Geelong vs pies final should not be at the mcg.

[doppleganger]

Played a game there this season. Do better.

Giants home game with just 25k at the game in rd1.

Have the AFL put a contract in place to reserve stadium for potential finals?

 

[Perth Cat 11]

This isn't the slam dunk you think it is.

Sydney have played plenty of finals at Stadium Australia. One The reason they stopped was because crowds stop going. They get more fans at SCG than they do at that shithole despite the lower capacity.

The Swans vs Pies game was a sellout a few weeks ago; the 2012 Swans vs Pies Prelim final at Stadium Australia got 57k; the 2006 Swans vs Freo Prelim final, also at Stadium Australia got 61k… (in case you are not aware, the current capacity of the SCG is 48k)

So I ask you, why is ok to cite locking crowds out as a reason for Geelong not being able to host finals but it is acceptable for Sydney?

 

[Whiskers]

I love playing games at the G. Although it’s been costly lately, there is nothing better than beating a team on their home ground when they don’t deserve to be there.
Watching them storm out of their ‘home’ complaining about the umpires is rather humerous I must say.

 

[Hot_Pies_2019]

50 Pages!

 

[FRUMPY]

Funny you should mention that, Chris Scott suggested that the GF be rotated between the major venues.

so he doesnt advocate finals should be at their home ground? that is funny and contrary to what you want....

on a side note, which is your normal account as i presume this is your account for when you are suspended....joined 2016, 70 odd posts of which half are in this thread.....

 

[Perth Cat 11]

so he doesnt advocate finals should be at their home ground? that is funny and contrary to what you want....

on a side note, which is your normal account as i presume this is your account for when you are suspended....joined 2016, 70 odd posts of which half are in this thread.....

He said it is a major advantage for the MCG clubs to be able to play the GF at the MCG.

This is my one and only account.

 

[FRUMPY]

He said it is a major advantage for the MCG clubs to be able to play the GF at the MCG.

This is my one and only account.

yet doesnt want the grand final to be at that clubs home ground?

 

[Perth Cat 11]

yet doesnt want the grand final to be at that clubs home ground?

It was in the same press conference where he said Geelong ask for 11 home games at KP (not granted) and mentioned that most people accept that the GF is a neutral game.

 

[FRUMPY]

It was in the same press conference where he said Geelong ask for 11 home games at KP (not granted) and mentioned that most people accept that the GF is a neutral game.

So a Cats v Coll grand final at the MCG would be a neutral game but not the qualifying final?

seems like yourself and all of geelong dont know if you're arthur or matha.

Edited.

 

[Hoops]

The finals at the MCG for Vic clubs is what it is - unfair but I can't think of a viable alternative.

But anyone who thinks that it's neutral venue fo all vic clubs is just making shit up.

 

[Perth Cat 11]

So a Pies v Coll grand final at the MCG would be a neutral game but not the qualifying final?

seems like yourself and all of geelong dont know if you're arthur or matha.

I can explain it to you but I can’t understand it for you.

 

[FRUMPY]

I can explain it to you but I can’t understand it for you.

you havent explained it though - a geelong vs collingwood grand final would be a geelong home final as much as last weeks game was a geelong home final

 

[Perth Cat 11]

you havent explained it though - a geelong vs collingwood grand final would be a geelong home final as much as last weeks game was a geelong home final

Read the thread.

 

[FRUMPY]

Read the thread.

exactly, you cant explain it because people pick and choose which way they want things to go.

You want your home finals to be played at Geelong but the grand final at the MCG no matter who is playing. You are inconsistent and probably why nobody takes you seriously.....

 

[Perth Cat 11]

exactly, you cant explain it because people pick and choose which way they want things to go.

You want your home finals to be played at Geelong but the grand final at the MCG no matter who is playing. You are inconsistent and probably why nobody takes you seriously.....

No, this is not what I have said; please re-read.

 

[Perth Cat 11]

So a Pies v Coll grand final at the MCG would be a neutral game but not the qualifying final?

seems like yourself and all of geelong dont know if you're arthur or matha.

You understand that the "Pies" and "Coll" is actually the same team?

 

[FRUMPY]

You understand that the "Pies" and "Coll" is actually the same team?

Yeah thats a typo, my bad, i fixed it.

what have you been doing with your time between 2017 and 2022? i wonder which account you really are/were and what you are currently suspended for....

 

[NewMelbournian]

The Swans vs Pies game was a sellout a few weeks ago; the 2012 Swans vs Pies Prelim final at Stadium Australia got 57k; the 2006 Swans vs Freo Prelim final, also at Stadium Australia got 61k… (in case you are not aware, the current capacity of the SCG is 48k)

So I ask you, why is ok to cite locking crowds out as a reason for Geelong not being able to host finals but it is acceptable for Sydney?

It is not the same for two reasons. A) Sydney would not expect a 90k crowd at the bigger stadium. B) the smaller stadium in question is significantly bigger than the smaller stadium in Geelong's case.

We are talking locking out 50k+ compared to locking out 10k max. It is a world away.

 

[Underarm]

He said it is a major advantage for the MCG clubs to be able to play the GF at the MCG.

This is my one and only account.

And compared to most clubs Geelong is a MCG club.

 

[gouki88]

Pretty glad that game was in front of 90k+ at the G and not less than 1/3 of that number in Geelong

 

[Perth Cat 11]

exactly, you cant explain it because people pick and choose which way they want things to go.

You want your home finals to be played at Geelong but the grand final at the MCG no matter who is playing. You are inconsistent and probably why nobody takes you seriously.....

Yeah thats a typo, my bad, i fixed it.

what have you been doing with your time between 2017 and 2022? i wonder which account you really are/were and what you are currently suspended for....

Not that it is any of your business, or anything to do with the thread, I chose not to engage with Bigfooty for a while.

 

[Perth Cat 11]

It is not the same for two reasons. A) Sydney would not expect a 90k crowd at the bigger stadium. B) the smaller stadium in question is significantly bigger than the smaller stadium in Geelong's case.

We are talking locking out 50k+ compared to locking out 10k max. It is a world away.

The principle of it is still the same though.
The most common argument against Geelong hosting finals is the number of fans that would miss out on tickets. Sydney are playing the game at the venue they select even though there is a venue, with a greater capacity, in the same city; a venue which has been used to host AFL finals in the past.

 

[Perth Cat 11]

And compared to most clubs Geelong is a MCG club.

Geelong does not get to pick where they play finals…

 

[randyzany]

Not Collingwood's problem that finals venues have always been about the AFLs demand for more lucre.

You have followed poorly.

A WC v Port final, no guarantee will get anywhere near the 60k at the G that it would get at Optus.

Hence home State for early rounds enables the AFL to almost guarantee packed houses across the country.

Not Collingwood's problem that final games are determined by the AFL on a state basis.

Never said it was Collingwood's fault alone that Melbourne clubs in cahoots with the league admin are fine in screwing Geelong on this matter. Collingwood once upon a time had the right to host games at Victoria Park prior to Docklands being built but as far as I'm aware Collingwood gleefully gave up the rights to host games at Vic Park because it benefited Collingwood greatly to use the MCG as a home ground instead because of the much bigger capacity and therefore greater financial rewards. Obviously that is simply not the case with Geelong that is still very much interested in hosting games at Kardinia Park due to it obviously being a country club not a Melbourne one.

You're grasping at straws here, the comparison you're trying to make just isn't there particularly when Collingwood play so many games at the MCG, compared to most other clubs besides Richmond and Melbourne, that it has essentially become an indisputable advantage over the last 20 years or so against other AFL clubs including the majority of Melbourne clubs such the Dogs, Saints, Hawthorn, Essendon, etc.. that don't have the same access to the MCG that the Magpies do.

 

[randyzany]

Didn't you read what was said?

The club agrees they should be at the MCG.

Externally Geelong officials aren't going to publicly complain about the unfairness of forcing the team that finished at the top of the table to play in what is essentially at the opponent's home ground as it could come across as having a defeatist attitude and demoralise the playing group (i.e. have no faith they can beat Collingwood) before the ball has been bounced. Internally, like the average supporter, I don't think they're over joyed about giving the Magpies this much of an advantage when they don't deserve it.

And as I said previously it's not like it's going to change anytime soon with 9 Victorian clubs in Melbourne all in full agreement, against one rural club, that they don't want to come down and play at Kardinia Park for a final in September, that suits those 9 Melbourne clubs just fine.

As as supporter I'm not under any constraints to express my displeasure at this joke of 'rule' that makes no sense nor is it fair, whereas as someone that works at the club would have to take other factors into consideration. And that means that realistically this situation won't be changing this month or any time soon so there's no benefit in publicly complaining about it.