Get Ready

[carn tigez]

The Tigers are going to start playing good, risk taking, fast, attacking footy either this week or the week after and here's why:

We only take the game on when we have nothing to lose! I only really realised this last week against Melbourne. Early on we just went down the wings, played stop-start footy and kept that up for the first 3 quarters. Then at 3 quarter time we were 5 goals down and it was obvious the only chance we had was to move it quickly. And that's what we did, and we win the quarter by 21(?) points.

Last year against the Dogs. We are against the odds all game so really we have nothing to lose, no one rated us a chance. So we play attacking risky footy and we are in front. 4 minutes left we have the lead, which is something to lose. So we try to save the game. And we lose it.

And even when you think about it last year on the whole, we started playing attacking after round 11 when we were 3-7 with a draw, and once again nothing to lose.

This season everyone thought we were a chance to play finals and so on the whole TW and the players see the finals spot as something to lose. So instead of taking risks and possibly losing games, we try to save the season from the start and **** it up. Now we are 0-4 the season is effectively gone, so Richmond are going to start running down the middle, taking the game on and we will start winning. If we manage to get to 8-8 or around there, we will go back to playing defensive and trying NOT TO LOSE, instead of trying to win.

It annoys the shit out of me but it is a fact, and it needs to change. But tbh I can't see this changing under TW. At least the bright side is we will win a few games, only to be gutted when we finish 1-2 games outside the top 8 again.

 

[coke_zero]

if we win this week i will still rate us a fair chance of finals. agree melbourne won because it didnt matter if the lose, but we had to win. and out foot skills cost us. we need to play every match with desperation for the ball and not slack off because we start to get a lead.

 

[tigertiger]

i think that this year was a year were we would finish higher then next year our list has a weird age grouping and the true strength of our list wont hit its straps until season 2011 onwards. If things went well this year we could do well but it was always going to be an abiration. Im not sure now how our season is going to unfold but i know one thing for sure we are playing well below par at the moment and have a lot of room for improvement with cousins, johnson, coughlin, cotchin, raines and tambling missing from our best 22. quality attacking football is contagiouse in a team and once it clicks we will do well again. From what I have seen we seem to be suffering from a seriouse case of underconfidence and I beleive this is the coaching teams fault and they need to fix it so Terry you need to find a way to lift the teams confidence.

Fortunatly I have been out of the country for the first 4 weeks of the season so havent had to deal with the pain of watching the tigers loosing. Hopefully when I return next week we start to play to our potential.

 

[Rosstickle]

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Tambling was missing because he is not in our best 22

 

[bollo]

tigertiger, you an many other supporters are still making excuses like we didnt have johnson(the man is 30yrs old his best is past, and his best was receiving the ball from the outside at adelaide) we didnt have coughlan(he has been out for so long that its time to come to terms that the reality is he may not be up to it now an wont be the difference of us making finals) we didnt have cousins( no doubt he is a good player but what happens if he cant get his body right, he is 30yrs old too) we didnt have raines(not sold on the bloke, has a dip cant knock him for that, but his decision making an footskills under the pump arent up to scratch) we didnt have cotchin( the guy is 19yrs old and i believe is the next ablett jr, but its not up to him to have all this pressure on him) we didnt have tambling( time for the guy to be traded, the more we have him on show the lower the return pick will be) we wont win this week because for too long this club has accepted "allright players" not "excellent players". we celebrate mediocrity, example: last year, we are 9th again an happy with it, hawks won a flag, bulldogs nearly knocked off geelong in the prelim. also we are stoked to beat hawthorn who 3yrs before were in no better position. ill be there but i wont be expecting a win

 

[tigertiger]

tigertiger, you an many other supporters are still making excuses like we didnt have johnson(the man is 30yrs old his best is past, and his best was receiving the ball from the outside at adelaide) we didnt have coughlan(he has been out for so long that its time to come to terms that the reality is he may not be up to it now an wont be the difference of us making finals) we didnt have cousins( no doubt he is a good player but what happens if he cant get his body right, he is 30yrs old too) we didnt have raines(not sold on the bloke, has a dip cant knock him for that, but his decision making an footskills under the pump arent up to scratch) we didnt have cotchin( the guy is 19yrs old and i believe is the next ablett jr, but its not up to him to have all this pressure on him) we didnt have tambling( time for the guy to be traded, the more we have him on show the lower the return pick will be) we wont win this week because for too long this club has accepted "allright players" not "excellent players". we celebrate mediocrity, example: last year, we are 9th again an happy with it, hawks won a flag, bulldogs nearly knocked off geelong in the prelim. also we are stoked to beat hawthorn who 3yrs before were in no better position. ill be there but i wont be expecting a win

30 isnt the cut off age for footballers, the league is full of 30 year olds that are far better then underskilled 20 year olds. We finished 9th last year but we finished last the year before id say thats a fair improvement.

The balance of our playing list has been scewed for some time because we culled out the bad middle aged players we had and did not have a crop of quality 22 year old players. We turned over 12 players on our list the first year wallace came on board and another 11 the year after. Id say thats not accepting allright players id say that is re-inventing a list.

Doing well this year was always going to be a bonus and I still think we will run the season out well and make the finals but the work that has been done with our list over the last 5 years was never going to show its full strength for another couple of years when the changing of the guard fully took its hold and the 18 and 19 year olds drafted in 2005 and 6 really began to mature.

 

[UpTheGuts]

It is is going to be very exciting.... looking forward to it.

Love my Tiges

 

[Bifrost]

I tell you what - I'm bloody getting ready!!!

For the first time in my life, I'm going to be attending the next 2 straight Richmond games. Oh yeah!

Living in Sydney makes it tough to get to a game, but I always attend the Sydney game (if there is one) and I try to get to 1 game in Melbourne per year and this week is 2009's game, then the Tigers are coming to me! Sweet.

COME ON TIGERS!!!

 

[bollo]

30 isnt the cut off age for footballers, the league is full of 30 year olds that are far better then underskilled 20 year olds. We finished 9th last year but we finished last the year before id say thats a fair improvement.

ok well i should of said that im not suggesting that 30yr olds are no longer required in our game, because u are right there are many of them still with a large input at there clubs, richo the prime example. but can u give me an example of any other 30+yr old players that are still the most important part of there club like richo?

what im getting at is that we have many older players at our club that get games on there name and experience and not form. these players need to be told that near enough is not good enough. last year joel bowden was sent back to coburg, had he been 20yrs old playing as he was he would have not been made terrys scapegoat. this would of embarrased joel alot an got him going. look what happened when he came back, he had a new role and won 3 games for us. but again this year we send him back to defence and drop thursfield to coburg and imo buggered up our defensive structure. maybe others should be sent back also.

i would cop losing each week if we werent persisting with players who look like they dont want to be out there eg mcmahon, shultz, bowden and co. why does terry refuse to play young blokes like connors collins hughes putt gourdis jon etc. its easy for everyone to say they arent up to it but how do we know if they arent selected to play seniors. the reason is they get one game and get dropped then the next time they come in they are too scared to make a mistake and are dropped again, how does this instill confidence among our young draftees. prime example of this is shultz, in and out of the side from position to position. maybe if left in one position for a season he would of been able to learn his trade as a forward. instead he has been in and out from forward to back he is in limbo. polo is now bein given consistent games and he is improving every week and has a go. if you can remember hawks with roughhead, he was shocking week after week but they persisted with him and he got confidence and believed he could do it and now is a top afl forward.

my point is if terry and the coaches dont believe that they arent up to the level why were they drafted. the problem goin on under terry is he has not created competetiveness amongst the list for a spot each week therefore among the players you see no tackling no pressure no give all you have for the jumper. what should be done is put all players on notice no matter who you are, week efforts will not be excepted any longer

 

[striped]

We only take the game on when we have nothing to lose!

you have only just figured this out ?

ok well i should of said that im not suggesting that 30yr olds are no longer required in our game, because u are right there are many of them still with a large input at there clubs, richo the prime example. but can u give me an example of any other 30+yr old players that are still the most important part of there club like richo?

off the top of my head .....
simon black
lloyd (he fires, bombers are harder to beat)
boomer harvey
tredrea the spanner (lets face it ... will be a major part if they continue to do ok)
lenny hayes .... he might be 29 ?? have to be close to 30
kirk
hall
bj

could be more but enough here that proves your talking rubbish. honestly all this talk about our older players, lets look at what should happen at the end of the year. kj - retire. bowden - retire. brown - retire. simmonds - delist. richo - whatever he chooses to do. if this happens, as it should, how many 30+ players will we have. f*ck all, bar richo & cuz.

 

[bollo]

all those players you have mentioned bar lloyd hall johnson(last years)hayes is 29, still stand up when the pressure is on week in week out. so there club can afford to keep them there but are any of those players realistically going to play in a gf soon except johnson, through no effort of his own.

my point is with richmond is bar richo none of these guys are matchwinners none are consistent none perform and lead the way when we are down thus where do our younger players learn from if not the older players. bowden can get 43 touches if he wants, none are earned and none are damaging, obviously because melbourne beat us. kane johnson nathan brown, simmons and bowden all week as piss and when it comes to the crunch they will let you down, always have always will. we have created a culture of celebrating our older players instead of saying these guys arent going to take us to the next level because they havnt in the entire time they have been there. so why are they still there year after year. yes they may go this year but why does it take this long. if they were 22-24 they would be sitting at coburg if lucky

 

[Rosstickle]

. kane johnson nathan brown, simmons and bowden all week as piss and when it comes to the crunch they will let you down, always have always will.

Remember rounds 8 & 9 of 2005?

Browny may be past it now but to say he has never lifted when he was needed is just wrong.

 

[smasha]

We have all "got ready" for 29 years.

My disco suit has cobwebs on it and I have a beard and hair the envy of India.

 

[bollo]

i should not have to remember 4yrs ago as to what they have done, i should be seeing it each week i show up hoping that this week is the week they do something, i think its only fair to the members who year in year out pay money to watch these guys run around like hairy goats and dont perform for the ammount of money they command. i suppose its not there fault, if the board made a stand and said this is what your worth and if you dont like it, go to freo, they will pay it.

i thought the saying was 'you pay peanuts you get monkeys' not 'pay big money and get monkeys'

 

[carn tigez]

We have all "got ready" for 29 years.

My disco suit has cobwebs on it and I have a beard and hair the envy of India.

All of us? I don't think so