can’t buy the cotton on thing is a complete coincidence - c’mon.

Speaking of which

How are you affording your list?

Apparently about 7 guys have signed mega deals and about 5 of them are already getting paid over a million dollars a year.
That isn’t sus to anyone that a superstar filled team can just seemingly lose no one and continue to throw huge contracts at everyone?

 

[Sttew]

Preach.

The club would continue to go on without players who want out.
No point getting wound up over it. We'll play guys who want to be here.

It’s happened since the competition started, and Geelong has had its share - the great Doug Wade, Ken Newland, Leigh Colbert, GAJ, and Tim Kelly - names that come to mind.

I genuinely wonder why a supporter of the reigning premiers is so fixated on Bailey Smith and Geelong.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

It’s happened since the competition started, and Geelong has had its share - the great Doug Wade, Ken Newland, Leigh Colbert, GAJ, and Tim Kelly - names that come to mind.

I genuinely wonder why a supporter of the reigning premiers is so fixated on Bailey Smith and Geelong.

Fixated I couldn’t give a shit about Bailey Smith, would not be in Brisbanes top 25, thought Bigfooty was for talking about the game, which is what I’m doing. So because the ‘conversation’ continues I am fixated

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Speaking of which

How are you affording your list?

Apparently about 7 guys have signed mega deals and about 5 of them are already getting paid over a million dollars a year.
That isn’t sus to anyone that a superstar filled team can just seemingly lose no one and continue to throw huge contracts at everyone?

7 on ‘mega’ deals and 5 at over a million a year- do tell!! Anyone can make about absolute bullshit comment, it’s just moronic when you try and use it as fact. Ashcroft and Fletcher still in their first deals, Lester was a rookie deal, Logan Morris first year, let alone the massive contracts of Darcy Fort, Lohmann, Wilmot, Ah Chee, Payne, Answerth, Starce, McKenna- need I go on, yep we must be cheating

 

[Mr Meow]

Fixated I couldn’t give a shit about Bailey Smith, would not be in Brisbanes top 25, thought Bigfooty was for talking about the game, which is what I’m doing. So because the ‘conversation’ continues I am fixated

"Would not be in Brisbane's top 25" is a bit rich.

 

[jonnobackpocket]

"Would not be in Brisbane's top 25" is a bit rich.

In your opinion.

 

[Sttew]

7 on ‘mega’ deals and 5 at over a million a year- do tell!! Anyone can make about absolute bullshit comment, it’s just moronic when you try and use it as fact. Ashcroft and Fletcher still in their first deals, Lester was a rookie deal, Logan Morris first year, let alone the massive contracts of Darcy Fort, Lohmann, Wilmot, Ah Chee, Payne, Answerth, Starce, McKenna- need I go on, yep we must be cheating

Pot calling the kettle black

 

[jonnobackpocket]

Pot calling the kettle black

So who is he replacing on ball? He ain’t playing in the backline or forward not replacing Berry or Fletcher on the wings and that’s when McLuggage isn’t there. We still have to get Kiddy Coleman and Levi in the team, let alone McCarthy who will all spend time on the wings. Unaccountable outside players are a dime a dozen hence why we go after guns like Dunkley, Neale and Daniher. Anyway that’s enough time on here- might go watch the prelim/grand final double (again). Go lions

 

[FootyLad0]

7 on ‘mega’ deals and 5 at over a million a year- do tell!! Anyone can make about absolute bullshit comment, it’s just moronic when you try and use it as fact. Ashcroft and Fletcher still in their first deals, Lester was a rookie deal, Logan Morris first year, let alone the massive contracts of Darcy Fort, Lohmann, Wilmot, Ah Chee, Payne, Answerth, Starce, McKenna- need I go on, yep we must be cheating

Neale
Dunkley
Cameron
Daniher
McLuggage
Rayner
Berry
Andrews

All signed or already had huge deals within a three year period.
Or did those numbers just magically disappear?

That’s not even including Zorko who was already on bigger dollars anyway.

 

[FootyLad0]

In your opinion.

Your opinion is shit, there’s a difference between “everyone is allowed an opinion” and “your opinion is pure stupidity”

Baz EASILY would be in your top 10 players and absolutely be pushing for top 5.
To suggest otherwise is pure insanity. This coming from someone with a Lions supporting partner and she agrees.

I distinctly remember when he single handily put the Dogs on his back and beat the Lions at the Gabba in the 2021 Semi Final.
His efforts were enormous in that win.

 

[DanA]

Your opinion is shit, there’s a difference between “everyone is allowed an opinion” and “your opinion is pure stupidity”

Baz EASILY would be in your top 10 players and absolutely be pushing for top 5.
To suggest otherwise is pure insanity. This coming from someone with a Lions supporting partner and she agrees.

I distinctly remember when he single handily put the Dogs on his back and beat the Lions at the Gabba in the 2021 Semi Final.
His efforts were enormous in that win.

As much as I want to get behind a Geelong supporter I don't think this is true for Brisbane, nor Geelong. He's probably pretty comfortably best 22 for both teams but I wouldn't think he's in either teams top 10.