Geelong's Recent Record Vs West Coast

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I've seen a lot of posts suggesting Eagles would have beaten us if fully fit.

I actually think our record against Eagles over past few years is very good and I don't agree at all with that assumption.

We lost a tight game against them in Subiaco in 2004 (Kelly broke his leg)

We beat them easily at home in 2005 (NAblett's debut) after losing to them earlier that year (when Woji did his knee)

We should have beaten them at home in 2006 (except for superhuman performances by Cousins and Kerr and some extremely dubious umpiring)

We beat them comfortably at home in 2007 while Judd was still fit

So the statement that fit eagles are better doesn't stack up against previous results
 

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I've seen a lot of posts suggesting Eagles would have beaten us if fully fit.

I actually think our record against Eagles over past few years is very good and I don't agree at all with that assumption.

We lost a tight game against them in Subiaco in 2004 (Kelly broke his leg)

We beat them easily at home in 2005 (NAblett's debut) after losing to them earlier that year (when Woji did his knee)

We should have beaten them at home in 2006 (except for superhuman performances by Cousins and Kerr and some extremely dubious umpiring)

We beat them comfortably at home in 2007 while Judd was still fit

So the statement that fit eagles are better doesn't stack up against previous results
a 50 odd point come back off the umps ? come on we were shocking that day, one of the worst games ive seen us in.
 

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a 50 odd point come back off the umps ? come on we were shocking that day, one of the worst games ive seen us in.
Eagles got on a roll and Kerr and Cousins were unstoppable. Once they got within 5 goals we started to panic and went all defensive. It was pretty shocking to lose after leading by so much but to even get that far ahead in the first place suggests that we have their measure.

Of course that was down at Skilled Stadium. It's been harder for us at Subiaco.
 

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dude. that's not what i said. Cousins and Kerr mainly. but there were some very bad calls that gave the eagles a way in to the match late in the first half
Yeh sweet it is hard to tell somtimes,we bent over in that game and coped it hard,did all the right things and then just gave up.

Eagles got on a roll and Kerr and Cousins were unstoppable. Once they got within 5 goals we started to panic and went all defensive. It was pretty shocking to lose after leading by so much but to even get that far ahead in the first place suggests that we have their measure.

Of course that was down at Skilled Stadium. It's been harder for us at Subiaco.
yeh they were very good that day, i guess we were early but like i said we just stoped and bend over and said, here we go
 
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cool - I shouldn't have mentioned umpiring!

anyway, my main point is our record against fit eagles squads is good and anyone saying they would have beaten us should be reminded of our 2-1 record over them in the last 3 matches
 

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Eagles fans claim they'd definately beat us if they were full strength because they know it can't be proven.
Exactly right, don't worry about it. The Cats deserved their Premiership in every way, shape and form :D I can think of at least 119 reasons ;)

We'll get to meet West Coast in a final soon enough, then all questions will be answered :D
 

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Originally Posted by OldStyle2007

I've seen a lot of posts suggesting Eagles would have beaten us if fully fit.

I actually think our record against Eagles over past few years is very good and I don't agree at all with that assumption.

We lost a tight game against them in Subiaco in 2004 (Kelly broke his leg)

We beat them easily at home in 2005 (NAblett's debut) after losing to them earlier that year (when Woji did his knee)

We should have beaten them at home in 2006 (except for superhuman performances by Cousins and Kerr and some extremely dubious umpiring)

We beat them comfortably at home in 2007 while Judd was still fit

So the statement that fit eagles are better doesn't stack up against previous results

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Eagles got on a roll and Kerr and Cousins were unstoppable. Once they got within 5 goals we started to panic and went all defensive. It was pretty shocking to lose after leading by so much but to even get that far ahead in the first place suggests that we have their measure.

Of course that was down at Skilled Stadium. It's been harder for us at Subiaco.

That's pretty much how I saw the game.
 

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Whats the Geelong v's WC record at the MCG like?
Dont think we would have played many if any games there with the current core of players both teams have it is usually skilled or subi.

I dont think games in the early to mid 90's would have any bearing on how the two current sides match up.
 

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Its all meaningless. Pre and post 20070929 , If the Eagles or the Hawks or the Pies or any other feathered animal think what happened last year or in last Decade will apply to now . Ha , Ha , I say Ha , Ha.

We are now in an alternate universe. I think its time for them to taste the bitter brew we have been drinking. Things have changed, changed for the better.

Next year we will beat The Hawks in a GF.
We will get out to 40 point lead ,the Hawks in blind, youthful bloodlust , take out 2 or 3 of our players.Slowly they come back but at the end of the game they just missout by 6 points

Then the year after , the Eagles having rebuilt their list from the 17 draft picks they got for Judd start well , in fact they lead us by halftime by 2 goals. But the powers of Gary Ablett , playing on the wing drives us back into the game. He runs amok kicking 4 goals in a Norm Smith winning display. The question after the game will be why Worsfold went head to head with Ablett rather than tagging him. "Cousins was playing well" he said "He just didn't kick the goals the Ablett did"

The following year the Eagles are back again ,this time however they aren't in anyway a match for us. After their 1st tough final and their even tougher Preliminary Final, won with a kick after the siren. They had nothing left for the GF. WE clobber them with the Tomahawk kicking 6 or 7.

Then after that , Carlton , after all the Priority draft picks ,they finally start to produce. Unfortunately for them the new Captain of Geelong Joel Selwood yet again shows why he is best player in the comp , the modern version of Diesel Williams , he kicks 5 playing in the centre and Bltz's them.

Oh yes , I say Oh yes. Bring it on
 

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Originally Posted by OldStyle2007

I've seen a lot of posts suggesting Eagles would have beaten us if fully fit.

I actually think our record against Eagles over past few years is very good and I don't agree at all with that assumption.

We lost a tight game against them in Subiaco in 2004 (Kelly broke his leg)

We beat them easily at home in 2005 (NAblett's debut) after losing to them earlier that year (when Woji did his knee)

We should have beaten them at home in 2006 (except for superhuman performances by Cousins and Kerr and some extremely dubious umpiring)

We beat them comfortably at home in 2007 while Judd was still fit

So the statement that fit eagles are better doesn't stack up against previous results
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FWIW we will never know coz judd is gone...but i think we would have lost, not by 119pnts, but i dont think we would have won on that day.
 

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IMO, the beginning of the end of us in the West Coast game last year was when Harley went down with a shoulder injury just after half-time and we had to switch Mooney from CHF to CHB. Moons was our only dangerous forward that day, and as soon as he left the forward line, we had no target to kick too, so just lost all our structure and that's probably why it looked like we went defensive. We just had no one to kick to forward of the centre.
 

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Its all meaningless. Pre and post 20070929 , If the Eagles or the Hawks or the Pies or any other feathered animal think what happened last year or in last Decade will apply to now . Ha , Ha , I say Ha , Ha.

We are now in an alternate universe. I think its time for them to taste the bitter brew we have been drinking. Things have changed, changed for the better.

Next year we will beat The Hawks in a GF.
We will get out to 40 point lead ,the Hawks in blind, youth bloodlust , take out 2 or 3 of our players.Slowly they come back but at the end of the game they just missout by 6 points

Then the year after , the Eagles having rebuilt their list from the 17 draft picks they got for Judd start well , in fact they lead us by halftime by 2 goals. But the powers of Gary Ablett , playing on the wing drives us back into the game.Run amok he kicks 4 goals in a Norm Smith winning dispaly. The question after the game will be why Worsfold went head to head with Ablett rather than tagging him. "Cousins was playing well" he said "He just didn't kick the goals the Ablett did"

The following year the Eagles are back again ,this time however they aren't in anyway a match for us. After their 1st tough final and theri even tougher Preliminary Final, won with a kick after the siren. They had nothing left for the GF. WE clobber them with the Tomahawk kicking 6 or 7.

Then after that Carlton , finally , after all the Priority draft picks they finally start to produce.Unfortunately for them the new Captain of Geelon Joel Selwood yet again shows why he is best player in the comp , the modern version of Deisel Williams , he kicks 5 playing in the centre and Bltz's them.

Oh yes , I say Oh yes. Bring it on
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I think we match up pretty well with them. Recently, we probably actually have the wood on them. A final between us and West Coast would be pretty close, I'd say, but there's no way that Weagles fans can be sure they'd beat us.
 

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We should have beaten them at home in 2006 (except for superhuman performances by Cousins and Kerr and some extremely dubious umpiring)
I know you've already apologised for this umpiring statement but just on that. The only bad decision I can remember was Milburns deliberate out of bounds. He kicked it from the center and it landed out near the fifty and he got pinged for it.

IMO, the beginning of the end of us in the West Coast game last year was when Harley went down with a shoulder injury just after half-time and we had to switch Mooney from CHF to CHB. Moons was our only dangerous forward that day, and as soon as he left the forward line, we had no target to kick too, so just lost all our structure and that's probably why it looked like we went defensive. We just had no one to kick to forward of the centre.
This is pretty much what happened although the Geelong team of 2006 wasn't mentally tough. Geelong of 2007 most certainly would've held a 50 point lead no matter what injuries occurred.
 
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I know you've already apologised for this umpiring statement but just on that. The only bad decision I can remember was Milburns deliberate out of bounds. He kicked it from the center and it landed out near the fifty and he got pinged for it.
don't make me get out the dvd and review it!! I'd rather spend my money on 2007 games. :) we got killed just when we were about to put them away....

put it this way: they were equally as bad as some of those calls in the collingwood prelim (did you agree with the rocca free? Harley must be the first player in the history of the game to be penalised for running back with the flight of the ball)
 

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IMO, the beginning of the end of us in the West Coast game last year was when Harley went down with a shoulder injury just after half-time and we had to switch Mooney from CHF to CHB. Moons was our only dangerous forward that day, and as soon as he left the forward line, we had no target to kick too, so just lost all our structure and that's probably why it looked like we went defensive. We just had no one to kick to forward of the centre.
Also probably presents some proof of Harley's leadership qualities; without him to keep the team together, they crumbled. Agree though that the loss of Mooney from the forward line was what killed us, in addition to terrific performances from Kerr + Cousins.
 
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