No Oppo Supporters General AFL Discussion #11 - Carlton Posters ONLY!

[Planet14]

I think you will find that removing the best and fairest award from the 1930s awarded to Dyer, is the opposite in the status quo.

The upside is having an accurate representation of history and not one fudged by reputation

That's my point, they prove Dyer really was B&F, status quo maintained, nobody any the wiser.

Alternatively, if there is doubt, it doesn't improve anything, nobody has a greater understanding or appreciation of Richmond's history. All they achieve is upsetting the people for whom the legend means something.

I could provide forensic evidence to my dear old 83 year old mother that Christ never really existed, or didn't really turn water into wine or whatever, and prove to her everything she has held dear her entirely life is a lie. It might be the accurate representation of history, but it also kind a dick move that leaves neither of us better off.

 

[thylacine60]

nicely put p14.....

 

[DangerousD]

That's my point, they prove Dyer really was B&F, status quo maintained, nobody any the wiser.

Alternatively, if there is doubt, it doesn't improve anything, nobody has a greater understanding or appreciation of Richmond's history. All they achieve is upsetting the people for whom the legend means something.

I could provide forensic evidence to my dear old 83 year old mother that Christ never really existed, or didn't really turn water into wine or whatever, and prove to her everything she has held dear her entirely life is a lie. It might be the accurate representation of history, but it also kind a dick move that leaves neither of us better off.

I like your style but I think your religion comparison isn’t the same thing.

It has upset the Dyers but who else? The Richmond board were supportive, KB seemed to accept it.

Building a legend and a reputation through falsehoods doesn’t sit the best with me.

 

[Gethelred]

That's my point, they prove Dyer really was B&F, status quo maintained, nobody any the wiser.

Alternatively, if there is doubt, it doesn't improve anything, nobody has a greater understanding or appreciation of Richmond's history. All they achieve is upsetting the people for whom the legend means something.

I could provide forensic evidence to my dear old 83 year old mother that Christ never really existed, or didn't really turn water into wine or whatever, and prove to her everything she has held dear her entirely life is a lie. It might be the accurate representation of history, but it also kind a dick move that leaves neither of us better off.

There is a difference between your mother's religion and who won the BNF at Richmond. Your comparison is absurd.

 

[thylacine60]

Who you should barrack against in 2020: Your club's future picks

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[Jabba73]

Who you should barrack against in 2020: Your club's future picks

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Gunna death ride the Cows because ... Adelaide

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Who you should barrack against in 2020: Your club's future picks

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Apparently we need to start a blue with the Demons this year....somehow they got our future 4th cos someone traded with someone who traded with someone....

Okay, I'll start..."ya bunch of mongrels"....there, that should upset em'....

 

[Jabba73]

Who you should barrack against in 2020: Your club's future picks

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Gunna death ride the Cows because ... Adelaide

 

[thylacine60]

when death-riding once is barely enough..........

 

[Aphrodite]

So Coniglio named new GWS captain.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

when death-riding once is barely enough..........

I have been death riding Essendon for years, and am all the happier for it

 

[Jabba73]

So Coniglio named new GWS captain.

Do captains get any special bonus payments?

If so, is it counted as part of the SC?

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Aphrodite]

Do captains get any special bonus payments?

If so, is it counted as part of the SC?

Ask Gill.

 

[Blue Pulse]

Do captains get any special bonus payments?

If so, is it counted as part of the SC?

Of cour$e not Jab, you're just being $ceptical

 

[Blue__Balls]

Devil's advocate, Coniglio is an experienced, talented player with strong leadership credentials, and he turned down opposition interest to re-sign long-term with the club. He's an excellent choice for captain, and it's a bit unfair to assume there is anything nefarious going on. For all we know, the player's voted him in.

 

[thylacine60]

it's also highly possible he was offered the captaincy by the club as a sweetener to stay............

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Melbourne officially sign Mitch Brown.

Had some good luck with ex Bummers at the Dees, Milkshake, Hibberd etc

 

[thylacine60]

The arrival of Halls Creek's Sam Petrevski-Seton at Carlton triggered huge interest in the Kimberley from AFL scouts.

AFL eyes off a groundswell of Kimberley talent, but local leagues want support

With increasing numbers of Kimberley players reaching AFL level, locals want to ensure the right structures are being put in place.

www.abc.net.au

 

[DangerousD]

Hey mate, you majored in history. Could you look into the history of decade between 1910 and 1920 and why the league had started off counting the flags of clubs straight from 1896 to 1897 as just another football season in Melbourne and the flags they were counting from previous decades that were the convention of history of the time then got changed in 1920's. Find it fascinating as did not even know it was the case until looked up VFL records around that time and seen they were counting flags from 1870's all way into 1920 and then changed sometime in that decade.
I would not know where to look but would be interesting to see the reasons the convention got changed.

Is this related to the push this year, to have the premierships reinstated? It was a decent size story mid year. It would benefit us a lot if i recall correctly.

 

[footyfan1978]

Is this related to the push this year, to have the premierships reinstated? It was a decent size story mid year. It would benefit us a lot if i recall correctly.

Somewhat. The Geelong guy after the premiership stuff for Cats did have some interesting things to say beyond the headlines. Does not benefit us in reality. The premierships we have are there in history, nothing changes that. I do not think the Cats guy will get his wish as we been using the same convention now of premiership counts for around 100 years. Too many generations on to change back now.

My interest in it was what was going on around 1915 to 1925 for the convention to change of how the people of the time were counting the flags?

Would give a good insight into that period. We have 22 premierships regardless. 6 before the breakaway league and 16 in this league. But it is fascinating to learn from that Geelong guy that for first few decades of VFL they just treated it as a continuation of the football seasons that had been before so in the Football Records of the time, they did not just count the league premierships from 1897 onwards but from 1870 into the 1920's. I think there must have been some league politics going on that changed that convention but as yet not been able to put exact finger on it. A historian probably could though.

 

[footyfan1978]

The arrival of Halls Creek's Sam Petrevski-Seton at Carlton triggered huge interest in the Kimberley from AFL scouts.

AFL eyes off a groundswell of Kimberley talent, but local leagues want support

With increasing numbers of Kimberley players reaching AFL level, locals want to ensure the right structures are being put in place.

www.abc.net.au

His cousins plays for Melbourne. She was on radio a few weeks back. A real character too.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Champion Data have officially lost the plot.

It has to be a troll or wind up by MMM, it has to be surely.

 

[HARKER]

Greenwood is elite? I give up.

It's hardly worth getting wound up for though.
Stupid algorithms coming up with silly conclusions.

 

[Aphrodite]

Champion Data have officially lost the plot.

It has to be a troll or wind up by MMM, it has to be surely.

But but some of our own quote CD as if they are gospel and the only stats that matter.

I have always said CD is full of


That list above proves CD is an absolute JOKE!