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The state of the game seems to be a hot issue ATM! What's people's thoughts? I think it's as great as it's ever been but have to admit sometimes the multiple stoppages get to me.
 
The state of the game seems to be a hot issue ATM! What's people's thoughts? I think it's as great as it's ever been but have to admit sometimes the multiple stoppages get to me.
I think it says it all that the people complaining are mostly well past their time in football. It's the good old "things were better in my time" crap. The competition has been even, competitive and entertaining this year, but something has to fill papers and the AFL rules committee couldn't have a year without rule changes. :oops:

Leave it as is. Maybe bring the interchange cap down, but there's far too much complaining about defense from old-timers, especially in the media.
 
I think it says it all that the people complaining are mostly well past their time in football. It's the good old "things were better in my time" crap. The competition has been even, competitive and entertaining this year, but something has to fill papers and the AFL rules committee couldn't have a year without rule changes. :oops:

Leave it as is. Maybe bring the interchange cap down, but there's far too much complaining about defense from old-timers, especially in the media.

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I think it says it all that the people complaining are mostly well past their time in football. It's the good old "things were better in my time" crap. The competition has been even, competitive and entertaining this year, but something has to fill papers and the AFL rules committee couldn't have a year without rule changes. :oops:

Leave it as is. Maybe bring the interchange cap down, but there's far too much complaining about defense from old-timers, especially in the media.


on 3aw tonight. someonewas saying thatin the 70's / 80's they just balled it up quicker and then stopped the congestion. why not move back to that?
 
Very much looking forward to not playing Geelong down at Sleepy Hollow.

Will be the first time since I've been a Saints member that I can go to a St Kilda home game at Etihad against Geelong with my Cats supporting father who is a St Kilda member and sit in our reserved seats. Will be very interesting. :)
 
The state of the game seems to be a hot issue ATM! What's people's thoughts? I think it's as great as it's ever been but have to admit sometimes the multiple stoppages get to me.
People want shit to complain about and stoppages have been the no1 go to issue for ages now. Frankly, it's never really bothered me and the whole "rolling maul" is an exercise in pure exaggeration. It happens perhaps a couple of times a game where its more then two stoppages in a row, which mind you are balled up damn fast in the AFL, and the game still manages to move on fairly promptly.

I would like to see average scores increase but I really dont think stoppages have anything to really do with that.
 
Will be the first time since I've been a Saints member that I can go to a St Kilda home game at Etihad against Geelong with my Cats supporting father who is a St Kilda member and sit in our reserved seats. Will be very interesting. :)

FWIW - I think it will be an entertaining game against the Cats and we're in with a chance if we can play our brand of football. The cats are not the side they were - similar to us in 2012. Unlikely but still a chance....
 
Don't get the comparisons to rugby. It's got no structure or technique, it's just a mass of players all crowding around the ball trying to prevent the opposition from moving it wway quickly from the stoppage. Both the maul, and the scrum have significant aims, technique and structure beyond that mindless goal. Even league scrums, which are the living definition of pointless have more structure than the mess that is repeat stoppage footy.
 

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Not sure the change to throw the ball up so quickly after an initial stoppage achieves anything other than increasing the likelihood of another one.

And instead of the rule of one ruckman having to be a metre away from the other ruckmen, no ruckman should be allowed within a metre of the umpire's throw (easier to enforce, and more likely to result in a clear tap).

And while we're at it, bring the boundary umpires in when they throw the ball (even more on a wet day or when throwing into the wind). The weekend's VFL game got farcical with short throw-ins (leading to another throw or ball-up).

Would also be nice if they'd only bounce the ball to start quarters (and throw it up at centre bounces at other times). Encouraging better decision makers is more important than being able to bounce the ball for tradition's sake (and no other reason).
 
The whistles are a lot quicker than they used to be but when you have 36 players in one half of the ground it makes little difference. There was actual positional play when the umps threw it up quickly but that's well and truly gone now.
 
the amount of players around stoppages almost reminds me of a rugby scrum.

Sorry to intrude but this dawned on me today:

Coaches coach brilliantly for the known or the predictable event.

these 30+ blokes at a contest only grew when the umps changed from bouncing the ball to throwing it up.

the consistency and predictability make it easier to train and practice for

the bounce, whilst slower had an element of unpredictability about it and caused the ball to move easier away from stoppages and the game flowed.

we play with an OVAL football because we love the unpredictability of the ball, the way it bounces the way it flys thru the air etc etc.

its what differentiates us from other sports.

my 2cents worth and i could be completely wrong
 
If there was any credibility left in the Brownlow being anything other than a midfielder's medal, Todd Goldstein would have to give it a huuuuge shake.
 

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I wonder what the Dogs fans who were blaming the slow game on Richo, then Barker, are saying now. They're done. They can scrape points against us, Carlton and Gold Coast, but they won't against Collingwood, Port and West Coast if they keep on playing like this. The run is gone.
 

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