Unsolved Gerard Ross - Abducted Kent st Rockingham WA 1997

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Its an interesting insight into the broader picture and ongoing investigations in Australia as much globally. Groups of people.

Either way, police have stated on this occasion, that Gerards case is not one of sexual assault.

So what is it Grey Crow? So why has someone abducted Gerard Ross and beaten him profusely, so much so it affected officers?
Just wanted to find the relevance of your post. G Ross wasnt abducted for snuff parties nor pic swaps. For you to suggest says more about your sick disturbed thought process than anything
 

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Just wanted to find the relevance of your post. G Ross wasnt abducted for snuff parties nor pic swaps. For you to suggest says more about your sick disturbed thought process than anything
The motive of your posting? Looks like you get off on torture porn
See, the but-hurt comes out in you every time. Which really questions, what is the motive of your post? Whats eating you so much? You truly are a weirdo :)

I love it that whatever it is - that eats you so much. You expend so much energy. It will consume you. Stay cool bra!

You are so desperate. Its amazing. You are consistent with others too. The forum Grouch.

You must be so miserable.
 
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A woman says she saw two men struggling with a boy on the day Gerard disappeared, but did not feel comfortable intervening.

She describes two men aged in their mid 30s, one fair-haired, the other dark-haired with a faded maroon or brown station wagon.
Quoted in the ABC link:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-17/gerard-ross-murder-cold-case-timeline/8187904?pfmredir=sm

New witness comes forward

April 20, 1998


“A woman says she saw two men struggling with a boy on the day Gerard disappeared, but did not feel comfortable intervening.

She describes two men aged in their mid 30s, one fair-haired, the other dark-haired with a faded maroon or brown station wagon.

Police also reveal a dog may be linked to the case because dog hairs were found on the boy's body.”

Reportedly two adult males struggling with a little boy the same day 12 year old Gerard Ross goes missing.

Child killers.

Real brave.

Lowest of the low.

General population hate them.
 
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Quoted in the ABC link:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-17/gerard-ross-murder-cold-case-timeline/8187904?pfmredir=sm

New witness comes forward

April 20, 1998


“A woman says she saw two men struggling with a boy on the day Gerard disappeared, but did not feel comfortable intervening.

She describes two men aged in their mid 30s, one fair-haired, the other dark-haired with a faded maroon or brown station wagon.

Police also reveal a dog may be linked to the case because dog hairs were found on the boy's body.”

Reportedly two adult males struggling with a little boy the same day 12 year old Gerard Ross goes missing.

Child killers.

Real brave.

Lowest of the low.

General population hate them.
Child predators! The lowest of the low. Bashed a child senseless. A dog act.
 

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"In the late 1970s part of the magazine was leased out to a fireworks expert, who was unfortunately killed when his stock ignited. By the 1970s, with the growing population of Cockburn, then 25,000, there was a need to provide recreational facilities. Woodman Point was recognised as having recreation potential, so in 1984 the Mines Department relocated the explosives depot to Baldivis."
http://inherit.stateheritage.wa.gov...leRecord/855c07b9-21c9-4207-9701-df9731cb4125


TIMELINE: Schoolboy Gerard Ross was abducted while on holiday in Rockingham in 1997
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-17/gerard-ross-murder-cold-case-timeline/8187904


Last night at approx 0030, heard on the scanner about a ramraid on the ammo dump on 68th rd x Baldivis rd, numerous vehicles went including VR105, VR103, VR404 and some others, it was pelting down with rain and one of the vehicles got bogged. Just wanted to know if anbody knows what (if anything) was taken.
https://warsug.info/viewtopic.php?t=1331
 
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It sounds like a car might of been a significant point. But who knows till we are told.

But two PoIs were “hot”. Detectives felt so strongly about these men that it divided the taskforce.

One man was written off early but came under renewed scrutiny when new information came to light. News Corp does not know the nature of that information.

Police were ready to charge one local man after they found blood traces in his car and evidence that blood had been washed off a wall in a room at his home where he kept model aeroplanes. But the cleaning agent used prevented DNA from being extracted. Blood traces were also found at the suspect’s parents’ house.

The Director of Public Prosecutions wasn’t satisfied there was enough proof to proceed with charges.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-17/gerard-ross-murder-cold-case-timeline/8187904
 

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14 October 1997 was a Tuesday.

School holidays.

What time was Gerard last sighted?

Unless they were on leave that day, not a regular 9-5er so it would seem.
 

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With the talk about Rockingham taxi driver Vernon Silich and his cop father, was the father in the Fremantle Detectives or work with the folowing officers at the time of Gerard's murder?

https://www.watoday.com.au/national...lers-are-still-out-there-20170922-gyn884.html

Ex-cop and former Labor minister Bob Kucera was the Commander of the Fremantle police district in 1997, which at the time took in the Rockingham area.
Although he was not in charge of the day to day running of the original investigation - codenamed Operation Shoalwater - he had overall supervision of the inquiry for a period of time.

"It was a unique case in that it was something that hadn't happened before, a young boy going missing," Mr Kucera recalled. "It was almost (as if) someone had just spirited him away.


Inspector Frances John Bradman took over the Shoalwater Taskforce from Det SS Miller from Child Abuse Unit at Fremantle Detective as he testified in a RC hearing on another case. https://www.slp.wa.gov.au/publicati...AF2F53EFBDC48256C32003886E2/$file/S020912.pdf

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Seems the deaf and forgetful Robert George Silich was questioned in the same RC hearings, about covering up police assaults of suspects that occurred in Morley and Geralton Police Stations when he was in charge.

https://www.slp.wa.gov.au/publicati...5E9A4510E8448256CDA00120BBF/$file/S030219.pdf

Joined police in 1964, as a probationary constable. And after 4 years in uniform, went to the CIB, June 1968. And in the CIB for 23 years. During that time served in numerous squads. Retired in April 1996 just before retirement age at 54 and 4 days. You'd reached retirement age?---No. You retired for some other reason?---Yes. The then Commissioner, Bob Falconer, gave all commissioned officers an opportunity to retired and take a year's pay. I was going to retire at 55 but when I had an offer like that, I accepted it.

What squads did you pass through?---I was in the Breaking and Entering Squad, Company Fraud Squad and the Motor Squad, and just General Duties Squad. And the last 5 years of your career you were a commissioned officer serving where?---At Perth Regional Office, Central. Did you work for a period with Gary Higgins?---That's correct. Where?---At Geraldton CIB. When were you in Geraldton?---Well, Howe was charged with assault in 1979, and convicted in 1980 or 81, - - and, yeah; so that was all around 1980.

Had you worked with Detective Allen?---We were both in 79 Division in 1981.

And in late 1990 you were asked to investigate this particular matter (Assaults by Morley police officers)?---That's correct. Yes. And that request or direction came to you from Internal Affairs Unit?- - you conducted your investigation and prepared a report?---That's correct. And the report went from you to whom? - in Internals. Right. So it goes from you to your own superintendent and then Superintendent Selwood. Yes. So it goes from Superintendent Selwood then to the head of the CIB; is that right?---Yes. And who was that at the time?---Don Hancock. And from Mr Hancock, if it goes via that track, it then goes where?---Well, he - - he sends it back to Internals. Yes. All right. And the ultimate decision about whether the matter will go further or be written off is taken by whom?--- Well, that could have been done by either Hancock or Internals, and as in the report, they would advise that if they weren't happy they could complain to the Ombudsman, who could conduct further inquiries. Do you know if this matter went to the Ombudsman?---No. No, it did not.
 

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Seems the deaf and forgetful Robert George Silich was questioned in the same RC hearings, about covering up police assaults of suspects that occurred in Morley and Geralton Police Stations when he was in charge.

https://www.slp.wa.gov.au/publicati...5E9A4510E8448256CDA00120BBF/$file/S030219.pdf

Joined police in 1964, as a probationary constable. And after 4 years in uniform, went to the CIB, June 1968. And in the CIB for 23 years. During that time served in numerous squads. Retired in April 1996 just before retirement age at 54 and 4 days. You'd reached retirement age?---No. You retired for some other reason?---Yes. The then Commissioner, Bob Falconer, gave all commissioned officers an opportunity to retired and take a year's pay. I was going to retire at 55 but when I had an offer like that, I accepted it.

What squads did you pass through?---I was in the Breaking and Entering Squad, Company Fraud Squad and the Motor Squad, and just General Duties Squad. And the last 5 years of your career you were a commissioned officer serving where?---At Perth Regional Office, Central. Did you work for a period with Gary Higgins?---That's correct. Where?---At Geraldton CIB. When were you in Geraldton?---Well, Howe was charged with assault in 1979, and convicted in 1980 or 81, - - and, yeah; so that was all around 1980.

Had you worked with Detective Allen?---We were both in 79 Division in 1981.

And in late 1990 you were asked to investigate this particular matter (Assaults by Morley police officers)?---That's correct. Yes. And that request or direction came to you from Internal Affairs Unit?- - you conducted your investigation and prepared a report?---That's correct. And the report went from you to whom? - in Internals. Right. So it goes from you to your own superintendent and then Superintendent Selwood. Yes. So it goes from Superintendent Selwood then to the head of the CIB; is that right?---Yes. And who was that at the time?---Don Hancock. And from Mr Hancock, if it goes via that track, it then goes where?---Well, he - - he sends it back to Internals. Yes. All right. And the ultimate decision about whether the matter will go further or be written off is taken by whom?--- Well, that could have been done by either Hancock or Internals, and as in the report, they would advise that if they weren't happy they could complain to the Ombudsman, who could conduct further inquiries. Do you know if this matter went to the Ombudsman?---No. No, it did not.
Fortuitously, Bob Silich took an Early Retirement offer, before the corruption charges went to Court. Unfortunately it had no effect upon future fatal events.
http://thewest2.smedia.com.au/Olive...px?href=WAN/2008/04/10&id=Ar00500&sk=ABD6EDD5

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No sexual aspect to the crime. He was on holidays. Bashed to a pulp. Who bashes a young boy to a pulp and why?

Someone mentally disturbed. Someone who is angry...

What time was William Tyrell abducted? 10.00-10.30 on a week day. Friday.

"Gerard and his brother Malcolm left their holiday home on Kent Street at approximately 9.30am on October 14, 1997" (Tuesday)

"Shortly after passing 99 Kent Street, Gerard went missing."
 
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Weekday (Tuesday) on school holidays.

That narrows the suspect list.

Educators.
Self-employed.
Shift workers.
Unemployed.
Employed with minimal supervision or accountability.
9-5r on annual leave or sick leave.
Williams POIs had jobs which were highly dynamic residential call outs or kerb crawling. They were not out of place being anywhere. They had no accountability by a boss of where they might be. No one really would take a second look.

Their businesses were often untraceable cash. They drove vehicles which had no distinctive markings and dime a dozen on the road. A white Camry for instance, that was supposed to be crushed but given away to a neighbour apparently. So much so, police may have walked passed it parked at the neighbours house.

An excuse to be anywhere. Hard to track. Their camouflage was urban, hidden behind social contstruct.
 
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