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That speech shits all over Mark Neeld's one back when we got demolished in round 2 2013. He is truly inspiring! This guy could've just accepted what was going to happen to him and do nothing about it but he has gone out of his way to raise awareness to help other sufferers and potentially find a cure. What a legend Neale is!
 

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If anyone hasn't seen this, watch it right now.

Ok, i know this will get me killed on here.

Its an ok speech. What he's done is fantastic, and he's got my respect for sure.

But that speech makes no sense to me. I don't understand how he can compare what he's done with a game of footy and keep a straight face.

And filming a speech like that and putting it on telly seems to take away from it for me.
 
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Ok, i know this will get me killed on here.

Its an ok speech. What he's done is fantastic, and he's got my respect for sure.

But that speech makes no sense to me. I don't understand how he can compare what he's done with a game of footy and keep a straight face.

And filming a speech like that and putting it on telly seems to take away from it for me.
Footy is his life mate, no doubt he feels there are parallels there with his illness.

It's part of the event, driving awareness and trying to raise funds.
 

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Footy is his life mate, no doubt he feels there are parallels there with his illness.

It's part of the event, driving awareness and trying to raise funds.
Yeah, i get it. Something about it just doesn't sit quite right with me for some reason.

Again, nothing but respect for him, and if doing anything on telly gets him more money for the cause i'll back him in.

I'm just thinking about what a great speaker and footy person he is, and that speech seemed out of character to me.
 

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I don't have any problems with the speech. He's mainly in MND mode for the week, but he's also taken time out for something else he cares about - the MFC. I think his topic was relevant to us - how much do some players think about themselves and their own performance above the team ethic? I think that has been an issue for us over the past 5 years. Just because we are improving as a team, doesn't mean we can't stand to have that message emphasised.

I think he's talking about total buy-in to the cause. Pushing as hard as possible with your teammates to get to your goal. Some players are just career footballers - they aren't all motivated by premierships. A lot of them are pragmatic guys who make a good living from football. Some of them will retire before the club can win a flag. Different people have different levels of buy-in. But if you have too many guys like that in your team, they are essentially robbing the other guys in the team that desperately want that success. I think Neale's speech was speaking to that. Think about how important this is to most of your teammates. Don't be content with playing well yourself and winning the odd game. We have had such a shit club culture for so long, I think we still need reminders about what it's all about.

The analogy with his struggle with MND might have been a little stretched - but not massively so. Selflessness vs selfishness is a battle going on in most people every day. It's something everybody should think about occasionally. And having a goal that you're passionate about and 100% bought into, makes it easier to do the hard yards to get there.

I think it was a lot better than a lot of televised "motivational" speeches. Neeld's speech was inept. That one Sheedy gave where he kept exploding with random loud words was even worse. Neale's was on point, succinct, and married up with our club's association with the Fight-MND campaign. So, Neale's speech sits just fine with me. :thumbsu:
 

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I don't have any problems with the speech. He's mainly in MND mode for the week, but he's also taken time out for something else he cares about - the MFC. I think his topic was relevant to us - how much do some players think about themselves and their own performance above the team ethic? I think that has been an issue for us over the past 5 years. Just because we are improving as a team, doesn't mean we can't stand to have that message emphasised.

I think he's talking about total buy-in to the cause. Pushing as hard as possible with your teammates to get to your goal. Some players are just career footballers - they aren't all motivated by premierships. A lot of them are pragmatic guys who make a good living from football. Some of them will retire before the club can win a flag. Different people have different levels of buy-in. But if you have too many guys like that in your team, they are essentially robbing the other guys in the team that desperately want that success. I think Neale's speech was speaking to that. Think about how important this is to most of your teammates. Don't be content with playing well yourself and winning the odd game. We have had such a shit club culture for so long, I think we still need reminders about what it's all about.

The analogy with his struggle with MND might have been a little stretched - but not massively so. Selflessness vs selfishness is a battle going on in most people every day. It's something everybody should think about occasionally. And having a goal that you're passionate about and 100% bought into, makes it easier to do the hard yards to get there.

I think it was a lot better than a lot of televised "motivational" speeches. Neeld's speech was inept. That one Sheedy gave where he kept exploding with random loud words was even worse. Neale's was on point, succinct, and married up with our club's association with the Fight-MND campaign. So, Neale's speech sits just fine with me. :thumbsu:
I mean military men regularly give speeches that loosely compare war and footy. It's not so much what you say but how you leave the players feeling after it. They need to want to run through a brick wall after it, not necessarily be smarter people.

As Gawn said somewhere it was the selfishness vs selflessness aspect he took from it.
 

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I don't have any problems with the speech. He's mainly in MND mode for the week, but he's also taken time out for something else he cares about - the MFC. I think his topic was relevant to us - how much do some players think about themselves and their own performance above the team ethic? I think that has been an issue for us over the past 5 years. Just because we are improving as a team, doesn't mean we can't stand to have that message emphasised.

I think he's talking about total buy-in to the cause. Pushing as hard as possible with your teammates to get to your goal. Some players are just career footballers - they aren't all motivated by premierships. A lot of them are pragmatic guys who make a good living from football. Some of them will retire before the club can win a flag. Different people have different levels of buy-in. But if you have too many guys like that in your team, they are essentially robbing the other guys in the team that desperately want that success. I think Neale's speech was speaking to that. Think about how important this is to most of your teammates. Don't be content with playing well yourself and winning the odd game. We have had such a shit club culture for so long, I think we still need reminders about what it's all about.

The analogy with his struggle with MND might have been a little stretched - but not massively so. Selflessness vs selfishness is a battle going on in most people every day. It's something everybody should think about occasionally. And having a goal that you're passionate about and 100% bought into, makes it easier to do the hard yards to get there.

I think it was a lot better than a lot of televised "motivational" speeches. Neeld's speech was inept. That one Sheedy gave where he kept exploding with random loud words was even worse. Neale's was on point, succinct, and married up with our club's association with the Fight-MND campaign. So, Neale's speech sits just fine with me. :thumbsu:
Yeah exactly, well said
 

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I don't think it's intended as a motivational speech (those things don't actually work no matter how inspiring the message/parallel is), it's a media production for the purpose of raising awareness for the cause and more funds. It's Neale's campaign and if that's how he wants to play it I don't see anything wrong with it.
 

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I'm bloody loving the mind games from the club in regards to roughing up JJ. All of Viney/Goodwin/Lewis have said we will have a Crack.

Now the dogs are going to be paranoid about sticking up for their mate so if it makes the game physical we will play out our best
 

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I wonder who will play on JJ? Should be interesting to see. Also been thinking whether the Dogs might play a defensive forward on Hunt. This is going to be a fast and furious game I reckon, looking forward to it.
 

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I wonder who will play on JJ? Should be interesting to see. Also been thinking whether the Dogs might play a defensive forward on Hunt. This is going to be a fast and furious game I reckon, looking forward to it.
Tommy Bugg and Harmes will give it to him all game.
If they try the same with Hunt I hope goody let's him roam forward a little more
 

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"It is with sadness that I inform this group about the passing away of a larger than life Demons member and supporter... HIBBY HIBBERT passed away yesterday of a heart attack. He got to see his beloved Dees beat the filth one more time before he left this world and he would of loved that.
Thoughts and condolences are with his family. A larger than life character.."

And I've only just reread the Surname then to read it correctly, Ive been misreading the whole time
 

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"It is with sadness that I inform this group about the passing away of a larger than life Demons member and supporter... HIBBY HIBBERT passed away yesterday of a heart attack. He got to see his beloved Dees beat the filth one more time before he left this world and he would of loved that.
Thoughts and condolences are with his family. A larger than life character.."

And I've only just reread the Surname then to read it correctly, Ive been misreading the whole time
Jesus mate you had me frantically searching the Internet thinking something happened to Michael Hibberd. Condolences to the family
 

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I'm bloody loving the mind games from the club in regards to roughing up JJ. All of Viney/Goodwin/Lewis have said we will have a Crack.

Now the dogs are going to be paranoid about sticking up for their mate so if it makes the game physical we will play out our best
I'm only really replying to you here because I have replaced my iPad with the new 2017 version of the iPad Pro - and it arrived in a little parcel today with his keyboard and an Apple Pencil and everything. I'm super excited and I'm trying out the keyboard right now which is why I'm able to cram in even more random words apropos of nothing in particular.

What's really cool is that the Apple Pencil is really good for drawing and there is some really neat software out that I've started playing with for sketching and drawing random shit. I'm pretty excited. I've had a bit of a play with it. I need some practice and to work out all the stuff you can do with it.

So what are you on about? Macho stuff, getting physical, having a crack etc. Yeah that would be good.

This iPad is unreal.
 

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I'm only really replying to you here because I have replaced my iPad with the new 2017 version of the iPad Pro - and it arrived in a little parcel today with his keyboard and an Apple Pencil and everything. I'm super excited and I'm trying out the keyboard right now which is why I'm able to cram in even more random words apropos of nothing in particular.

What's really cool is that the Apple Pencil is really good for drawing and there is some really neat software out that I've started playing with for sketching and drawing random shit. I'm pretty excited. I've had a bit of a play with it. I need some practice and to work out all the stuff you can do with it.

So what are you on about? Macho stuff, getting physical, having a crack etc. Yeah that would be good.

This iPad is unreal.
That's the closest I've seen to an ad since that spam bot was replying a little while back.. can't remember what it was selling
 
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