Geelong: why are they just not good enough?

[HaroLad]

I'm just here to congratulate the winner of West Coast v Collingwood on making the preliminary final.

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Gee, I'd be pretty embarrassed if I were you Golumless

 

[Golumless]

Gee, I'd be pretty embarrassed if I were you Golumless

More apathetic instead of embarrassed.

 

[Cash is King]

Now or Never for Geelong. They won’t get a better opportunity to make a GF.

Seeing a young Brisbane team in it just doesn’t seem right. It also doesn’t seem right seeing Port in one.

Geelong and Richmond the most consistent teams in the past 3-4 years so would be fitting.

 

[pulpdriver]

Now or Never for Geelong. They won’t get a better opportunity to make a GF.

Seeing a young Brisbane team in it just doesn’t seem right. It also doesn’t seem right seeing Port in one.

Geelong and Richmond the most consistent teams in the past 3-4 years so would be fitting.

Our overall list is definitely one of the youngest in the AFL but our best 22 is pretty much mid-table by average age.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

Now or Never for Geelong. They won’t get a better opportunity to make a GF.

Seeing a young Brisbane team in it just doesn’t seem right. It also doesn’t seem right seeing Port in one.

Geelong and Richmond the most consistent teams in the past 3-4 years so would be fitting.

The teams that finished 1st and 2nd don't deserve to make a GF? Get your hand off it you *******.

 

[Scotland]

Our overall list is definitely one of the youngest in the AFL but our best 22 is pretty much mid-table by average age.

Very similar age/experience profile to our 2006 and 2018 sides. You don't have to be like 2010s Hawthorn/Geelong to be a contender.

7 players aged 22-25 last week and the least experienced of them has played 62 games. Said it a couple of years ago when Brisbane were losing most weeks but not terrible that Andrews, Hipwood etc. being 50-100+ game players compared to 20 or 30 game players will make a huge difference. It has.

 

[anth_christian]

Where did West Coast and Collingwood finish on the ladder?

Exactly ! That’s why it was an upset!! An unexpected result. That’s my point!


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[Cash is King]

The teams that finished 1st and 2nd don't deserve to make a GF? Get your hand off it you *******.

Whatever Pretender. Very rarely do teams come from nowhere to win it all. Usually a team that ends up in a GF from nowhere loses against the more experienced team.

No-one gives a s**t about the minor premiership so stop with your hissy fit.

To answer your question, no they don’t deserve to. It has to be earned.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

Whatever Pretender. Very rarely do teams come from nowhere to win it all. Usually a team that ends up in a GF from nowhere loses against the more experienced team.

No-one gives a sh*t about the minor premiership so stop with your hissy fit.

To answer your question, no they don’t deserve to. It has to be earned.

Better to be a pretender than a never was. What the * would you know about being a good team, you haven't been good this century. You're a pimple on the arse of the league. We've been on top of the ladder all year. When we were in the hub and all the Vic teams were in their own beds (being in your own bed apparently gives people magical powers), we were top. When we were getting up at 4am to fly halfway across the country and play the same day, we were top. When we didn't get a bye and played 2 top 4 sides, another top 8, and 9th in the 1st condensed fixture, we were top. We finished top, we have beaten 15 of 17 teams this year and have beaten 2 of the 3 teams still left in it. IF we were to win through to a GF, it would absolutely 'feel right'. If Brisbane, the team that has finished 2nd the last 2 years in a row and won their QF made it through, they would also 'feel right'. By the same token, if either Geelong/ Richmond were good enough to roll one of us on our home deck, they would be worthy participants in the GF. The reason why it wouldn't 'feel' right to you seeing a Brisbane v Port GF is you're a pathetic loser clinging on to a competition that doesn't exist anymore and if your brown paper bag giving, pea hearted flog team can't be relevant, well you'll cheer on whoever comes from your state to knock us outsiders down a peg. It's the only thing keeping you going while watching the rest of the country living their best lives you sook.

I have no doubt that we will start underdogs, again. We won't have been the premiership favorite at any time this year, not once, not even top 4 for some of the year (despite being top). And yet, if we go down in either game, all of you losers jerking your little peckers will come out of the woodwork to bag us for choking. I'll take people from Geelong and Richmond ragging on us through gritted teeth, but I am not going to listen to some nobody from some s**t truck team having a crack at us from their off season.

 

[Mesc]

Geelong. 2020 Premiers

Hmmmm.

 

[Seeds]

And in there lies the answer why 3peats and even b2b are considered greater achievements.
Geelong were a fantastic team in 07, but after breaking their drought and not falling victim to the dredded premiership hangover that has plagued many a talented side in the subsequent home and away season they fell over at the last hurdle, perhaps they did get cocky, the great sides of Brisbane and Hawthorn didnt, the great sides find a way.
Geelongs 3 in 5 is still a fantastic achievement, but not in the same vein as those 3peats.

For mine Brisbane is the best as they beat an unstoppable Essendon in their first crack to set the 3peat ball rolling, Hawthorn had a practice run in 2012 before they went on their way to 3 in a row. Geelong is next with 3 from 5 and then Richmond, should the Tiges het up this year 3 from 4 with a b2b elevates them to 3rd.

Brisbane played their 2nd and 3rd grand finals against the pies who just werent grand final class. Brisbanes first grand final was a monster win against the bombers. The pies however werent quality.

hawthorn played against overawed interstate sides. Freo and west coast were terrible grand final sides in particular. Swans were a big win though.

geelong played its 2nd to 4th grand finals against some of the best sides of the past twenty years at their home city. we won 2 out of 3.

 

[Pessimistic]

Brisbane played their 2nd and 3rd grand finals against the pies who just werent grand final class. Brisbanes first grand final was a monster win against the bombers. The pies however werent quality.

hawthorn played against overawed interstate sides. Freo and west coast were terrible grand final sides in particular. Swans were a big win though.

geelong played its 2nd to 4th grand finals against some of the best sides of the past twenty years at their home city. we won 2 out of 3.

Saints and Magpies have an even worse GF record than Geelong. not to say that geelong team werent great, but your argument basis can be applied differently

 

[Seeds]

Saints and Magpies have an even worse GF record than Geelong. not to say that geelong team werent great, but your argument basis can be applied differently

What has decade long history of completely different lists got to do with anything? Those saints and pies teams were two of the best teams of the past 30 years. Saints won the first 18 odd games in a row. Collingwood was the reigning premier and only lost to geelong in the entire season. Media were talking them up as the best side in a century. Geelong beat both of them to flags. Brisbane and hawthorn played nothing even close to any of those sides in second and third year flags. If they did They may well only have 1 flag each.

 

[HAPPY BUDDHA]

For mine Brisbane is the best
then Hawthorn
Geelong is next with 3 from 5 and then Richmond, should the Tiges het up this year 3 from 4 with a b2b elevates them to 3rd.

No chance.
If we are talking only AFL then the Crows B2B of 97-98 tops the tigers 17 & 19.
Coached by Blight who had already done a Ross Lyon by losing 3 GFs before that makes it even more special.

 

[99cents]

If Geelong had missed finals in 2008, or at least not made the GF, people would consider them a better team. There would be fewer criticisms of their record.​

 

[Ron The Bear]

The teams that finished 1st and 2nd don't deserve to make a GF? Get your hand off it you *******.

 

[Ron The Bear]

I don't think Richmond would get close to the greatest teams discussion.
I think their era has been very weak by comparison.
Great achievement if they do make it 3 in 4 years but both their respective grand finalists missed the finals the next year.

 

[99cents]

Where's 2018?

 

[iameviljez]

The teams that finished 1st and 2nd don't deserve to make a GF? Get your hand off it you *******.

No coincidence that the top two sides are two of the teams able to actually enjoy home ground advantage. Ladder does not tell the full story.

 

[Vassp]

This week, this Geelong team needs to prove it to themselves if they're good enough. its a scary game.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Where's 2018?

Nobody was home.

 

[Duckenthusiast]

No coincidence that the top two sides are two of the teams able to actually enjoy home ground advantage. Ladder does not tell the full story.

Port played about 2 more games in SA than alot of Vic teams played in Vic.

 

[iameviljez]

Port played about 2 more games in SA than alot of Vic teams played in Vic.

We played three games at Kardinia. I’m pretty sure you played 8 or 9 at AO?

 

[rfctigerarmy]

We played three games at Kardinia. I’m pretty sure you played 8 or 9 at AO?

That's a great story. He did say "Vic", though.

 

[iameviljez]

That's a great story. He did say "Vic", though.

Bit of a cop out

anyway, I think we only played one game in Melbourne, and it was against Melbourne.