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But like Garlett for us last year?
Makes no difference
But with Saad, they were able to cancel his contract, so maybe the same for Crowley. But then you've gotta ask yourself- can you risk a disgruntled Crowley serving out his suspension and then coming back on a 1y contract with GWS/GC to shut down Fyfe?
 

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tested positive in July, played finals in September.
From the AFL website:

"According to a timeline released by the AFL, that sample wasn't tested until August 11. Crowley was notified of a positive 'A' sample result for a 'specified' substance on August 18.

His 'B' sample was tested on September 11 and he received a show-cause notice on September 18 - five days after Fremantle's last game of the 2014 season.

Under the AFL Anti-Doping Code, a player who tests positive to a specified substance may, if they choose, continue to play and train as normal until the result of an Anti-Doping Tribunal.

Crowley kept playing until the end of the season and accepted a provisional suspension, which started on September 25 last year.

The testing of Crowley's 'B' sample was the reason for the delay in issuing the infraction. Crowley himself wasn't formally notified he had tested positive until September, after the Dockers' season had ended at the hands of Port Adelaide."

I'm guessing that waiting until the B sample is tested is standard process, in case the A sample was a false positive. Seems like Crowley and the AFL have done everything above board in this case, and Crowley began his suspension shortly after he was informed he had received a show-cause notice.
 

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From the AFL website:

"According to a timeline released by the AFL, that sample wasn't tested until August 11. Crowley was notified of a positive 'A' sample result for a 'specified' substance on August 18.

His 'B' sample was tested on September 11 and he received a show-cause notice on September 18 - five days after Fremantle's last game of the 2014 season.

Under the AFL Anti-Doping Code, a player who tests positive to a specified substance may, if they choose, continue to play and train as normal until the result of an Anti-Doping Tribunal.

Crowley kept playing until the end of the season and accepted a provisional suspension, which started on September 25 last year.

The testing of Crowley's 'B' sample was the reason for the delay in issuing the infraction. Crowley himself wasn't formally notified he had tested positive until September, after the Dockers' season had ended at the hands of Port Adelaide."

I'm guessing that waiting until the B sample is tested is standard process, in case the A sample was a false positive. Seems like Crowley and the AFL have done everything above board in this case, and Crowley began his suspension shortly after he was informed he had received a show-cause notice.
Now if we could only get the same for that little shit Ballantyne ...
 

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From the AFL website:

"According to a timeline released by the AFL, that sample wasn't tested until August 11. Crowley was notified of a positive 'A' sample result for a 'specified' substance on August 18.

His 'B' sample was tested on September 11 and he received a show-cause notice on September 18 - five days after Fremantle's last game of the 2014 season.

Under the AFL Anti-Doping Code, a player who tests positive to a specified substance may, if they choose, continue to play and train as normal until the result of an Anti-Doping Tribunal.

Crowley kept playing until the end of the season and accepted a provisional suspension, which started on September 25 last year.

The testing of Crowley's 'B' sample was the reason for the delay in issuing the infraction. Crowley himself wasn't formally notified he had tested positive until September, after the Dockers' season had ended at the hands of Port Adelaide."

I'm guessing that waiting until the B sample is tested is standard process, in case the A sample was a false positive. Seems like Crowley and the AFL have done everything above board in this case, and Crowley began his suspension shortly after he was informed he had received a show-cause notice.
They were reporting on 3AW that Crowley would have been given notification of his A sample testing positive, though wouldn't have been "formally" notified until after the B sample tested positive. In other words, he knew from August 18 that he was likely to be sitting out for the next 18 months.

This means he played in the Brisbane/Port games with a heavy suspicion he was going to be penalised.

It also means that despite the sample being taken in July, it wasn't tested until August 11, and he wasn't notified until THE DAY AFTER the hawthorn game.

Interesting timing, that.

Also, there was a mention on 3AW that players who test positive in sample A will traditionally voluntarily stand down until the B sample is tested. Who'd have guessed that Crowley wouldn't be the kind to shirk tradition...
 

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To be fair to Crowley he probably thought his career was over so not sitting out the last couple of games of the year was all he had left.

What I want to know is how can the afl not convene the tribunal in october for this stuff! They had six months to process the case and can't do it until the start of the new season? What a load of crap. Freo lose a player and are now one short on their list because the afl have taken so long. It's ridiculous. They can test and ban cyclist within a few days of the sample been taken in the Tour de France. The afl once again leading the world from the rear.
 
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From the AFL website:

"According to a timeline released by the AFL, that sample wasn't tested until August 11. Crowley was notified of a positive 'A' sample result for a 'specified' substance on August 18.

His 'B' sample was tested on September 11 and he received a show-cause notice on September 18 - five days after Fremantle's last game of the 2014 season.

Under the AFL Anti-Doping Code, a player who tests positive to a specified substance may, if they choose, continue to play and train as normal until the result of an Anti-Doping Tribunal.

Crowley kept playing until the end of the season and accepted a provisional suspension, which started on September 25 last year.

The testing of Crowley's 'B' sample was the reason for the delay in issuing the infraction. Crowley himself wasn't formally notified he had tested positive until September, after the Dockers' season had ended at the hands of Port Adelaide."

I'm guessing that waiting until the B sample is tested is standard process, in case the A sample was a false positive. Seems like Crowley and the AFL have done everything above board in this case, and Crowley began his suspension shortly after he was informed he had received a show-cause notice.

What a farce. How can you play after a positive test. Athlete should be formally notified and suspended immediately the positive is recorded. Then to wait 4 weeks for the B sample to be tested! w.t.f were they waiting for!

For someone who has grown up in Athletics and being a keen supporter of olympic sports (i.e subject to WADA) this is b/s.
 

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From the AFL website:

"According to a timeline released by the AFL, that sample wasn't tested until August 11. Crowley was notified of a positive 'A' sample result for a 'specified' substance on August 18.

His 'B' sample was tested on September 11 and he received a show-cause notice on September 18 - five days after Fremantle's last game of the 2014 season.

Under the AFL Anti-Doping Code, a player who tests positive to a specified substance may, if they choose, continue to play and train as normal until the result of an Anti-Doping Tribunal.

Crowley kept playing until the end of the season and accepted a provisional suspension, which started on September 25 last year.

The testing of Crowley's 'B' sample was the reason for the delay in issuing the infraction. Crowley himself wasn't formally notified he had tested positive until September, after the Dockers' season had ended at the hands of Port Adelaide."

I'm guessing that waiting until the B sample is tested is standard process, in case the A sample was a false positive. Seems like Crowley and the AFL have done everything above board in this case, and Crowley began his suspension shortly after he was informed he had received a show-cause notice.
Really???? I took it as that the B sample was delayed until straight after Freo got knocked out to ensure if he was positive he wouldn't miss the GF and then derail the AFL's season further after the Essendon debacle.

AFL are hardly above board if that's what has transpired.
 

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He's gone. He struggled last year with some back issues and looked pretty lost on form

Was word that he wanted to retire last year but was pushed into staying for another year.

It's really odd, pretty decent guy from all accounts. Maybe he was just trying to get through the pain
 

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They were reporting on 3AW that Crowley would have been given notification of his A sample testing positive, though wouldn't have been "formally" notified until after the B sample tested positive. In other words, he knew from August 18 that he was likely to be sitting out for the next 18 months.

This means he played in the Brisbane/Port games with a heavy suspicion he was going to be penalised.

It also means that despite the sample being taken in July, it wasn't tested until August 11, and he wasn't notified until THE DAY AFTER the hawthorn game.

Interesting timing, that.

Also, there was a mention on 3AW that players who test positive in sample A will traditionally voluntarily stand down until the B sample is tested. Who'd have guessed that Crowley wouldn't be the kind to shirk tradition...
Yeah, like i said, i was just guessing with the waiting until the B sample is tested part. Given how long ASADA take to test sample B and give out a SCN, i wouldn't be standing down from playing until they've double checked that the test is positive.

On the timings, again, i'm guessing here, but there must be a metric ****ton of samples to be tested. The timeline of sample A being tested doesn't seem that farfetched. That it took so long to test sample B seems a bit odd. If i were in charge of the testing, if any test came back positive i'd be testing sample B ASAP.

I know we all love a good AFL conspiracy, but imo most of this doesn't seem that odd. Just because players can voluntarily stand down doesn't mean they are obligated to. As Brishawk said, given this will end his career, it doesn't make sense to miss out on his last few games.
 

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He's gone. He struggled last year with some back issues and looked pretty lost on form

Was word that he wanted to retire last year but was pushed into staying for another year.

It's really odd, pretty decent guy from all accounts. Maybe he was just trying to get through the pain
Reckon freo would have asked him to play on if they new he had tested positive?
 

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I just saw a video on The Age site about our chances this year and Rohan Connelly looked like shit. He said he'd been belted by someone who disagreed with Rohan's view that the bloke's team would miss the 8.

I hadn't heard anything about this and wondered if anyone knew more.
 
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I just saw a video on The Age site about our chances this year and Rohan Connelly looked like shit. He said he'd been belted by someone who disagreed with Rohan's view that the bloke's team would miss the 8.

I hadn't heard anything about this and wondered if anyone knew more.
Rohan has the kind of head & smarmy attitude that'd make anyone want to hit him....I'm just surprised it doesn't happen more often!o_O
 

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Rohan has the kind of head & smarmy attitude that'd make anyone want to hit him....I'm just surprised it doesn't happen more often!o_O
He went to the same high school as me (and, briefly, Paul Abbott) but he was a couple of years older and I didn't know him. He certainly didn't stand out of the crowd (too me anyway).
 

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I just saw a video on The Age site about our chances this year and Rohan Connelly looked like shit. He said he'd been belted by someone who disagreed with Rohan's view that the bloke's team would miss the 8.

I hadn't heard anything about this and wondered if anyone knew more.
Must check this out.
 

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Given how long the AFL or ASADA take to get their samples analysed, I think they need to go to a different pathologist. I would think with all the money they have it should only take a few days at most to test.
 
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