General TSL Talk

[jj15]

Club Ins and Out for 2023

Lauderdale

New Coach: Allen Christensen

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Allen Christensen

Age

34

Ht

176cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.4

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

8.4

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

4.2

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

Ins:

Phillip Bellchambers (North Shore)
Jason Gridley (Hobart)
Outs:
Lennon Marlin (Mainland)
Oscar Shaw (Overseas)
Will Poland (Sorell)
Bodhi Kingston (Sorell)
Sam Tilley (Woodville- West Torrens)
Harry Richmond

Kingborough

Ins:

Nic Baker (Sorell)
James Zeitzen (Cygnet)
Ryan Clark (Cygnet)
Reece Scotland (Cygnet)

Outs:

Brady Rees (QAFL)
Jordan Lane (Port Melbourne)
Zach Adams (Port Melbourne)
Luke Graham ( University)
Jackson Keogh ( Huonville)
Sam Duigan (Overseas)
Riley Ashlin (Overseas)


North Hobart

New Coach: Adam Bester

Ins:
Spencer White

Spencer White

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.0

5star

No current season stats available

D

6.0

2star

K

3.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.0

5star

(Vic)
Outs:

Will Splann (Central Districts)
Callum Kilpatrick (West Preston)
George McLeod (Sturt)
Lachie Dale ( Victoria)
Logan Elphingstone (Burnie)
Sam Caswell (QLD)
Callum Kilpatrick (Victoria)

Clarence

Ins:

Noah Holmes (DOSA)
Mitch Anderton (Sorell)

Outs:

Colin Garland

Colin Garland

Age

38

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.1

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

249.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.0

2star

K

2.8

1star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

(Retired)

Keren Howlett (Claremont)
Dylan Howlett (Claremont)
Jonte Doran ( University)
Jaques Barwick (Perth)
Lachie Borsboom ( Overseas)

Glenorchy

Ins:


Outs:
Tom Cleary (University)
Ben Kamaric (Brighton)
Adam Roberts (DOSA)
John Geard ( St Virgils)
Riley Oakley (St Virgils)

Launceston

Ins:

Outs:

Jay Blackberry (South Launceston)

Brendan Taylor (South Launceston)

Jake Smith (Rocherlea)

Michael Musicka ( Bracknell)

Cooper Warren ( Bracknell)

Josh Woolley ( Bracknell)

Miller Hodge ( Bracknell)

Jameson House ( Wynyard)

Jonty Mcivor ( Wynyard)

Fletcher Seymour ( Old Scotch)

Josiah Burling ( Perth)

Jett Maloney ( Longford)

Alex Wright (Norwood)

Jack Tuthill

North Launceston

Ins:

Outs:

Michael Stingel (Norwood)
Tom Bennett
Corey Nankervis

* will only add confirmed as there are obviously heaps of rumours out there.

* post here and I’ll add on

 

[Kingpin]

Kingpin, do you have the 2001 SFL ladder handy?!

 

[jj15]

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You forget how many teams were down from the Huon.
Dodges Ferry the new team with Channel and Kermandie no longer (aswell as others down that way).
Would love a two division competition.

 

[Barge]

Cheers Kingpin, I could’ve sworn Sorell did better than that. Ah well.

 

[Kingpin]

Cheers Kingpin, I could’ve sworn Sorell did better than that. Ah well.

They turned us over at Pembroke the first ever game of the Premier League, that I do recall.
Was Pluv's last year as coach

 

[butcherboy]

They turned us over at Pembroke the first ever game of the Premier League, that I do recall.
Was Pluv's last year as coach

pluv or pluggy?

 

[Kingpin]

pluv or pluggy?

Steve "Plover" Gillbee.
Big Brimma, Jonathan Brimfield was Sorell's coach that year.
Purely my opinion, but after Plover retired and finished as coach the club really changed and I don't think it ever recovered.

 

[GoldenMagpie16]

North Hobart by 20
North Launceston by 48
Launceston by 9

 

[jj15]

North Hobart by 20
North Launceston by 48
Launceston by 9

North Launceston by 80
Launceston by 30
Clarence 1

 

[madmug]

North Hobart by 20
North Launceston by 48
Launceston by 9

With all thats been going on & AFLTas knifing Tassie football agin, I hadn't been thinking much about winners/losers!!

Up to date I've only had a couple wrong. NH beat Lauderdale, Clarence getting belted by NL come to mind.

KT are looking good. C,L'ton,NL are always a chance, L'dale seem to lack a bit but too early to write them off, NHFC have improved, G certainly tried hard last week but too small & inexperienced.

I hope the TSL clubs can get the Government to help them fight back. We need the pathway.

 

[TassieFooty1]

Reports are that Brighton and Huonville have been offered the two spots in the SFL Premier League to join the five returning TSL clubs.
Brighton I totally understand, great junior numbers and facilities.
Huonville, on the other hand don’t have super strong junior numbers, the area isn’t growing overly fast compared to areas within Hobart and their ground/facilities aren’t anything to special.

 

[jj15]

Reports are that Brighton and Huonville have been offered the two spots in the SFL Premier League to join the five returning TSL clubs.
Brighton I totally understand, great junior numbers and facilities.
Huonville, on the other hand don’t have super strong junior numbers, the area isn’t growing overly fast compared to areas within Hobart and their ground/facilities aren’t anything to special.

It’s probably as they are set to not lose a game this year?
They have a 16.5s and 18s and reserves team which is better then Glenorchy.

 

[Barge]

Assuming Huonville go in to Div 1/Premier League or whatever it is called, it’ll be interesting to see how many stay on as they have an awful lot of ex Kingborough players at the club.

 

[jj15]

Assuming Huonville go in to Div 1/Premier League or whatever it is called, it’ll be interesting to see how many stay on as they have an awful lot of ex Kingborough players at the club.

Is Kieran Lovell a Huonville junior? I remember lovells playing there.

 

[Whowants2know]

Is Kieran Lovell a Huonville junior? I remember lovells playing there.

Played there until under 12s, then went up to Kingborough because Huonville couldn't fill a under 13s team, played at Kingborough until drafted.

 

[jj15]

Played there until under 12s, then went up to Kingborough because Huonville couldn't fill an under 13s team, played at Kingborough until drafted.

Huonville Div one with a player like him aligned to them when not playing Devils is how local clubs can become more professional and compete. Would be great for the community.

 

[TassieFooty1]

Huonville Div one with a player like him aligned to them when not playing Devils is how local clubs can become more professional and compete. Would be great for the community.

That’s very true, if they get all these things right it could make for outstanding outcomes like this example.

 

[Nicktheguy]

Hope Jordan Lane goes well in his VFL debut tomorrow for Port Melbourne.
SFL - TSL - VFL in 18 or so months, love that.

 

[Gibbke]

Promo and relegation would be OK for lower divisions, although it's still a shit concept, but the top division needs to stay settled. The other problem is travel. It's all very well seeing Scottsdale fall out of a division and saying "you're playing that group of teams now", but if that group is Longford, Perth, Bracknell and Evandale, that's a big ask for lower standard sides...you just can't keep the enthusiasm up to build a side, and that's how teams fold. The alternative is to plug away in your own group, but as an example, the thrashings that occur in both the Darwin Association and the NWFA, both comps right next to each other, make promo and relegation look like a positive. It's a tough conundrum, but you're better off ensuring the best players are in elite teams, and the rest have an even chance of winning. At the end of the day, it's all about what the team focus is, and if a team playing for the jumper gets thrashed against elite development focused sides every week, then there's a problem. Instead of Div 2 and Div 3, have NTFA Regional North and NTFA Regional South, or similar, and do the same thing in Hobart. It's tenuous these days, and you need every player more committed to staying for whatever their reasoning is...

In the north and south, I'd only have four teams each. If you're going regional, the standard can't be allowed to slip too far or you risk losing too many good players...if you can't play for the VFL Devils, a statewide development comp won't cut it, and you'll go to the mainland or just ditch it altogether...

North - Launceston, North, South and Rocherlea. North and Rocherlea would have to work out their east and north zones. Longford would probably bang the door down, but both they and Deloraine are country sides who haven't dominated their regional leagues...it took a long time for Longford to earn the status of reigning premiers! And Deloraine is a bit of a no man's land, which is why they've jumped between the N and the NW over the last century with little success...they just can't hang onto enough good players to be a force...

In the South, it's Clarence, Glenorchy, North Hobart and Kingborough. As a much bigger population, you could easily make a case for keeping Lauderdale, who've always been pros, and you'd think some up and comer would want in as the sixth. Someone mentioned Brighton...with no opposition up that end, maybe they'd do a better job solidifying the club and being competitive than they've shown in the last two decades...

The NW do their own thing, no problem. I love the idea of Circular Head being in there, but the reality is not looking great. It's been a long time since the CHFA and and the Saints both did well in the same season. We probably won't see East again, although I did hear a recent rumour. That six is still a good combo...

So - NTFA:
NTFA Premier - North, Lton, South and Rocherlea
NTFA North regional - GT, Hillwood, Bridport, Scottsdale, Lilydale, East Coast, Uni, Bridgenorth
NTFA South regional - Bracknell, Longford, Evandale, Deloraine, Perth, Meander Valley, St Pats, OSFC and OLFC

SFL:
Premier - Clarence, Glenorchy, North, Kingborough
SFL West - Cygnet, Huonville, New Norfolk, Claremont, Hobart + 1...could Sandy Bay make a comeback...?
SFL East - Lindisfarne, Sorell, Dodges, Brighton, Lauderdale + 1...maybe from the Oatlands DFA...?
IF Lauderdale ended up in the top league, either New Norfolk or Brighton would join them...if a four team elite isn't created, six v eight team comps would be better than two sevens. But no promo regardless...

NWFL as is. No one tells the NW what to do...!

 

[Ozguy]

SFL East - Lindisfarne, Sorell, Dodges, Brighton, Lauderdale + 1...maybe from the Oatlands DFA...?

Below 0% chance of that.

 

[Barge]

There’s no possible way in the current climate you could retain Glenorchy in the top southern division and relegate Lauderdale to division 2!

 

[Nicktheguy]

Lane kicked 3 on his VFL debut. Very promising. 2 set shots and a ripper snap from the boundary.

 

[jj15]

I just don’t get why you wouldn’t have the best 7 in one Div and the next 7 in another division.

Shouldn’t we be trying to make comps as even as possible? Actually promote getting the standard higher?

Travel is literally a non issue. New Norfolk go to Cygnet currently. That’s further then North Hobart to Cygnet.

 

[Cunnington Cartel]

Promo and relegation would be OK for lower divisions, although it's still a s**t concept, but the top division needs to stay settled. The other problem is travel. It's all very well seeing Scottsdale fall out of a division and saying "you're playing that group of teams now", but if that group is Longford, Perth, Bracknell and Evandale, that's a big ask for lower standard sides...you just can't keep the enthusiasm up to build a side, and that's how teams fold. The alternative is to plug away in your own group, but as an example, the thrashings that occur in both the Darwin Association and the NWFA, both comps right next to each other, make promo and relegation look like a positive. It's a tough conundrum, but you're better off ensuring the best players are in elite teams, and the rest have an even chance of winning. At the end of the day, it's all about what the team focus is, and if a team playing for the jumper gets thrashed against elite development focused sides every week, then there's a problem. Instead of Div 2 and Div 3, have NTFA Regional North and NTFA Regional South, or similar, and do the same thing in Hobart. It's tenuous these days, and you need every player more committed to staying for whatever their reasoning is...

In the north and south, I'd only have four teams each. If you're going regional, the standard can't be allowed to slip too far or you risk losing too many good players...if you can't play for the VFL Devils, a statewide development comp won't cut it, and you'll go to the mainland or just ditch it altogether...

North - Launceston, North, South and Rocherlea. North and Rocherlea would have to work out their east and north zones. Longford would probably bang the door down, but both they and Deloraine are country sides who haven't dominated their regional leagues...it took a long time for Longford to earn the status of reigning premiers! And Deloraine is a bit of a no man's land, which is why they've jumped between the N and the NW over the last century with little success...they just can't hang onto enough good players to be a force...

In the South, it's Clarence, Glenorchy, North Hobart and Kingborough. As a much bigger population, you could easily make a case for keeping Lauderdale, who've always been pros, and you'd think some up and comer would want in as the sixth. Someone mentioned Brighton...with no opposition up that end, maybe they'd do a better job solidifying the club and being competitive than they've shown in the last two decades...

The NW do their own thing, no problem. I love the idea of Circular Head being in there, but the reality is not looking great. It's been a long time since the CHFA and and the Saints both did well in the same season. We probably won't see East again, although I did hear a recent rumour. That six is still a good combo...

So - NTFA:
NTFA Premier - North, Lton, South and Rocherlea
NTFA North regional - GT, Hillwood, Bridport, Scottsdale, Lilydale, East Coast, Uni, Bridgenorth
NTFA South regional - Bracknell, Longford, Evandale, Deloraine, Perth, Meander Valley, St Pats, OSFC and OLFC

SFL:
Premier - Clarence, Glenorchy, North, Kingborough
SFL West - Cygnet, Huonville, New Norfolk, Claremont, Hobart + 1...could Sandy Bay make a comeback...?
SFL East - Lindisfarne, Sorell, Dodges, Brighton, Lauderdale + 1...maybe from the Oatlands DFA...?
IF Lauderdale ended up in the top league, either New Norfolk or Brighton would join them...if a four team elite isn't created, six v eight team comps would be better than two sevens. But no promo regardless...

NWFL as is. No one tells the NW what to do...!

I like the concept, but the lower divisions are too uneven. You can’t have clubs like Meander playing against Bracknell and Longford. Poor Bridport would probably go back into recess if they were getting pumped by clubs like Hillwood and Bridgenorth every second week. Be better off separating the comps by having the premier division clubs joined by a few of the stronger Div 1 clubs like Scotch and St Pats and then the smaller clubs like Uni, Meander, Bridport etc can be in their own division.

 

[Gibbke]

I like the concept, but the lower divisions are too uneven. You can’t have clubs like Meander playing against Bracknell and Longford. Poor Bridport would probably go back into recess if they were getting pumped by clubs like Hillwood and Bridgenorth every second week. Be better off separating the comps by having the premier division clubs joined by a few of the stronger Div 1 clubs like Scotch and St Pats and then the smaller clubs like Uni, Meander, Bridport etc can be in their own division.

Nah! The entire point of keeping an elite top division is to siphon off the talent and concentrate up high, for the express purpose of ensuring that the bridge between VFL and the top Tasmanian clubs is not as great as it was 15 years ago. At the end of the day, Meander Valley, Deloraine, Longford, Bridgenorth...all of them are smaller Tasmanian towns with no real population advantages over each other. Give it a few years, and there's no reason the better country sides wouldn't swap places. But the top teams need to stay there in that division - Launceston and North Launceston should always be a destination for a better northern footballer, Clarence and Glenorchy, etc the same down south...

 

[madmug]

Nah! The entire point of keeping an elite top division is to siphon off the talent and concentrate up high, for the express purpose of ensuring that the bridge between VFL and the top Tasmanian clubs is not as great as it was 15 years ago. At the end of the day, Meander Valley, Deloraine, Longford, Bridgenorth...all of them are smaller Tasmanian towns with no real population advantages over each other. Give it a few years, and there's no reason the better country sides wouldn't swap places. But the top teams need to stay there in that division - Launceston and North Launceston should always be a destination for a better northern footballer, Clarence and Glenorchy, etc the same down south...

Unless something dramatic happens, the structure looks like being a Northern comp, a southern comp & the NTFL.

That's 3 ordinary competitions which as you indicate, were a poor underpinning foe the last VFL adventure.