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Personally I could live with trading out Vardy and using that pick to get Troy Menzel across from Adelaide.

AND get him playing consistently to the standard he is capable of..
If Vardy is not in the senior side by the end of the season, and a club is interested in offering a pick (or picks) for him, the club would be nuts not to consider it.
 

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I think they will keep Vardy...at least I hope they do.

Troy Menzel doesn't appear to be a great catch...
Troy is younger, just as talented if not more and would be a great add to our forward line alongside his brother. Would think it is only his attitude and work ethic holding him back. Would that be easier to fix than Vardy's body issues?
 
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Chris Scott spoke well on SEN's Coaches Box show about his opposition to the mid-season trade period. Good to know he's taking the right side on the matter.

Conversation on the topic starts roughly around the 20 minute mark.

http://www.sen.com.au/audio
"The intention of the idea is sound."

What he didn't like, most understandably, was a competitor getting a leg-up to become a premiership threat when they weren't before.

"I don't like it at first glance. But happy for the industry to work it through and maybe it can be beneficial for the game.
 
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Troy is younger, just as talented if not more and would be a great add to our forward line alongside his brother. Would think it is only his attitude and work ethic holding him back. Would that be easier to fix than Vardy's body issues?
Well...Vardy has played the last 4 weeks so perhaps he is on the way back..(ok..maybe wishful thinking, but he's at least on the park now)..and from my understanding, Troy has his own issues with respect to his body....which is why he hasn't appeared for Adelaide at all.

Saw a bit of Troy at the Blues and he was ok....doesnt hold a candle to his brother IMO...anyway...on this occasion will agree to disagree.
 

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Personally I could live with trading out Vardy and using that pick to get Troy Menzel across from Adelaide.

AND get him playing consistently to the standard he is capable of..
If we trade Vardy (say for a 3rd rounder) we would need to use that pick to get in a backup ruck anyway-couldn't risk going into 2017 with Smith and Stanley the only frontline rucks.

As for Troy I just think it's a case of people wanting to reuinte the brothers, I can't see why he would move back to Victoria a year after he went home.
 

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I see one comment where Nick Bowen thinks "they're likely to". Nothing at all from the club.
Answering a blog question.. It's his opinion.. Makes Robbo seem genuine.. Nothing in it for mine

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"The intention of the idea is sound."

What he didn't like, most understandably, was a competitor getting a leg-up to become a premiership threat when they weren't before.

"I don't like it at first glance. But happy for the industry to work it through and maybe it can be beneficial for the game.
The reality is I think the worries about it are overblown. There will be maybe 5 players per year I reckon move this way and most of them will be fringe players-for example all Port's rucks are injured, they might trade in someone like Witts who isn't getting games at Collingwood-Witts can get more games and if he goes on a loan deal it means he can show his wares to clubs for the end of season trade period, or if he goes permanently he might get more opportunities and Collingwood gets some form of pick.

The reality is most clubs are not going to have 500-600k sitting spare in the cap each year that allows them to trade in a top player, as it's not practical to have that much spare in your cap just in case in someone becomes available, so it will be mostly fringe players moving on low money to get more gametime.
 

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Just hasn't been very good.
Probably delisted this season.
Nah, first of all he was contracted at Carlton so Adelaide would have given him more than 2016 to get him across (he will be under contract longer than that) and 2 they gave up one of their Dangerfield picks and Kerridge (who is doing quite well) for him, they will not want to delist him now as it will look quite bad with their supporters, they will persist with Menzel for another couple of years at least.
 

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If we trade Vardy (say for a 3rd rounder) we would need to use that pick to get in a backup ruck anyway-couldn't risk going into 2017 with Smith and Stanley the only frontline rucks.

As for Troy I just think it's a case of people wanting to reuinte the brothers, I can't see why he would move back to Victoria a year after he went home.
But Clark is also in the mix so he isn't even first cab off the rank so I think he will go and who could blame him, they all play roughly the same position.
 

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Nah, first of all he was contracted at Carlton so Adelaide would have given him more than 2016 to get him across (he will be under contract longer than that) and 2 they gave up one of their Dangerfield picks and Kerridge (who is doing quite well) for him, they will not want to delist him now as it will look quite bad with their supporters, they will persist with Menzel for another couple of years at least.
I doubt it, if he can't get out of the 2nds. But time will tell.
 

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I doubt it, if he can't get out of the 2nds. But time will tell.
I'm not saying he won't ever get delisted, I am just saying no way it will be this year. They are not going to delist him and pay out his contract 12 months after they brought him in. They will give him time to see if he makes it or not.
 
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I've said it before, I'll say it again...

...silly season has started early this year, eh?
I thought that only happens if we have mid season trading?..

I think that there would plus and minus.. and like FA it would probably be a little different to how it works than anticipated. Will it favour high sides? Will it give more power in a trade to lower clubs because the higher clubs want a player and want him now? Players being contracted mean they must agree but does it gives more hand back to clubs?How does it work with caps trading 2 players in and out and different stages of their contract payment?
There would be a heap to think and study before introduction and once in im sure a few oddities would show up. But like FA I see this as a progression towards a modern sports model. Players similar to Danger that have basically made their mind up and have to be dishonest and sit there with a grin on the face. Look at what happen to Henderson. If player and club basically know its over , why prolong ?
 
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