Geelong rorting the system

[STPer18]

Notice how its always MCG tenant fanbases that piss and moan about this stuff while everyone else stays silent?

The insecurities are off the chart.
Little old Geelong stirring up the rusted on "Big 4" fanbases because someone else dare cut into their entitled piece of the pie that they've hogged forever.

Those clubs only held the VFL/AFL hostage with talent zoning and father/son bullshit for eons...when one of the "other Vic clubs" rises through the ranks to be successful they will point fingers and do anything they can to deny healthy competition.

I mean just look at this whinge for example

Tigers fans constantly invading Cats threads to sook.

Pies never playing at Kardinia

Imagine just for a second that ANY other professional team sports competition around the World didn't make the biggest clubs travel any and everywhere to play. How pissweak is that! If you want to be the best you should want to win anywhere at any time. And lets not point the finger too much on salary caps, especially when we know every single team in the comp is doing what they can to win.

It is a business first

Interstate supporters hate us because #VICBIAS
Small Melbourne clubs hate us because they think we're a big Vic club now and we have our own home ground while they sold out
Big Melbourne clubs hate us because a bumpkin club routinely outperforms them and we have our own home ground while they sold out

 

[Sttew]

its not an easy going country town. Its a shithole

And when were you last there?
It wouldn’t have been to see your team play football

 

[Mr Meow]

You got huge on the peptides before anyone knew what was going and got a bit of a dynasty going. Got rules changed to make it easier for you to compete. You are now in the boutique ground cycle of inflated ladder position and then found out finals.

Found out in finals? The years we've finished 3rd or 4th we've generally been knocked out in prelims as you would expect. One year we made a GF from those positions.

A couple of seasons we finished top 4 and lost QFs to MCG tenants. That's just called playing an away final as the home team.

 

[Sttew]

Given Geelong's strategy of not wanting to bottom out, they probably need to target more ready made players than drafting kids.

They've got some big fish along the way like Jeremy Cameron (which the cats paid a high price for) and Dangerfield.

They've also had a few average players that were unwanted but came to be serviceable, like Menegola, Rohan, Isaac Smith and Jared Rivers.

But where they really rorted the system was getting Crameri, Blease, Henderson, Stephenson, Higgins, Dahlhaus.


So yeah, they get some A graders. But geez they get all the other letters as well.

Those who complain are jealous and envious of how the team is managed.

You would never see Geelong have to offload stars a la Collingwood because of cap pressure, because the Cats don’t get into that position in the first place. Dangerfield could have gone to another club on double what Geelong was offering. Isaac Smith was offered a superior contract by Melbourne.

As Joel Selwood said you don’t choose Geelong for the money. And that’s what whiners in this thread can’t understand. “If it’s not money then there must be underhanded land deals!” No, it’s the culture. It’s something new players like Tyson Stengle noticed when they first joined the Cats. The club doesn’t run your life 24/7, and they treat you like adults not kids.

 

[blaisee]

Those who complain are jealous and envious of how the team is managed.

You would never see Geelong have to offload stars a la Collingwood because of cap pressure, because the Cats don’t get into that position in the first place. Dangerfield could have gone to another club on double what Geelong was offering. Isaac Smith was offered a superior contract by Melbourne.

As Joel Selwood said you don’t choose Geelong for the money. And that’s what whiners in this thread can’t understand. “If it’s not money then there must be underhanded land deals!” No, it’s the culture. It’s something new players like Tyson Stengle noticed when they first joined the Cats. The club doesn’t run your life 24/7, and they treat you like adults not kids.

Lol

It was not long ago that the asterixes could not attract b grade talent down to Geelong

Now all of a sudden there are land deals and bingo everyone is taking unders

You are spot on regarding the culture , a culture of rorting the system through underhand out of the salary cap payments for coaches players from sponsors

Evidence is clear

 

[Mr Meow]

Lol

It was not long ago that the asterixes could not attract b grade talent down to Geelong

Now all of a sudden there are land deals and bingo everyone is taking unders

You are spot on regarding the culture , a culture of rorting the system through underhand out of the salary cap payments for coaches players from sponsors

Evidence is clear

Actually Geelong turned things around to the tune of 3 premierships this century before they attracted ready made high end talent or became a destination club. Ottens came in but others such as Colbert left.

Free Agency came at the right time, with Geelong proven to be a successfully run football club that would not be bottoming out.

That's when a stack of decent (sometimes awful) mature players - with the occasional gun - were traded in or acquired via free agency. Good experiences of the first ones, even without premierships, opened the eyes of the others.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Lol

It was not long ago that the asterixes could not attract b grade talent down to Geelong

Now all of a sudden there are land deals and bingo everyone is taking unders

You are spot on regarding the culture , a culture of rorting the system through underhand out of the salary cap payments for coaches players from sponsors

Evidence is clear

It's pretty funny isn't it?
We are not only meant to believe sentinent players with time limited careers are taking massive unders to play for the Cats, we're meant to believe their agents, whose entire business model relies on maximising client returns from which they get their cut, will just push them in the direction of low paying Geelong for the sheer joy of seeing that happy smile on a players face every morning.
And Frank Costa was ruthless enough and smart enough to fight off the Calabrian mafia, yet apparently Frank couldn't and ethically wouldn't design a legacy system to pay players off the books that would escape the detection of the wokerati at AFL House? I mean really?

 

[Slime Roy]

Yeah,
it's widely known that Free Range Footballers are far happier & more productive than the Caged variety.

 

[PhatBoy]

You got huge on the peptides before anyone knew what was going and got a bit of a dynasty going. Got rules changed to make it easier for you to compete. You are now in the boutique ground cycle of inflated ladder position and then found out finals.

Yeah we cart it around with us and manage to have a better travelling record than all other teams in the comp by doing that. That’s how we inflate our home and away record. By bringing KP with us to home and away games.

 

[PhatBoy]

Lol

It was not long ago that the asterixes could not attract b grade talent down to Geelong

Now all of a sudden there are land deals and bingo everyone is taking unders

You are spot on regarding the culture , a culture of rorting the system through underhand out of the salary cap payments for coaches players from sponsors

Evidence is clear

Still haven’t mastered that word, have you.

What’s an Asterix, if it isn’t a French comic book?

 

[Del80659]

they may as well give up the act considering footy is slowly dying.. or do they actually think their players are natural?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Wow. Not embarrassed enough to avoid coming back here.
Would have thought the woefully low posting standards would have done that.

 

[Mr Meow]

they may as well give up the act considering footy is slowly dying.. or do they actually think their players are natural?

You are a treasure.

Please never let your saltiness fade.

 

[FootyLad0]

they may as well give up the act considering footy is slowly dying.. or do they actually think their players are natural?

Wow how much did Geelong hurt you…

Oh that’s right…record breaking and history making levels. 119 reasons why LOL

 

[Del80659]

Wow how much did Geelong hurt you…

Oh that’s right…record breaking and history making levels. 119 reasons why LOL

a sports team losing a match because the other team was on PEDs doesn't "hurt" me, it confuses me how you could enjoy it when it's artificial, kind of like Brisbane juicing at half time all those years, but a step up

 

[Reg Grundy35]

And when were you last there?
It wouldn’t have been to see your team play football

i live 45 minutes from it. Too close. As if Geelong would ever agree to play Collingwood at that dump. They love the MCG coin too much. Yet you clowns always trot it out as if youre victims

 

[FootyLad0]

i live 45 minutes from it. Too close. As if Geelong would ever agree to play Collingwood at that dump. They love the MCG coin too much. Yet you clowns always trot it out as if youre victims

Geelong make more money playing games at Kardinia than they do the MCG.
There’s an entire financial report breaking it down.

Geelong is forced to play a minimum number of “Home Games” at the G, the same reason Collingwood is forced to play a minimum number of games at Marvel. It’s a contractual agreement in place by the AFL to fill a certain quota for games at the G and Marvel every year. Because teams are moving their Home games to places like Tassie and now Norf to WA, other Vic clubs are forced to pick up the slack.

Geelong has and always will request ALL Home games be played at Kardinia. Because Geelong are again, FORCED not choosing to play Home games at the G, they are required to get at least 80k there to breakeven….not even make money just breakeven so of course they are going to pick the clubs with the highest membership bases and attendances. I mean, derrrr. AFL clubs are a business. They aren’t going to choose to lose money.

If it was up to Geelong, they’d play no Home games at the G at all. Why would they push so heavily to get more games at Kardinia? Could it be that crazy theory that the Geelong Cats playing in Geelong benefits Geelong because….get this! They are the Geelong Cats?!?

I can’t believe this has to be explained over and over and over.

It’s really not that hard.

 

[PhatBoy]

i live 45 minutes from it. Too close. As if Geelong would ever agree to play Collingwood at that dump. They love the MCG coin too much. Yet you clowns always trot it out as if youre victims

How do people still need this explained to them

 

[PhatBoy]

a sports team losing a match because the other team was on PEDs doesn't "hurt" me, it confuses me how you could enjoy it when it's artificial, kind of like Brisbane juicing at half time all those years, but a step up

So you think one of the richest and most powerful teams in the competition was taken down to the point where the club was removed from competing for a season and still hasn’t even gone close to recovering but Geelong just got ignored.

 

[FootyLad0]

How do people still need this explained to them

It’s becoming annoying having to refute the lies soo many times.
Think I might drive my head through a wall

 

[FootyLad0]

So you think one of the richest and most powerful teams in the competition was taken down to the point where the club was removed from competing for a season and still hasn’t even gone close to recovering but Geelong just got ignored.

Pains them that the AFL cleared Geelong almost immediately.

AFL cleared us over Dank links: Geelong

Geelong says a drug ordered from a company associated with Stephen Dank was legal and he never had a role at the club.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[Del80659]

"the AFL cleared Geelong"

 

[yeahmate]

the AFL also cleared Essendon

 

[PhatBoy]

I love the evidence for this.
‘We think you cheated because you were stronger than us.’

 

[Sttew]

I can’t believe this has to be explained over and over and over.

It’s really not that hard.

Oh it is very hard for some. As you say, the same drongos keep trotting out the same false argument. It's tiresome, but debunks the other theory that GFC is a small minnow club. How many minnow clubs have dedicated threads about fictitious rorting, etc?