Geelong vs pies final should not be at the mcg.

[LoungeLizard]

Externally Geelong officials aren't going to publicly complain about the unfairness of forcing the team that finished at the top of the table to play in what is essentially at the opponent's home ground as it could come across as having a defeatist attitude and demoralise the playing group (i.e. have no faith they can beat Collingwood) before the ball has been bounced. Internally, like the average supporter, I don't think they're over joyed about giving the Magpies this much of an advantage when they don't deserve it.

And as I said previously it's not like it's going to change anytime soon with 9 Victorian clubs in Melbourne all in full agreement, against one rural club, that they don't want to come down and play at Kardinia Park for a final in September, that suits those 9 Melbourne clubs just fine.

As as supporter I'm not under any constraints to express my displeasure at this joke of 'rule' that makes no sense nor is it fair, whereas as someone that works at the club would have to take other factors into consideration. And that means that realistically this situation won't be changing this month or any time soon so there's no benefit in publicly complaining about it.

Really, yet Scott does it.

Or maybe you are wrong.

 

[doppleganger]

The principle of it is still the same though.
The most common argument against Geelong hosting finals is the number of fans that would miss out on tickets.

And the fact that the AFL has contract in place with the MCG to play Victorian finals at the G.

Sydney are playing the game at the venue they select even though there is a venue, with a greater capacity, in the same city; a venue which has been used to host AFL finals in the past.

Stop pedalling this lie.

The AFL determines where finals are played, clubs have no say in it.

Clubs give a preference to time slot, but even then that is often ignored and the AFL work with broadcaster to confirm timeslots.

 

[doppleganger]

Never said it was Collingwood's fault alone that Melbourne clubs in cahoots with the league admin are fine in screwing Geelong on this matter. Collingwood once upon a time had the right to host games at Victoria Park prior to Docklands being built but as far as I'm aware Collingwood gleefully gave up the rights to host games at Vic Park because it benefited Collingwood greatly to use the MCG as a home ground instead because of the much bigger capacity and therefore greater financial rewards. Obviously that is simply not the case with Geelong that is still very much interested in hosting games at Kardinia Park due to it obviously being a country club not a Melbourne one.

The AFL and State Govt didnt pay to upgrade VicPark, so the Pies were forced from home ground.

But yes, Eddie did well to get a good stadium deal that also meant the MCG gave up the right to always host one PF....non-vic clubs should be thanking Collingwood.

You're grasping at straws here, the comparison you're trying to make just isn't there particularly when Collingwood play so many games at the MCG, compared to most other clubs besides Richmond and Melbourne, that it has essentially become an indisputable advantage over the last 20 years or so against other AFL clubs including the majority of Melbourne clubs such the Dogs, Saints, Hawthorn, Essendon, etc.. that don't have the same access to the MCG that the Magpies do.

Go check our record at the G v away from the G...in the 2010s decade we had a better record in games away from the G.

And in GFs, Pies are 0-5 since we became an MCG tenant.

The G is a neutral ground, too many clubs play there for it to advantage any individual team.

 

[Perth Cat 11]

And the fact that the AFL has contract in place with the MCG to play Victorian finals at the G.

Stop pedalling this lie.

The AFL determines where finals are played, clubs have no say in it.

Clubs give a preference to time slot, but even then that is often ignored and the AFL work with broadcaster to confirm timeslots.

Sorry if the facts are disrupting your argument.

 

[doppleganger]

Sorry if the facts are disrupting your argument.

The facts are that the league determines where finals are played.

Nothing to do with the clubs.

You think Sydney chose to play the Giants at Stadium Australia when were minor premier in 2016?

The entire premise of your argument 'clubs pick where finals are played' is just flat out wrong.

 

[Perth Cat 11]

And the fact that the AFL has contract in place with the MCG to play Victorian finals at the G.

Stop pedalling this lie.

The AFL determines where finals are played, clubs have no say in it.

Clubs give a preference to time slot, but even then that is often ignored and the AFL work with broadcaster to confirm timeslots.

The fact is that no such contract exists for finals played in Victoria- except for the grand final.

 

[Perth Cat 11]

The facts are that the league determines where finals are played.

Nothing to do with the clubs.

You think Sydney chose to play the Giants at Stadium Australia when were minor premier in 2016?

The entire premise of your argument 'clubs pick where finals are played' is just flat out wrong.

You don’t do much research before posting do you?

 

[Hot_Pies_2019]

Really, yet Scott does it.

Or maybe you are wrong.

Scott has merely developed this complex over years of finals failures, aways a reason, aways an excuse. You supporters just eat it up for a few weeks, beat your chests, piss and moan before ultimately shifting your attention to sacking the coach once your season falls over. Tell you what, I’ll even start the thread next week, see if we can hit 100 pages overnight.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Scott has merely developed this complex over years of finals failures, aways a reason, aways an excuse. You supporters just eat it up for a few weeks, beat your chests, piss and moan before ultimately shifting your attention to sacking the coach once your season falls over. Tell you what, I’ll even start the thread next week, see if we can hit 100 pages overnight.

I follow Collingwood mate.

 

[SuperVolley11]

The AFL and State Govt didnt pay to upgrade VicPark, so the Pies were forced from home ground.

But yes, Eddie did well to get a good stadium deal that also meant the MCG gave up the right to always host one PF....non-vic clubs should be thanking Collingwood.

Go check our record at the G v away from the G...in the 2010s decade we had a better record in games away from the G.

And in GFs, Pies are 0-5 since we became an MCG tenant.

The G is a neutral ground, too many clubs play there for it to advantage any individual team.

2010?

 

[maskmcgee]

The fact is that no such contract exists for finals played in Victoria

No, every final in Victoria is contractually required to be played at the MCG, unless there are 4 games in Melbourne in week 1, and even then, the AFL has said they will play a Sunday final in that scenario, so it will never happen.

 

[SuperVolley11]

No, every final in Victoria is contractually required to be played at the MCG, unless there are 4 games in Melbourne in week 1, and even then, the AFL has said they will play a Sunday final in that scenario, so it will never happen.

Source?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

2010?

We still can't believe it

 

[Perth Cat 11]

No, every final in Victoria is contractually required to be played at the MCG, unless there are 4 games in Melbourne in week 1, and even then, the AFL has said they will play a Sunday final in that scenario, so it will never happen.

I’m sorry, this is just wrong. The contract applies to the GF.

 

[SuperVolley11]

I’m sorry, this is just wrong. The contract applies to the GF.

I thought it was X amount of prelims over so many years.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

I thought it was X amount of prelims over so many years.

Think all that got torn up, just the GF now

Til 2059

 

[Perth Cat 11]

Think all that got torn up, just the GF now

Til 2059

Yep plus 10 out of the top 12 home and away fixtures.

 

[00VicWard001]

I follow Collingwood mate.

This reminds me of when Howe knocked over Daicos on Saturday.

 

[doppleganger]

2010?

We didnt win the 2010 GF.

Had to play a replay.

Pies are 0 from 5 in GFs, and had a better record away from the G then at it.

Yet people think it gives us a home ground advantage? It is a neutral ground.

 

[doppleganger]

I’m sorry, this is just wrong. The contract applies to the GF.

Nope.

You again are wrong.

The current MCG contract requires that at least ten finals matches (plus all Grand Finals) be played at the MCG during every rolling five-year period.

Venue contracts for finals matches are held by the AFL and are not related to the clubs' home venue contracts; consequently, the home team is not necessarily entitled to play at its usual home venue if the AFL's finals contracts are held with a different venue in its state.

 

[doppleganger]

I thought it was X amount of prelims over so many years.

Not prelims.

10 finals at the G over 5 years, plus GFs is the contract.

Pies deal, and MCG able to host big soccer games in middle of winter, is what let the MCG give up PFs

 

[Perth Cat 11]

Nope.

You again are wrong.

The current MCG contract requires that at least ten finals matches (plus all Grand Finals) be played at the MCG during every rolling five-year period.

Venue contracts for finals matches are held by the AFL and are not related to the clubs' home venue contracts; consequently, the home team is not necessarily entitled to play at its usual home venue if the AFL's finals contracts are held with a different venue in its state.

Well done for copying and pasting from the out of date Wiki page.

 

[blue harvest]

The principle of it is still the same though.
The most common argument against Geelong hosting finals is the number of fans that would miss out on tickets. Sydney are playing the game at the venue they select even though there is a venue, with a greater capacity, in the same city; a venue which has been used to host AFL finals in the past.

AFL no longer have a contract with that venue for finals, they signed a more lucrative contract with SCG some years ago.

 

[Hot_Pies_2019]

I follow Collingwood mate.

Yea my bad. Replied to the wrong spud, I’m sure you get my drift.

Anyway, anyone else had enough of this topic for another year?

Thank **** I don’t support a team followed by such needy, self entitled cretins.

 

[blue harvest]

I’m sorry, this is just wrong. The contract applies to the GF.

Last contract I saw says all Vic prelims are at the G, and a set amount of finals over 5 years.