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Unsolved Gerard Ross - Abducted Kent st Rockingham WA 1997

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  1. Dan Baker

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    Gerard was abducted near Kent Street in Rockingham on the morning of October 14, 1997 with the intention of visiting a local comic book store.

    Police have received more than 70 calls to Crime Stoppers since Tuesday's fresh public appeal into the murder of Gerard Ross in Rockingham in 1997.
    "We ask those people to re-consider their position given the passage of time and potential changes in allegiances and circumstances."

    http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/p...about-gerard-ross-murder-20170119-gturd4.html
    Author: Phil Hickey

    There was allegedly no sexual assault with this case, but intense violence.

    Gerard was left in a Pine forest, discovered by a horse trainer by the name Miller at Baldivis and Stakehill Roads, Karnup, on October 28, 1997

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    There was dog hair on Gerards body. The Ross family had no dog, nor a dog where they were staying.

    Wonder what sort of dog it was? Wish they would elaborate on these matters.
     
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    Could have been a stray dog Dan or pet off leash found him and rolled. Animals will investigate this sort of thing, one of my own dogs tried to dig up his old deceased canine buddy in the yard. By the time I realised what he was doing he'd dug down so deep he'd found a corner his shroud and was tugging on it.

    It was a bit nightmarish actually.
     
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    I never thought of that, the possibility of a wild dog also in the pine forest. Domestic dogs run the forest also.

    But, there was no DNA on the body, or there was no DNA recovered. That means someone took measures?

    The dog fur was however pointed out by police who feel it was important factor. There was mentioned a beige cream coloured Datsun 260? in an a murder south of Perth. The girl, heroin

    Police also want help seeking the identify of the driver of a beige or cream coloured sedan

    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...s/news-story/784de08920f15a98690b15c629072437
     
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    Can't supply a link because I don't recall where I read it but the dogs hair was later stated as possibly not being of huge significance. Probably because they realised stray dogs were in the forest. If it's for example a white dog and they find a suspect with a white dog, it might then become significant.

    No DNA perhaps because there actually was no sexual assault or the police are holding back. Difficult to believe someone would abduct a boy to beat him to death but it's happened before, James Bulger the worst case ... maybe Gerard saw something and threatened to tell. I really do hope one day this is solved.
     
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    There was no sexual assault. It was pure violence apparently.

    Discovered by a horse trainer by the name Miller
     
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    Sources last night revealed that the youngster had been strangled and that police found a ligature around the boy's neck at the murder scene.

    The discovery was made by Aussie horse trainer Mick Miller, who stumbled upon Gerrard's corpse in dense pine forest 10 miles from where the youngster disappeared.

    He said: "I was riding along when my horse saw something in the bush and stopped in its tracks.

    "I suddenly spotted there was a body lying there. I had a look and realised the lad was dead."

    The investigation will centre on tyre tracks that led the up to the murder scene.
    https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Missing+Gerrard+found+strangled.-a061060415
     
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    Another article today:

    http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/w...lers-are-still-out-there-20170922-gyn884.html

    "We ask those people to re-consider their position given the passage of time and potential changes in allegiances and circumstances."

    "Why would you want to do that to a wee boy?"

    Who killed Gerard Ross?
     
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    WTF is wrong with these people. This was not a sexual assault.

    What makes the case of Gerard Ross all the more tragic is that police believe there are people in the WA community who know what happened, who hold vital information, but have remained silent.

    Exactly, who has loyalty to child murderers?

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    In November 1998, they published a book written and illustrated by Gerard, called Sock of the Year.

    http://www.mako.org.au/unsolved-crime-gerard-ross.html

    Timeline: Gerard Ross murder investigation
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-17/gerard-ross-murder-cold-case-timeline/8187904
    "A white ute is reported to have been seen in the area in suspicious circumstances."

    http://www.mako.org.au/unsolved-crime-gerard-ross.html
    As was a white ute reported in the case of Ciara to Crimestoppers, and a white ute allegedly seen by the neighbour on Miller road in the early hours of the morning
    *The Pippidinny witnesses couldnt come forth because they were apparently not supposed to be there.
     
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    A woman says she saw two men struggling with a boy on the day Gerard disappeared, but did not feel comfortable intervening.

    She describes two men aged in their mid 30s, one fair-haired, the other dark-haired with a faded maroon or brown station wagon.
     
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    Would be mid 50's now.

    Give or take.

    Station wagon.

    A white ute.

    Dog hair.

    DNA of canines - interesting scientific study right there.

    Question after question.

    Who killed Gerard Ross?
     
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    Police are called to a pine plantation near a munitions plant on Stake Hill Road in Karnup, about 20km away from Rockingham, after a man exercising his horse spots Gerard's fully-clothed body dumped near the side of the track.

    The body is not covered and the Homicide Squad is called in.

    There is money still in the boy's back pocket.

    The cause of death is not revealed to most of the police involved because it is so brutal.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-17/gerard-ross-murder-cold-case-timeline/8187904

    Police say Gerard's abduction and murder was a "crime of opportunity".

    They say the murderer must have "acted in haste".

    A white ute is reported to have been seen in the area in suspicious circumstances.
     
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    Gerard was quite big really, old enough to put up a fight. Trying to control Gerard while driving. Interesting scenario if it were one person.
     
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    So Gerard Ross was with his brother Malcolm just prior to his abduction and brutal murder.

    All Celtic names.

    Malcolm Ross.

    Malcolm is derived from the Scottish Máel Coluim which means "disciple of SaintCOLUMBA". This was the name of four kings of Scotland starting in the 10th century, including Malcolm III, who became king after killing Macbeth, the usurper who had murdered his father.

    http://www.behindthename.com/name/malcolm

    So Malcolm is named after Saint Columba.

    The Irish Saint who drove the pagans Picts out of Iona on Scotland.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columba

    Gripping read that.

    Iona is of course on the Mull of Ross.

    Iona Presentation College - victims of the CSK either attended or were associated with Iona.

    Then there is Steve Ross - the cab driver associated with SS in the CSK case.

    Malcolm Ross

    named after

    St Columba Ross

    Then of course there is the Clan Malcolm - named after St Columba of Iona.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Malcolm

    Another gripping read.

    Many other names after St Columba.

    Malcolm Ross


    Wouldn't want to be a Ross for quids! :huh:

    Particularly if you are named after St Columba.

    Sounds like a serious health hazard with that name.

    Who killed Gerard Ross?
     
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    And Jane Rimmer killed on St Columba day...

    You said, they celebrate St Columba day? I didnt know this. So potentially she was out celebrating the Saint day?
     
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    These cops are so stupid, Ill give them clues to where I live. They'll never work it out.
    Maybe something I learned about in primary school?

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    Bit hard during a week day. They actually have to be out celebrating. Its all within a couple of days

    The truth: According to St Patrick's Day lore, Patrick used the three leaves of a shamrock to explain the Christian holy trinity: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
    www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/st-patricks-day-2017-celebrate-irelands-patron-saint/


    Pro Deo Et Patria

    "Founded on 11 September 1907, the College is named after the Scottish Isle of Iona. Five Presentation Sisters from Kildare, Ireland, followed a call in the 1900s that brought them to Western Australia.

    Perth's first Bishop, Bishop Gibney, felt the Mosman Park site reminded him of the Isle of Iona in Scotland, where Irish Saint Columba (or Columcille) founded a community in 563AD. The Scottish Isle of Iona became a centre of learning from which Saint Columba set forth to spread the Gospel."
     
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    The Beautiful Knife, The Dark Tournament, Bright Spier in Dark Cloak. The Jane Doe Rymer.

    World of Warcraft anyone?
     
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    Seems circumstances have changed.

    No takers there by the looks of it Dan.

    Zero contribution from the fibbers.

    "It had to have military precision."

    Where did I read that?

    #immediategoals #kumbaya #boom
     
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    Nice use of latin there Dan

    Here is one of my favourites:

    "In ardua tendit"

    He aims at difficult things.

    Sounds like the Sisters were busy at Iona - gotta ask what the Brothers were up to?

    St Columba.

    #immediategoals #kumbaya #boom
     
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    DID slain 11-year-old Gerard Ross take a different path to the one police think he did the day he was killed? And who is still keeping a killer secret?

    http://www.news.com.au/national/wes...d/news-story/72aa29f54ade31a9e2b6c64cbe90e36b


    But a breakthrough in the unsolved case is exploring the possibility that he took a different path than the one initially investigated.

    Gerard disappeared on the morning of October 14, 1997, when he was heading to a shopping strip about 800m away from his family’s holiday home at Rockingham, which is now part of Perth.

    They were visiting from the far north Pilbara town of Newman but were originally from Scotland.

     
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