Geelong rorting the system

[captain bloodsport]

Agreed, which is why 2007, 2009, 2011 and 2022 were outstanding Geelong teams while some other contending sides were just good ones.

On your last point, sure it's an advantage in H&A - similar to what non Vic sides get - but they can at least earn genuine home ground QF/PFs as well. Setting them up (mostly) for being found out on grand final day at the G.

If the Afl was serious about equalisation they would let Geelong play finals at gmhba.

 

[Mr Meow]

If the Afl was serious about equalisation they would let Geelong play finals at gmhba.

Correct. I understand and accept the non-equalisation reasons it doesn't happen though. I only bring it up when people talk about how easy Geelong have it. There's two sides to the coin.

 

[Sttew]

It's not even symmetrical, it's a cheat ground with weird dimensions that should have never been allowed to be turned into a 40K stadium without fixing it up along the way.

Ever been to the ground?

 

[E Shed]

If the Afl was serious about equalisation they would let Geelong play finals at gmhba.

They tried it but they lost anyway.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Seriously Elixuh you need to either finally improve your posting standard or vacate the main board.
We shouldn't all need to lose brain cells reading your gibberish.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It's not even symmetrical, it's a cheat ground with weird dimensions that should have never been allowed to be turned into a 40K stadium without fixing it up along the way.

Been the same shape and size many decades before your club was born in a test tube.
Somehow I think your grandad's generation didn't whinge about cheat grounds etc.

A uniquely Bigfooty idiocy.

 

[Elixuh]

Seriously Elixuh you need to either finally improve your posting standard or vacate the main board.
We shouldn't all need to lose brain cells reading your gibberish.

You were advocating for violence against Hawthorn players last week old boy. The standard is pretty low.

 

[Spearman]

Where’s the smoke? People on a forum saying that there’s smoke?

How compelling

I think we found the smoke they're smelling....

Spoiler: NSFW

 

[Purple Suit]

Been the same shape and size many decades before your club was born in a test tube.
Somehow I think your grandad's generation didn't whinge about cheat grounds etc.

A uniquely Bigfooty idiocy.

Geelong started playing there in 1941, Fremantle had already won 10 flags at that stage but had split into South and East Fremantle in the early 1900’s to give everyone else a chance. Easts had won another 18 flags by 1941.

We’ve got a rich history, seems like the people around your club are still desperately trying to get yours included in the vfl stats that make up the “AFL”.

 

[Mr Meow]

Geelong started playing there in 1941, Fremantle had already won 10 flags at that stage but had split into South and East Fremantle in the early 1900’s to give everyone else a chance. Easts had won another 18 flags by 1941.

We’ve got a rich history, seems like the people around your club are still desperately trying to get yours included in the vfl stats that make up the “AFL”.

AFL focus is fine. 4 flags to 0, despite Fremantle having many home finals compared to just 1 for Geelong.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Geelong started playing there in 1941, Fremantle had already won 10 flags at that stage but had split into South and East Fremantle in the early 1900’s to give everyone else a chance. Easts had won another 18 flags by 1941.

We’ve got a rich history, seems like the people around your club are still desperately trying to get yours included in the vfl stats that make up the “AFL”.

Nice deflection. WAFL flags have never mattered in this comp. VFL flags always have.

The lack of rebuttal is noted though. Only idiots on this site complain about the ground shape, never was an issue when we were shit. Funny that.

 

[FootyLad0]

Geelong started playing there in 1941, Fremantle had already won 10 flags at that stage but had split into South and East Fremantle in the early 1900’s to give everyone else a chance. Easts had won another 18 flags by 1941.

We’ve got a rich history, seems like the people around your club are still desperately trying to get yours included in the vfl stats that make up the “AFL”.

I’ve always hated included anything outside AFL era personally but that’s just me.

So 4 Flags to 0. In a competition with constant prop ups for shit teams to use incentives to suck so they can be successful.
Cats haven’t done that for basically 2 decades which is two thirds of your existence in the AFL.
In fact, Geelong has never finished lower than 12th….ever.

What are we even doing debating here.
It’s comparing a relevant big club and a minnow club set up to fail by the WA governing body of footy.
Both are truths, I’m sure many on Freo board would agree.

 

[Purple Suit]

I’ve always hated included anything outside AFL era personally but that’s just me.

So 4 Flags to 0. In a competition with constant prop ups for shit teams to use incentives to suck so they can be successful.
Cats haven’t done that for basically 2 decades which is two thirds of your existence in the AFL.
In fact, Geelong has never finished lower than 12th….ever.

What are we even doing debating here.
It’s comparing a relevant big club and a minnow club set up to fail by the WA governing body of footy.
Both are truths, I’m sure many on Freo board would agree.

Minnow? We have won a final at your misshaped home ground and you haven’t even done that yet.

 

[Mr Meow]

Minnow? We have won a final at your misshaped home ground and you haven’t even done that yet.

Where do you keep the trophy for that?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

The freo bashing is a little unwarranted here I think.

The issue was the comment purely on our ground shape, which is a BF centric idiocy for some reason. Probably most clubs losing there frequently.

 

[FootyLad0]

Minnow? We have won a final at your misshaped home ground and you haven’t even done that yet.

Yes, minnow. You’re not seriously going to argue against that are you?
Freo is a smaller club, 13th biggest membership numbers, only higher than GC, GWS (who are being propped up by the League itself) and the 3 minnow Melbourne clubs in Doggies, Norf and Saints. Lower than teams like Brisbane who aren’t even in a footy state and Port who are heading back to tarp territory.

Freo are a club that the WA footy commission didn’t want, the AFL didn’t want and both set them up to fail.
It’s actually disgusting how they were treated on entering the League, no nepo baby treatment like a certain other couple expansion clubs.

BUT LETS GET BACK ON TRACK TALKING ABOUT OVALS AND RORTS.
Playing Finals at a certain ground has no standing on if a club is a minnow or not because Finals games are determined by the League not the clubs themselves.
Geelong do nothing more or less than any other club does when it comes to recruiting players. Stats even show how players were drafted and recruited, the Dogs fans were whinging about Cotton On and Smith when they have recruited MORE players over time from other clubs than the Cats have, Cats have Successfully drafted more best 22 level rookie draft and Cat B players than any other team.

That’s a skill issue, not a “rort” issue.

 

[Purple Suit]

Yes, minnow. You’re not seriously going to argue against that are you?
Freo is a smaller club, 13th biggest membership numbers, only higher than GC, GWS (who are being propped up by the League itself) and the 3 minnow Melbourne clubs in Doggies, Norf and Saints. Lower than teams like Brisbane who aren’t even in a footy state and Port who are heading back to tarp territory.

Freo are a club that the WA footy commission didn’t want, the AFL didn’t want and both set them up to fail.
It’s actually disgusting how they were treated on entering the League, no nepo baby treatment like a certain other couple expansion clubs.

BUT LETS GET BACK ON TRACK TALKING ABOUT OVALS AND RORTS.
Playing Finals at a certain ground has no standing on if a club is a minnow or not because Finals games are determined by the League not the clubs themselves.
Geelong do nothing more or less than any other club does when it comes to recruiting players. Stats even show how players were drafted and recruited, the Dogs fans were whinging about Cotton On and Smith when they have recruited MORE players over time from other clubs than the Cats have, Cats have Successfully drafted more best 22 level rookie draft and Cat B players than any other team.

That’s a skill issue, not a “rort” issue.

Membership numbers? You mean the new AFL stat that can be made up with pets, free tickets and mailing lists?

We make more per membership than any other team as we don’t bother with the fake stuff. We have a higher home attendance than Geelong and get basically the same AFL distribution as Geelong. We’re no more a minnow than you.

 

[Mr Meow]

Membership numbers? You mean the new AFL stat that can be made up with pets, free tickets and mailing lists?

We make more per membership than any other team as we don’t bother with the fake stuff. We have a high we home attendance than Geelong and get basically the same AFL distribution as Geelong. We’re no more a minnow than you.

Powerhouse vs running joke.

 

[Freshwater]

The people posting that this club or that club are ‘minnows’ are just moronic. Who cares whether your club is big, medium or smaller, or a micro start up? It means stuff all, and says more about the poster’s inferiority complex. We all love and defend our clubs. Some even defend them when they’re cheating the system.

 

[Mr Meow]

The people posting that this club or that club are ‘minnows’ are just moronic. Who cares whether your club is big, medium or smaller, or a micro start up? It means stuff all, and says more about the poster’s inferiority complex. We all love and defend our clubs. Some even defend them when they’re cheating the system.

Some even cry about other clubs being successful.

 

[sleep]

Membership numbers? You mean the new AFL stat that can be made up with pets, free tickets and mailing lists?

We make more per membership than any other team as we don’t bother with the fake stuff. We have a high we home attendance than Geelong and get basically the same AFL distribution as Geelong. We’re no more a minnow than you.

Ok Minnow - How's your slow-feed bowl going.

https://membership.fremantlefc.com.au/packages?refsrc=referral&refmed=wwwgooglecom&refcam=wwwgooglecom

 

[PhatBoy]

Membership numbers? You mean the new AFL stat that can be made up with pets, free tickets and mailing lists?

We make more per membership than any other team as we don’t bother with the fake stuff. We have a high we home attendance than Geelong and get basically the same AFL distribution as Geelong. We’re no more a minnow than you.

You are on the field. Which is, essentially, where it stems from.

 

[Seeds]

It's not even symmetrical, it's a cheat ground with weird dimensions that should have never been allowed to be turned into a 40K stadium without fixing it up along the way.

Oh please. Other grounds arent perfectly symetrical either. A couple of metres short on one side changes nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Its positives far far outweigh its negatives in terms of suiting afl football compared to other grounds.

Narrow wings and long length is what we need for afl to limit all the kicking sideways, make it harder for teams to flood defences and make it harder for teams to deny scoring by booting it to packs on far off wings.

Im not saying kardinia park is plato's perfect afl oval. But its much closer then the others. Its the afl oval that is closest to the true essential form of an afl oval. I think afl fields should be another 25 metres longer and no wider then kardinia park.

 

[Sttew]

Oh please. Other grounds arent perfectly symetrical either. A couple of metres short on one side changes nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Its positives far far outweigh its negatives in terms of suiting afl football compared to other grounds.

Narrow wings and long length is what we need for afl to limit all the kicking sideways, make it harder for teams to flood defences and make it harder for teams to deny scoring by booting it to packs on far off wings.

Im not saying kardinia park is plato's perfect afl oval. But its much closer then the others. Its the afl oval that is closest to the true essential form of an afl oval. I think afl fields should be another 25 metres longer and no wider then kardinia park.

It's the perfect ground for corridor football, which is the best brand of football

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Cheat ground…. Because…. Because one team what, gets the ball and the ground changes shape while they have the ball and then changes again when they don’t?

You’re saying that footballers who get paid between $150,000-$1.4 million a year to kick a ball are thwarted because of a boundary line and can’t navigate their way around a stadium and find teammates in similar attire, and dispossess opponents in contrasting attire, because of where the boundary is.

It’s certainly an interesting theory*


*excuse

It's an odd shaped ground that would be illegal if there was any rules about grounds.
Also , your players train on it 6 days a week, no other Victorian club gets that advantage.
It's a government funded home ground advantage rort.
Having straight boundary lines would be foreign to every footballer in the country.