No Oppo Supporters General AFL Discussion #11 - Carlton Posters ONLY!

[Wickzki]

Is it also not probable that the majority of AFL players could have stress related mental illnesses, given the lives they lead and the lack of downtime they get? I would be surprised if there isn't a much higher rate of mental illness in the AFL playing ranks than is reported.

Yet we have coaches and players who argue that players have too much downtime during the week. Bolton's quotes about how important players use this time positively instead of just sitting around playing XBox which is again supported by the grow in number of players with Twich channels live streaming their gameplay.

 

[B if i Know]

We were never trading pick1 for Shiel.
It's a bad comparison.

The question is more that should we have traded 2 second rounders and mcadam for McGovern when we needed 25yr old mids.

Potentially we should have kept mcadam filling the small fwd need. Traded 1 or 2 seconds and next years first for shiel.

Would have ended up with Walsh, Shiel McAdam and a second rounder (if only 1 traded)

Instead we have McGovern, Walsh.

All moot now, we have what we have



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You're opinion is fair enough JP, but I think we ended up with Walsh, McGovern, Stocker and Adelaide's 2019 1st.
To me, especially for the medium/long term, this puts us in front....

 

[Dadda Dave]

See that Hannebery to miss the first month of football, calf and hamstring injury

Saints injuries are chronic

The writing was on the wall before they signed him imo..
Missed a lot of last season due to injury..he's cooked in more ways than one if you get my drift

 

[thylacine60]

how did we ever miss on this bloke?

 

[Aphrodite]

The writing was on the wall before they signed him imo..
Missed a lot of last season due to injury..he's cooked in more ways than one if you get my drift

Was it a 5yr contract?

 

[Aphrodite]

how did we ever miss on this bloke?

Shut up!

 

[Dadda Dave]

Was it a 5yr contract?

Not sure how long he's signed for but I hope it's 5 years..

 

[Aphrodite]

Not sure how long he's signed for but I hope it's 5 years..

I think from memory it is.

Rabble landed a big

 

[Stamos]

Was it a 5yr contract?

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[Blue__Balls]

Agree - too much emphasis on so called first round pick(s) - but would rather be in Carlton's list position than Hawforns right now...I reckon they are cooked on a 2 yr view. Back in 2011/12 I reckon we were 80% there needed a class midfielder like O'Keefe and a couple of defenders to help Jamo ...Ratten's problem (if any at the time ) was over achieving.

After watching Walsh play - we have to all agree he is a better choice on a 2-3 yr view than Shiel. Not convinced EssenDONE will see much benefit from his inclusion - takes 24-30 players to get to a GF.

That's (Hawthorn) more about holding on too long.

Perhaps being a little greedy and trying to sneak in one more flag, when they could have gone harder at a reload of younger players two or three years back, conceded a few flag chances, but been on the rise again now.

Then again - maybe trying to capitalise on their experienced core for the last few years was the right thing to do and it just didn't pay off.

 

[Stamos]

We were all clearly wrong to think that Cripps was ripped off in the Rising Star

 

[Stig O'Hara]

how did we ever miss on this bloke?

Only had one lunchtime Gold Coast, Lear Jet, joyflight voucher to spare.

And we stuffed that up.

 

[Aphrodite]

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https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl...nts-five-year-offer/wnbvw3c438fh11n9e8qnkon41

 

[Stamos]

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https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl...nts-five-year-offer/wnbvw3c438fh11n9e8qnkon41

Sorry, thought we were talking about Hogan

 

[Aphrodite]

Sorry, thought we were talking about Hogan

No Hanners.

All good Stamos.

 

[Wickzki]

Hopefully we may want to get used to saying this guy's name

 

[Bluebag13]

Hopefully we may want to get used to saying this guy's name

Still not 100% right though haha


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[Jabba73]

Not sure how long he's signed for but I hope it's 5 years..

Chuck’s daughter called it his retirement fund. Bet that warmed the collective hearts of his new club.

 

[Blue and Blue]

I’m claiming something to excuse my behaviour in here.

Will let you know what it is after my 1.30pm with my lawyer. Please note my condition may it may not change on the severity of the offence.

All lies....lawyers are still at lunch till 2...except if theyre at the golf club

 

[JustaBattler]

That's (Hawthorn) more about holding on too long.

Perhaps being a little greedy and trying to sneak in one more flag, when they could have gone harder at a reload of younger players two or three years back, conceded a few flag chances, but been on the rise again now.

Then again - maybe trying to capitalise on their experienced core for the last few years was the right thing to do and it just didn't pay off.

You are probably right on both counts

 

[Jabba73]

All lies....lawyers are still at lunch till 2...except if theyre at the golf club

Only do lunch meetings, usually see me through until close of business.

 

[Gethelred]

Yet we have coaches and players who argue that players have too much downtime during the week. Bolton's quotes about how important players use this time positively instead of just sitting around playing XBox which is again supported by the grow in number of players with Twich channels live streaming their gameplay.

Coaches are not psychologists, and to be a top level coach is to be exacting, to make demands that are unreasonable and to watch on as their players seek to fulfill them. I would be completely unsurprised if coaches and psychologists treating individuals outside the AFL system had wildly different opinions as to what a healthy amount of time fixated on something so all consuming would be; in fact, I'd be astounded if their expectations lined up at all.

And Bolts sounds like an old bloke lamenting how in his day kids went outside to the juice bar instead of the arcade.

 

[Blue and Blue]

Only do lunch meetings, usually see me through until close of business.

If it hasn't led to a ... constitutional crisis... its not a truly succesful lunch.....

 

[norway blue]

You're opinion is fair enough JP, but I think we ended up with Walsh, McGovern, Stocker and Adelaide's 2019 1st.
To me, especially for the medium/long term, this puts us in front....

Yes and JP said it in his last sentence. We were dealt this hand , draft / trading machinations aside , so let’s deal with it . Can’t wait until round 1.


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[norway blue]

Only had one lunchtime Gold Coast, Lear Jet, joyflight voucher to spare.

And we stuffed that up.

First date with a girl I usually do a walk on the beach. Agree it seemed OTT .


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