Geelong rorting the system

[Meteoric Rise]

Father sons? Jed Bews (our only listed father son) didn't play on the weekend.

I am talking about the way your flag teams were compiled. This current team has it all to prove yet.

 

[Munich]

Father sons? Jed Bews (our only listed father son) didn't play on the weekend.

Tbf, I meant over the past 20 years. We've had a few. Gaz, Hawk, Scarlo. Arguably the best of the best those 3 alone.

 

[Munich]

I am talking about the way your flag teams were compiled. This current team has it all to prove yet.

This current team isn't that different from our last flag team.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Tbf, I meant over the past 20 years. We've had a few. Gaz, Hawk, Scarlo. Arguably the best of the best those 3 alone.

I am aware of this. Just pointing out discussion of the current list in terms of father sons doesn't make much sense

 

[Munich]

I am aware of this. Just pointing out discussion of the current list in terms of father sons doesn't make much sense

No it doesn't. I only brought up father sons and the draft as some poster was alluding our success was due to dodgy deals and free houses

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I am talking about the way your flag teams were compiled. This current team has it all to prove yet.

You know you're missing a trick though not bringing up our academy rorts. We've got 3 of our best 22 out of academies with a 4th coming through that is arguable our best draftee from last year.

We rorted the port adelaide, Gold Coast, West Coast, and saints academies for them

 

[CatToTheFuture]

No it doesn't. I only brought up father sons and the draft as some poster was alluding our success was due to dodgy deals and free houses

To be honest, the last 24 hours has been such a blur i can't keep track of it all

 

[Meteoric Rise]

This current team isn't that different from our last flag team.

Isaac Smith, Selwood, Touhy, Hawkins, Rohan are no longer on your list from that team.

Cats supporters queuing 10 deep on the rebuild thread to tell us Duncan, C Guthrie, Stanley, Parfitt, Bews are no longer in your best team. And Blicavs, Dangerfield are no longer as influential.

On average flag teams suffer attrition at 2 players per season. Yours has changed substantially more than that.

 

[Munich]

Lol, do go on, because 2 draft picks out of hundreds doesn't actually qualify as in depth analysis. Especially when you are comparing it with...nothing.

OK:

Wojcinski
Corey
Chapman
Ling
Enright
Hunt
Rooke
Kelly
Mackie
Bartel
Lonergan
Byrnes
Egan
Varcoe
Stokes
Taylor
Mumford
Menzel
Duncan
C Guthrie
Blitz

Bolded are the premiership players.

I'm sure I'm missing some as well.

Good lord when you write it out it really does show how much of a magician S Wells is!

If clubs want to be jealous of something they should be jelly of him. Bow down all.

 

[Munich]

Isaac Smith, Selwood, Touhy, Hawkins, Rohan are no longer on your list from that team.

Cats supporters queuing 10 deep on the rebuild thread to tell us Duncan, C Guthrie, Stanley, Parfitt, Bews are no longer in your best team. And Blicavs, Dangerfield are no longer as influential.

On average flag teams suffer attrition at 2 players per season. Yours has changed substantially more than that.

Yet we still made a prelim without the bulk of them, only last year.

I'd be worried as well if I were you.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

OK:

Wojcinski
Corey
Chapman
Ling
Enright
Hunt
Rooke
Kelly
Mackie
Bartel
Lonergan
Byrnes
Egan
Varcoe
Stokes
Taylor
Mumford
Menzel
Duncan
C Guthrie
Blitz

Bolded are the premiership players.

I'm sure I'm missing some as well.

No disrespect, but it is meaningless without a comprehensive list & comparison to other clubs over the same period.

I did some comprehensive analysis a few years ago. It showed Geelong's drafting was pretty good, but not necessarily better than a few other clubs.

 

[peetoo]

If some of these opposition posters actually stopped and considered how ludicrous their accusations are that Geelong FC and only Geelong FC might be engaging in dodgy TP player deals. Until I see evidence of anything untoward occurring at Geelong FC and not elsewhere, then those posters can STFU. And that includes Richmond Flats. Instead of saying, "I suggest start your research (with Villawood)" how about providing compelling evidence instead of muckraking.

If there’s nothing to see, move on

If something is there, and the auditor is personally involved as a former employee?

What do you think will happen?

 

[Philhawk]

If some of these opposition posters actually stopped and considered how ludicrous their accusations are that Geelong FC and only Geelong FC might be engaging in dodgy TP player deals. Until I see evidence of anything untoward occurring at Geelong FC and not elsewhere, then those posters can STFU. And that includes Richmond Flats. Instead of saying, "I suggest start your research (with Villawood)" how about providing compelling evidence instead of muckraking.

Since when does the burden of proof require that it’s only illegal if “we aren’t the only ones doing it”?

 

[Munich]

No disrespect, but it is meaningless without a comprehensive list & comparison to other clubs over the same period.

I did some comprehensive analysis a few years ago. It showed Geelong's drafting was pretty good, but not necessarily better than a few other clubs.

My entire reason in bringing it up was to show we've done very well in drafting players, plus father sons, to combat this cheating free houses nonsense as the reason for our success.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You seeing it yet RPCB
Just one giant cats pisstake this has turned into.

Because in reality nothing even remotely probative has surfaced that suggests impropriety.

 

[peetoo]

You seeing it yet RPCB
Just one giant cats pisstake this has turned into.

Because in reality nothing even remotely probative has surfaced that suggests impropriety.

Nor will it. But shit optics

 

[STPer18]

 

[RPCB]

You seeing it yet RPCB
Just one giant cats pisstake this has turned into.

Because in reality nothing even remotely probative has surfaced that suggests impropriety.

Who’s stalking who now?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Isaac Smith, Selwood, Touhy, Hawkins, Rohan are no longer on your list from that team.

Cats supporters queuing 10 deep on the rebuild thread to tell us Duncan, C Guthrie, Stanley, Parfitt, Bews are no longer in your best team. And Blicavs, Dangerfield are no longer as influential.

On average flag teams suffer attrition at 2 players per season. Yours has changed substantially more than that.

Maybe ours is above average then?

 

[Sttew]

Since when does the burden of proof require that it’s only illegal if “we aren’t the only ones doing it”?

Who gives a shit about burdens of proof. This isn't a court of law; its Big Footy.

 

[Sttew]

If there’s nothing to see, move on

If something is there, and the auditor is personally involved as a former employee?

What do you think will happen?

If the AFL is stupid enough to appoint someone with ties to Geelong to conduct the audit....

Got to remember too, according to Caroline Wilson, this isn't an "investigation" but an "audit". The only difference between the two is that an audit is broad and an investigation is specific. So unless there is a major glaring smoking gun, this will go no where

 

[Sttew]

My entire reason in bringing it up was to show we've done very well in drafting players, plus father sons, to combat this cheating free houses nonsense as the reason for our success.

And the Cats have never tanked to get priority and top 5 draft picks, unlike so many clubs including last years' wooden spooners

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Yet we still made a prelim without the bulk of them, only last year.

I'd be worried as well if I were you.

You were beaten by an interstate team on a ground you play home games on to be eliminated.

So, slightly concerned rather than genuinely worried. I would hate for you guys to have to live with the stain of your club cheating its way to a 5th cheat flag this century.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

If the AFL is stupid enough to appoint someone with ties to Geelong to conduct the audit....

Got to remember too, according to Caroline Wilson, this isn't an "investigation" but an "audit". The only difference between the two is that an audit is broad and an investigation is specific. So unless there is a major glaring smoking gun, this will go no where

The other 17 clubs know what the smoking gun is.

They are trying to recruit players from other clubs all the time. With the players from 17 other clubs it is possible to recruit players who consistently get a game with those clubs. With 1 club, it is impossible. So they are justifiably suspicious.

 

[Philhawk]

Who gives a shit about burdens of proof. This isn't a court of law; its Big Footy.

So you’re annoyed at the suggestion Geelong are rorting, because you think others do it - and don’t have an issue with the illegalities of it all generally?

Got it.