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you are wrong on Obrien. we wont go near him with our first.
 
getgaff said:
Appreciate the feedback. What's your thoughts on Sydney's first pick?
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Obrien not competitive or contested enough for a first rounder.

my ideal would be hunter clark. if not I think constable will be there and we will take him to play in defence so mills can move into the midfield. when jpk retires hopefully constable can take his place.
 

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6yearsold said:
Obrien not competitive or contested enough for a first rounder.

my ideal would be hunter clark. if not I think constable will be there and we will take him to play in defence so mills can move into the midfield. when jpk retires hopefully constable can take his place.
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Constable and Clark are around about that Sydney pick so that's a fair call.

For what it's worth you'd hope that they are both available at pick 14 otherwise West Coast should be snapping up the one that isn't available. You never know with Rohan O'Brien but.
 
ROUND 3 picks 39 to 56 are in

**Will further update the second round post tonight because there's been some changes made in that second round**

PICK 39: Collingwood - SAM TAYLOR (KEY DEFENDER from Swan Districts)
PICK 40: Adelaide - BRANDON STARCEVICH (GENERAL FWD/ INSIDE MID from East Perth)
PICK 41: Gold Coast - JORDAN HOULAHAN (MEDIUM FWD from Sturt)
PICK 42: Fremantle - HUGH DIXON (TALL FWD from Kinsborough, TAS)
PICK 43: Hawthorn - BRAYDEN AINSWORTH (INSIDE MID from Subiaco)
Pick 44: St. Kilda - BAILEY FRITSCH (MEDIUM FWD/ OUTSIDE WING-HALF BACK from Casey Demons)
Pick 45: Port Adelaide - ANDREW McPHERSON (MEDIUM DEF from Woodville W/T)
Pick 46: Melbourne - BEN PATON (MEDIUM DEF from Murray)
PICK 47: GWS (MATCH ESSENDON BID) - NICHOLAS SHIPLEY (GWS ACADEMY, INSIDE MID from St. George/ NSW)
PICK 48: Essendon - WILL WALKER (MEDIUM FWD/ INSIDE MID from Sandringham)
PICK 49: Port Adelaide - ALEX MARTINI (GENERAL DEF from Sturt)
PICK 50: Gold Coast - JACKSON ROSS (OUTSIDE MID from Eastern Ranges)
PICK 51: Sydney - KYRON HAYDEN (INSIDE MID from Subiaco)
PICK 52: Brisbane - TOM McCARTIN (3rd TALL FWD from Geelong Falcons)
Pick 53: Richmond - DOM BARRY (OUTSIDE MID from Glenelg)
Pick 54: Brisbane (MATCH GOLD COAST BID) - JACK PAYNE (BRISBANE ACADEMY, KEY DEFENDER from Noosa)
Pick 55: Gold Coast - OSCAR CLAVARINO (TALL/ KEY DEFENDER from Dandenong)
Pick 56: Richmond - NATHAN KREUGER (3rd TALL/ KEY FWD from South Adeaide)


 
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PICK 39: COLLINGWOOD - SAM TAYLOR (KEY DEFENDER / 195 CM, 85 KG / SWAN DISTRICTS / 05.05.1999)

WHY: Best draft age key defender available. Good size about him, competes hard and has scope for improvement when he matures into his body.

PICK 40: ADELAIDE - BRANDON STARCEVICH (GEN. FWD - INSIDE MID / 186 CM, 84 KG / EAST PERTH / 24.07.1999)

WHY: Powerful bodied player who is dangerous as a general forward and thrives on the midfield contest when thrown there. Wouldn't mind him at all with one of West Coast's picks in the 30's but instead went with the better overall player in Worpel.

PICK 41: GOLD COAST - JORDAN HOULAHAN (MEDIUM FWD / 185 CM, 78 KG / STURT / 19.01.1999)

WHY: Based on talent Houlahan is more of a late first to mid second round select but can present with a demeanour of nonchalance about his play and needs to work harder on his production/ getting involved in the game.

Think as that medium size forward that can play taller with his excellent vertical jump and tendency to want to fly high for marks that the Suns are a good fit for him. Real spark and x factor in his junior career, how it translates into senior footy is a wait and see.

PICK 42: FREMANTLE - HUGH DIXON (TALL FWD / 195 CM, 92 KG / KINGSBOROUGH, TAS / 26.02.1999)

WHY: Compliments the Naughton first round draft pick with an athletic taller forward, showing there is plenty of upside left in Dixon

Athletic taller forward who covers the ground well and has scope to play through the midfield potenially in the future. Can see him settling into a 3rd Tall/ CHF role at AFL level but using his ability to cover the ground to it's greatest strength.

PICK 43: HAWTHORN - BRAYDEN AINSWORTH (INSIDE MID / 184 CM, 79 KG / SUBIACO / 21/12/1998)

WHY: High production midfielder who is at the best around the contest and stoppages where he works hard and uses his hands to shoot the ball out effectively. Brings professionalism on and off the field.

Good exposure at WAFL reserves level in 2017 in his first season playing footy in Perth after moving from Country WA where he was playing senior footy as a middle age teen.

PICK 44: ST. KILDA - BAILEY FRITSCH (MEDIUM FWD / 187 CM, 80 KG / CASEY SCORPIONS / 06.12.1996)

WHY: Fritsch is the type of player that would be able to step straight into a HF role for St. Kilda and allow players like Billings and maybe Gresham to play more midfield minutes.

Loves a high mark and at ground level has speed, a long kick and is nippy around goals.

PICK 45: PORT ADELAIDE - ANDREW McPHERSON (MEDIUM DEF / 186 CM, 79 KG / WOODVILLE WEST TORRENS / 05.03.1999)

WHY: Seen a number of phantom drafts with West Coast drafting McPherson at 38 which is fair enough because he is a quality half back who would be ranked higher if not for an injury interrupted 2017 season but I'm not so sure it is a list need ahead of midfielders and small forwards.

Similar to a Witherden from the 2016 draft whose draft stocks slid because of a bad leg injury McPherson suffered quad and hammy injuries, only playing a handful of colts games for W.W.T before re-injuring his hamstring in the Under 18 Grand Final again. Prototype for the modern day rebound half back he reads the play well, has good skills and good endurance.

PICK 46: MELBOURNE - BEN PATON (MEDIUM DEF / 186 CM, 78 KG / MURRAY BUSHRANGERS / 19.10.1998)

WHY: Think Paton could turn into another Michael Hibberd type of defender for the Demons in the longer term. Shortm term will see him build his experience at Casey.

After being more of a forward and mid in his junior career went to the backline as a rebounding defender in 2017 with great success, finishing second in the Bushrangers B & F, playing all games in the Champs for VC and being named in the All Australian team after the Championships.

PICK 47: GWS ACADEMY selection (ESSENDON bid, GWS MATCH) - NICHOLAS SHIPLEY (INSIDE MID / 188 CM, 93 KG, ST. GEORGE DRAGONS - GWS ACADEMY / 25.06.1999)

WHY: Powerful bodied midfielder who is still relatively new to the game having crossed from age soccer at the age of 15.

Uses his superior size to a lot of his opponents to great effect whether it's bursting through the midfield pack, resting forward or using his speed and endurance to be a damaging player off half back.

Will go down as the first Academy selection out of the Western Sydney area after the Giants have picked apart NSW Country in the past few seasons.

PICK 48: ESSENDON - WILL WALKER (HALF FWD - MIDFIELD / 186 CM, 78 KG / SANDRINGHAM DRAGONS / 30/03/1999)

WHY: After a unsuccessful bid on Shipley I think it's clear that I wanted to add some midfield grunt to the Bombers with there first pick.

Not as strong with his contested ball winning number as Shipley but he is still strong in the contest with his speed and ability to dart out of traffic and get the ball forward.

Still raw with plenty of upside. scope for learning and understanding the game craft as like Shipley he came from a Soccer back ground.

As he understands the game more his contested ball numbers will improve after going at about 40% contested VS uncontested in 2017.

PICK 49: PORT ADELAIDE - ALEX MARTINI (SMALL DEF / 181 CM, 77 KG / GLENELG / 30.03.1999)

WHY: A bit of an Impey replacement numerically into the Port team.

Provides a lot of run off HB and possibly allows other drfatee McPherson to be more of a midfielder longer term. Distributes the ball well and makes good decisions.

Great courage and not afraid to stand in a hole in front of a bigger forward.

PICK 50: GOLD COAST - JACKSON ROSS (OUTSIDE MID / 192 CM, 75 KG / EASTERN RANGES / 22.06.1999)

WHY: Ross is a bit of a slider for me largely because of his lack of size and thus inconsistency and he still has a bit to learn in games of game awareness which is to be expected given he has only played the game competitively for two seasons, was previously an elite tennis player.

The upside in this is his scope for improvement especially in a professional environment and for a player who hasn't been brought up in the game his kicking efficiency is terrific, highlighted by a 29/30 result in the kicking test at the combine and a perfect score of 30 in the goal kicking test.

Will be a project player who spends plenty of time in the seconds wherever he goes but the scope for upside in a professional environment is huge.

PICK 51: SYDNEY - KYRON HAYDEN (INSIDE MID / 185 CM, 88 KG / SUBIACO / 06.06.1999

WHY: Originally went with Clavarino here but thought better of it after considering what the Swans like.

Powerfully built midfielder who attacks the ball and contest with vigour akin to Powell Pepper at Port and you can draw a lot of comparisons between the two boys and how they play.

Had a modified 2017 after his 2016 season was wrecked with injuries but was a key player in WA's State Under 18 team, made his senior debut at WAFL level for Subiaco which is no easy task given the strength in that side and tested well in the standing and vertical jumps in particular at the combine.

Won't be as ready made as Powell Pepper was in 2017 but with time I'm sure he can developed into a strong presence at the contest for Sydney.

PICK 52: BRISBANE - TOM McCARTIN (TALL FWD / 193 CM, 84 KG / GEELONG FALCONS / 30.12.1999)

WHY: Tall forward in the mould of Tom Lynch at Adelaide.

Different player to brother Paddy at St. Kilda and relise more on his athleticism and ability to move over the ground than being a more power forward. Compared with Paddy in that there are both well sized, have strong hands and play the game without fear.

For Brisbane Tom is a different type of forward to what they already have because of that athletic ability, Hipwood is very gifted athletically but with his height is better suited to a key posiiton role in the future and not a third tall.

One of the youngest in the draft crop due to his birthday being on the 30th of December and will still complete Year 12 studies in Victoria next year. That shouldn't disturb a club from drafting him however when you look at in a long term perspective.

McCartin compliments the KPP Academy picks of Ballenden and the upcoming Payne as well.

PICK 53: RICHMOND - DOM BARRY (OUTSIDE MID / 180 CM, 76 KG / GLENELG / 07.03.1994)

WHY: Gets a second chance in the AFL after spending some time on Melbourne's list a few seasons back.

Left the Demons to "find himself" and his indigenous culture a bit after being away from family since he was a teenager but returned back into the elite system via the SANFL this year and showed he hadn't lost the class and break away speed, particularly in space, that he had at Melbourne.

Think Richmond is an ideal place for him to be drafted to and with a good pre season could find himself in and around the Tigers AFL side.

PICK 54: BRISBANE ACADEMY selection (GOLD COAST bid, BRISBANE MATCH) - JACK PAYNE (KEY DEFENDER / 196 CM, 96 KG / NOOSA - BRISBANE ACADEMY / 15.10.1999)

WHY: Along with Harris Andrews should be part of the Brisbane Lions spine for the next decade.

Has a bit to learn in terms of his defensive positioning which will be developed well at the elite level and even though they play different roles it may be a role where Luke Hodge can take the young fella under his wing a bit.

Has the power to match the big forwards but the speed and nous at ground level to be effective as well. For a young key defender where their disposal by foot can cause some fans to cover there eyes and hope for the best he seems to be a good kick as well, registering 29/30 in the field kicking test at the combine.

PICK 55: GOLD COAST - OSCAR CLAVARINO (KEY DEFENDER / 195 CM, 85 KG / DANEDONG STRINGRAYS / 22.05.1999)

WHY: Clavarino is a tough one to predict where he goes and such has slid a little for some maybe. Along with Petty and Taylor they are the next level of KPD's in the draft behind Naughton and the more physically imposing Brander and Balta.

Good reader of the play which makes him a very effective intercept and rebounding defender. When kicking the ball from defence is a safe kick taker which makes his disposal efficiency numbers better than what they would be if he didn't take the safer option so much.

Still has a lot of work to do on building his body size which obviously didn't get exposed so much at Under 18 and Championship level but against bigger bodies he gets rag dolled like against the Northern Blues in the AFL Academy series.

There are some experts who rate Clavarino much higher and with his disciplined defence, ability to intercept mark, read the play and rebound from the back half that is a fair call, you know what you will get from Oscar and he is reliable.

PICK 56: RICHMOND - NATHAN KREUGER (TALL FWD / 196 CM, 89 KG / SOUTH ADELAIDE / 25.06.1999)

WHY: An athletically gifted tall at either end, I probably see him more as a forward, he adds a different dimension to the Tigers tall draft with Brander and Hayes drafted already.

Still raw and needs to put some size on but I think if played in his right position and allowed to use his running power to effect, best used as a high half fwd/ 3rd tall, he can be very effective at AFL level.
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getgaff said:
PICK 39: COLLINGWOOD - SAM TAYLOR (KEY DEFENDER / 195 CM, 85 KG / SWAN DISTRICTS / 05.05.1999)

WHY: Best draft age key defender available. Good size about him, competes hard and has scope for improvement when he matures into his body.

PICK 40: ADELAIDE - BRANDON STARCEVICH (GEN. FWD - INSIDE MID / 186 CM, 84 KG / EAST PERTH / 24.07.1999)

WHY: Powerful bodied player who is dangerous as a general forward and thrives on the midfield contest when thrown there. Wouldn't mind him at all with one of West Coast's picks in the 30's but instead went with the better overall player in Worpel.

PICK 41: GOLD COAST - JORDAN HOULAHAN (MEDIUM FWD / 185 CM, 78 KG / STURT / 19.01.1999)

WHY: Based on talent Houlahan is more of a late first to mid second round select but can present with a demeanour of nonchalance about his play and needs to work harder on his production/ getting involved in the game.

Think as that medium size forward that can play taller with his excellent vertical jump and tendency to want to fly high for marks that the Suns are a good fit for him. Real spark and x factor in his junior career, how it translates into senior footy is a wait and see.

PICK 42: FREMANTLE - HUGH DIXON (TALL FWD / 195 CM, 92 KG / KINGSBOROUGH, TAS / 26.02.1999)

WHY: Compliments the Naughton first round draft pick with an athletic taller forward, showing there is plenty of upside left in Dixon

Athletic taller forward who covers the ground well and has scope to play through the midfield potenially in the future. Can see him settling into a 3rd Tall/ CHF role at AFL level but using his ability to cover the ground to it's greatest strength.

PICK 43: HAWTHORN - BRAYDEN AINSWORTH (INSIDE MID / 184 CM, 79 KG / SUBIACO / 21/12/1998)

WHY: High production midfielder who is at the best around the contest and stoppages where he works hard and uses his hands to shoot the ball out effectively. Brings professionalism on and off the field.

Good exposure at WAFL reserves level in 2017 in his first season playing footy in Perth after moving from Country WA where he was playing senior footy as a middle age teen.

PICK 44: ST. KILDA - BAILEY FRITSCH (MEDIUM FWD / 187 CM, 80 KG / CASEY SCORPIONS / 06.12.1996)

WHY: Fritsch is the type of player that would be able to step straight into a HF role for St. Kilda and allow players like Billings and maybe Gresham to play more midfield minutes.

Loves a high mark and at ground level has speed, a long kick and is nippy around goals.

PICK 45: PORT ADELAIDE - ANDREW McPHERSON (MEDIUM DEF / 186 CM, 79 KG / WOODVILLE WEST TORRENS / 05.03.1999)

WHY: Seen a number of phantom drafts with West Coast drafting McPherson at 38 which is fair enough because he is a quality half back who would be ranked higher if not for an injury interrupted 2017 season but I'm not so sure it is a list need ahead of midfielders and small forwards.

Similar to a Witherden from the 2016 draft whose draft stocks slid because of a bad leg injury McPherson suffered quad and hammy injuries, only playing a handful of colts games for W.W.T before re-injuring his hamstring in the Under 18 Grand Final again. Prototype for the modern day rebound half back he reads the play well, has good skills and good endurance.

PICK 46: MELBOURNE - BEN PATON (MEDIUM DEF / 186 CM, 78 KG / MURRAY BUSHRANGERS / 19.10.1998)

WHY: Think Paton could turn into another Michael Hibberd type of defender for the Demons in the longer term. Shortm term will see him build his experience at Casey.

After being more of a forward and mid in his junior career went to the backline as a rebounding defender in 2017 with great success, finishing second in the Bushrangers B & F, playing all games in the Champs for VC and being named in the All Australian team after the Championships.

PICK 47: GWS ACADEMY selection (ESSENDON bid, GWS MATCH) - NICHOLAS SHIPLEY (INSIDE MID / 188 CM, 93 KG, ST. GEORGE DRAGONS - GWS ACADEMY / 25.06.1999)

WHY: Powerful bodied midfielder who is still relatively new to the game having crossed from age soccer at the age of 15.

Uses his superior size to a lot of his opponents to great effect whether it's bursting through the midfield pack, resting forward or using his speed and endurance to be a damaging player off half back.

Will go down as the first Academy selection out of the Western Sydney area after the Giants have picked apart NSW Country in the past few seasons.

PICK 48: ESSENDON - WILL WALKER (HALF FWD - MIDFIELD / 186 CM, 78 KG / SANDRINGHAM DRAGONS / 30/03/1999)

WHY: After a unsuccessful bid on Shipley I think it's clear that I wanted to add some midfield grunt to the Bombers with there first pick.

Not as strong with his contested ball winning number as Shipley but he is still strong in the contest with his speed and ability to dart out of traffic and get the ball forward.

Still raw with plenty of upside. scope for learning and understanding the game craft as like Shipley he came from a Soccer back ground.

As he understands the game more his contested ball numbers will improve after going at about 40% contested VS uncontested in 2017.

PICK 49: PORT ADELAIDE - ALEX MARTINI (SMALL DEF / 181 CM, 77 KG / GLENELG / 30.03.1999)

WHY: A bit of an Impey replacement numerically into the Port team.

Provides a lot of run off HB and possibly allows other drfatee McPherson to be more of a midfielder longer term. Distributes the ball well and makes good decisions.

Great courage and not afraid to stand in a hole in front of a bigger forward.

PICK 50: GOLD COAST - JACKSON ROSS (OUTSIDE MID / 192 CM, 75 KG / EASTERN RANGES / 22.06.1999)

WHY: Ross is a bit of a slider for me largely because of his lack of size and thus inconsistency and he still has a bit to learn in games of game awareness which is to be expected given he has only played the game competitively for two seasons, was previously an elite tennis player.

The upside in this is his scope for improvement especially in a professional environment and for a player who hasn't been brought up in the game his kicking efficiency is terrific, highlighted by a 29/30 result in the kicking test at the combine and a perfect score of 30 in the goal kicking test.

Will be a project player who spends plenty of time in the seconds wherever he goes but the scope for upside in a professional environment is huge.

PICK 51: SYDNEY - KYRON HAYDEN (INSIDE MID / 185 CM, 88 KG / SUBIACO / 06.06.1999

WHY: Originally went with Clavarino here but thought better of it after considering what the Swans like.

Powerfully built midfielder who attacks the ball and contest with vigour akin to Powell Pepper at Port and you can draw a lot of comparisons between the two boys and how they play.

Had a modified 2017 after his 2016 season was wrecked with injuries but was a key player in WA's State Under 18 team, made his senior debut at WAFL level for Subiaco which is no easy task given the strength in that side and tested well in the standing and vertical jumps in particular at the combine.

Won't be as ready made as Powell Pepper was in 2017 but with time I'm sure he can developed into a strong presence at the contest for Sydney.

PICK 52: BRISBANE - TOM McCARTIN (TALL FWD / 193 CM, 84 KG / GEELONG FALCONS / 30.12.1999)

WHY: Tall forward in the mould of Tom Lynch at Adelaide.

Different player to brother Paddy at St. Kilda and relise more on his athleticism and ability to move over the ground than being a more power forward. Compared with Paddy in that there are both well sized, have strong hands and play the game without fear.

For Brisbane Tom is a different type of forward to what they already have because of that athletic ability, Hipwood is very gifted athletically but with his height is better suited to a key posiiton role in the future and not a third tall.

One of the youngest in the draft crop due to his birthday being on the 30th of December and will still complete Year 12 studies in Victoria next year. That shouldn't disturb a club from drafting him however when you look at in a long term perspective.

McCartin compliments the KPP Academy picks of Ballenden and the upcoming Payne as well.

PICK 53: RICHMOND - DOM BARRY (OUTSIDE MID / 180 CM, 76 KG / GLENELG / 07.03.1994)

WHY: Gets a second chance in the AFL after spending some time on Melbourne's list a few seasons back.

Left the Demons to "find himself" and his indigenous culture a bit after being away from family since he was a teenager but returned back into the elite system via the SANFL this year and showed he hadn't lost the class and break away speed, particularly in space, that he had at Melbourne.

Think Richmond is an ideal place for him to be drafted to and with a good pre season could find himself in and around the Tigers AFL side.

PICK 54: BRISBANE ACADEMY selection (GOLD COAST bid, BRISBANE MATCH) - JACK PAYNE (KEY DEFENDER / 196 CM, 96 KG / NOOSA - BRISBANE ACADEMY / 15.10.1999)

WHY: Along with Harris Andrews should be part of the Brisbane Lions spine for the next decade.

Has a bit to learn in terms of his defensive positioning which will be developed well at the elite level and even though they play different roles it may be a role where Luke Hodge can take the young fella under his wing a bit.

Has the power to match the big forwards but the speed and nous at ground level to be effective as well. For a young key defender where their disposal by foot can cause some fans to cover there eyes and hope for the best he seems to be a good kick as well, registering 29/30 in the field kicking test at the combine.

PICK 55: GOLD COAST - OSCAR CLAVARINO (KEY DEFENDER / 195 CM, 85 KG / DANEDONG STRINGRAYS / 22.05.1999)

WHY: Clavarino is a tough one to predict where he goes and such has slid a little for some maybe. Along with Petty and Taylor they are the next level of KPD's in the draft behind Naughton and the more physically imposing Brander and Balta.

Good reader of the play which makes him a very effective intercept and rebounding defender. When kicking the ball from defence is a safe kick taker which makes his disposal efficiency numbers better than what they would be if he didn't take the safer option so much.

Still has a lot of work to do on building his body size which obviously didn't get exposed so much at Under 18 and Championship level but against bigger bodies he gets rag dolled like against the Northern Blues in the AFL Academy series.

There are some experts who rate Clavarino much higher and with his disciplined defence, ability to intercept mark, read the play and rebound from the back half that is a fair call, you know what you will get from Oscar and he is reliable.

PICK 56: RICHMOND - NATHAN KREUGER (TALL FWD / 196 CM, 89 KG / SOUTH ADELAIDE / 25.06.1999)

WHY: An athletically gifted tall at either end, I probably see him more as a forward, he adds a different dimension to the Tigers tall draft with Brander and Hayes drafted already.

Still raw and needs to put some size on but I think if played in his right position and allowed to use his running power to effect, best used as a high half fwd/ 3rd tall, he can be very effective at AFL level.
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Premiers17 said:
On that question u asked about Dom from glenelg I don't think so

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With Nathan Krueger looks ok got some agility in him stays in front he's ok could be a chance for us

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Have updated my top 10, will look to update picks 11 - 18 tomorrow night.

1: BL - Cam Rayner - Still prefer LDU for Brisbane but can understand the fascination in the star factor of Rayner.
2: FD - Paddy Dow - HOLDS, best suited midfielder for Freo in my opinion.
3: CB - Luke Davies Uniacke - Compliments Cripps perfectly.
4: NMK -Andrew Brayshaw - Bolter of the draft but seems to be firming for a top 5 pick, if not North than Freo's pick 5.
5: FD - Darcy Fogarty - On talent the best tall (190 cm +) player available.
6: CM - Adam Cerra - Slides from North's pick 4.
7: St. K - Jaidyn Stephenson - HOLDS, brings outside class.
8: St. K - Hunter Clark - Fits another need for the Saints.
9: WB - Nick Coffield - A general down back to replace Murphy, Boyd and eventually Morris
10: CB - Aidan Bonar - Davies Uniacke, Cripps, Charlie Curnow and Bonar is building a team of younger bigger bodied forwards and midfield/ forwards.
 
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Have updated my top 10, will look to update picks 11 - 18 tomorrow night.

1: BL - Cam Rayner - Still prefer LDU for Brisbane but can understand the fascination in the star factor of Rayner.
2: FD - Paddy Dow - HOLDS, best suited midfielder for Freo in my opinion.
3: CB - Luke Davies Uniacke - Compliments Cripps perfectly.
4: NMK -Andrew Brayshaw - Bolter of the draft but seems to be firming for a top 5 pick, if not North than Freo's pick 5.
5: FD - Darcy Fogarty - On talent the best tall (190 cm +) player available.
6: CM - Adam Cerra - Slides from North's pick 4.
7: St. K - Jaidyn Stephenson - HOLDS, brings outside class.
8: St. K - Hunter Clark - Fits another need for the Saints.
9: WB - Nick Coffield - A general down back to replace Murphy, Boyd and eventually Morris
10: CB - Aidan Bonar - Davies Uniacke, Cripps, Charlie Curnow and Bonar is building a team of younger bigger bodied forwards and midfield/ forwards.
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Why update it. Sounds like you're copying it from Callum Twomey and Mick Ablett. Why not make your own phantom draft and stick with it instead of just getting ideas from twomey. That's why we have journalists doing their mock draft because they get inside info we don't need copycats just repeating there thoughts. You never had Hunter Clark or Bonar inside your top 10 and now you do. If your such a expert you should know the top ten talent instead of hearing it from the journos. I bet you any money when Higgins probably will bolt inside top 10, you will have him in there when you currently have him 18 to brisbane which twomey and ablett has. Tell me now why you have higgins pick 18 and why he isnt good enough inside top 10?
 
Everyone updates as they get a feel for what clubs are chasing. Phantom drafts aren't power rankings, they are predictions as to where players may go.

Point of difference though. He hasn't bought into Naughton at #5 or #6 yet.
 
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Everyone updates as they get a feel for what clubs are chasing. Phantom drafts aren't power rankings, they are predictions as to where players may go.

Point of difference though. He hasn't bought into Naughton at #5 or #6 yet.
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obviously I know the difference between a phantom draft and power rankings. Just find it funny who he feels what clubs are chasing is basically what twomey said couple days ago in his top 30 mock draft. Yeah and Twomey didnt have naughton in his top 6 let alone top 10.
 
nightstalker said:
obviously I know the difference between a phantom draft and power rankings. Just find it funny who he feels what clubs are chasing is basically what twomey said couple days ago in his top 30 mock draft. Yeah and Twomey didnt have naughton in his top 6 let alone top 10.
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Maybe you should do your own phantom draft?
 
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Maybe you should do your own phantom draft?
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Whats that going to solve? All I said was why update it when it sounds very similar to twomeys. Just copying from a mock draft with inside info, not exciting at all when the words already out. Besides draft is in a week no point giving my thoughts now when everyones will look similar near end.
 
nightstalker said:
Why update it. Sounds like you're copying it from Callum Twomey and Mick Ablett. Why not make your own phantom draft and stick with it instead of just getting ideas from twomey. That's why we have journalists doing their mock draft because they get inside info we don't need copycats just repeating there thoughts. You never had Hunter Clark or Bonar inside your top 10 and now you do. If your such a expert you should know the top ten talent instead of hearing it from the journos. I bet you any money when Higgins probably will bolt inside top 10, you will have him in there when you currently have him 18 to brisbane which twomey and ablett has. Tell me now why you have higgins pick 18 and why he isnt good enough inside top 10?
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Geez... negative much? Try not reading these phantoms?
 
nightstalker said:
Why update it. Sounds like you're copying it from Callum Twomey and Mick Ablett. Why not make your own phantom draft and stick with it instead of just getting ideas from twomey. That's why we have journalists doing their mock draft because they get inside info we don't need copycats just repeating there thoughts. You never had Hunter Clark or Bonar inside your top 10 and now you do. If your such a expert you should know the top ten talent instead of hearing it from the journos. I bet you any money when Higgins probably will bolt inside top 10, you will have him in there when you currently have him 18 to brisbane which twomey and ablett has. Tell me now why you have higgins pick 18 and why he isnt good enough inside top 10?
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Of course the Pies wouldn't copy any other clubs.
 
Hey nightstalker. Appreciate your feedback. Will get to answering all your questions later on.

For what it’s worth I’ve ALWAYS had Bonar top 10, always had Clark inside the top 15, his firmed inside top 10 for me over the last week and a half.

I’ve never had Higgins top 10 for long either apart from momentarily at pick 10 initially, as much as I love him. As I mentioned don’t take notice of picks 11 onwards.

For what it’s worth yes I am a listener of RTTD, I read the Inside Footy mag update, I bookmark a number of phantoms from here and take a lot of different opinions and options on board before taking a pick.

Got zero interest in copycatting others and I wouldn’t bother spending the time I put into my phantom if I copycatted.
 
FIRST ROUND

PICK 1: BRISBANE - Luke Davies Uniacke / Best mid available, ideal Rockliff replacement.

PICK 2: FREMANTLE - Paddy Dow / Most balanced mid of the draft in my opinion.

PICK 3: CARLTON - Cameron Rayner / X factor in spades.

PICK 4: NORTH MELBOURNE - Andrew Brayshaw / Rate him as the best available midfielder here. Watch on Stephenson and Cerra.

PICK 5: FREMANTLE - Darcy Fogarty / Most talented tall of the draft.

PICK 6: COLLINGWOOD - Adam Cerra / Class in the midfield.

PICK 7: ST. KILDA - Jaidyn Stephenson / Outside x factor.

PICK 8: ST. KILDA - Hunter Clark / Contested midfielder, scope to play off HB.

PICK 9: WESTERN BULLDOGS - Aidan Bonar / Similar player to Stringer.

PICK 10: CARLTON - Charlie Constable / Strong contested midfielder, compliments Cripps and Kennedy well.

PICK 11: GWS - Jack Higgins / Covers the loss of Smith and Johnson to an extent.

PICK 12: ADELAIDE - Nick Coffield / General down back, scope to play inside midfield.

PICK 13: WEST COAST - Oscar Allen / My favourite of the WA 18's team. Very much like Tom Lynch (ADELAIDE).

PICK 14: SYDNEY - Lochie O'Brien / Run and carry from the wings. Classy.

PICK 15: BRISBANE - Nathan Murphy / Genuine utility. Adds something different to the Lions.

PICK 16: WESTERN BULLDOGS - Aaron Naughton / Hard to judge for me. Bulldogs wouldn't hesitate to go here.

PICK 17: RICHMOND - Jarrod Brander / Most ready made tall of the draft I think. Good fit for the Tigers.

PICK 18: BRISBANE - Lochie Fogarty / Balanced midfield game, intent on defensive pressure.

PICK 19: GOLD COAST - Ed Richards / Adam Saad type of replacement for the Suns back half.
 
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SECOND ROUND

PICK 20: RICHMOND - Sam Hayes / Richmond targeting talls early. With his size should end up as a ruck.

PICK 21: WEST COAST - Tim Kelly / First mature ager to be drafted. Ready made and couldn't think of a better club to add him in than my boys.

PICK 22: BRISBANE MATCHED BID - Connor Ballenden / No hesitation to match the bid from Geelong. Plug him in for the next decade with Hipwood, Andrews and co.

PICK 23: GEELONG - Noah Balta / Miss out on Ballenden but draft the mature tall in Balta. I'd use him
down back personally. Sam Taylor a definite chance also.

PICK 24: RICHMOND MATCH BID - Patrick Naish / Outside run and class added for the Tigers. Matched bid for sure.

PICK 25: NORTH MELBOURNE - Joel Garner / They miss out on Naish but bring in Garner who adds outside class from the midfield/ HB as well. Can play inside midfield also. Earmarked for leadership.

PICK 26: GEELONG - Zac Bailey / Explosive speed in the midfield. Could begin his career as a small
forward at Hawkins's feet.

PICK 27: WEST COAST - Matthew Ling / Outside mid with class and speed.

PICK 28: GWS - Ryley Stoddart / General defender to replace Wilson and Heath Shaw longer term.

PICK 29: GWS - Callum Coleman Jones / Big guy brought into replace Mumford.

PICK 30: MELBOURNE - James Worpel / Inside mid who leads from the front. Future post Jones and Lewis in safe hands here.

PICK 31: CARLTON - Gryan Miers / Small forward with lots of spark. Maybe chase a defender here due to Docherty being gone and Simpson near the end.

PICK 32: MELBOURNE - Jack Petreculle / Fastest explosive speed player in the, Outside dash.

PICK 33: WEST COAST - Charlie Spargo / Genuine small forward with a bit of spunk. Would love him at West Coast.

PICK 34: SYDNEY - Sam Taylor / Strong key defender who got great experience at WAFL level this year.

PICK 35: ST. KILDA - Dylan Moore / Small forward initially but long term with his running power should become a quality outside mid.

PICK 36: GEELONG - Toby Wooler / CHF with the potential to team up with Hawkins in 2018.

PICK 37: MELBOURNE - Hayden McLean - Big bodied forward who can ruck as well. Probabaly wouldn;t see him rucking at AFL level but.

PICK 38: WEST COAST - Brandon Starcevich - Inside bull and a local lad to boot. Can play forward with impact.
 
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