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catempire said:
It also just makes no sense to trade players when we have a glut of first round picks. Trading a player against their will is extremely rare and really a last resort.
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Agreed..and constable and narkle might want out elsewhere but they wont want GWS anyway.
 
catempire said:
Crouch looks increasingly out of the picture.
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I can only hope so... but if you were Crouch .. would you take a hair cut to get to Geelong ? Selwood is on the clock and he may see plenty of upside for the rest of his career. Not sure ... the Crowbies say he is all about dollars ..so we will see.
 

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Pure_Ownage said:
What makes you think that?
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It was looking that way as soon as we were only offering a moderate salary which wouldn’t give Adelaide pick 2. My sense is Adelaide would rather keep him if they’re not getting over the odds (which 2 clearly would be) plus Crouch himself has said he’d rather stay. Now we have Cameron to deal with. Just seems like stars are aligning.
 
Pure_Ownage said:
Most of our list isnt contracted beyond 2022.
I reckon if we lose a few fringe players now (constable narkle etc) and in future years and backend contracts we can probably fit all of cameron higgins and crouch in the cap if they want to come.
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I honestly do not think the cap is a problem... its how you get them to geelong

for me ... its two R1's for Cameron. Can we convince the Crows to take comp? They are really focused on the p2. Its the only thing that would ensure an easy path. So then we have limited SalCap for Higgins ... so we will see how we do that.
 
catempire said:
It was looking that way as soon as we were only offering a moderate salary which wouldn’t give Adelaide pick 2. My sense is Adelaide would rather keep him if they’re not getting over the odds (which 2 clearly would be) plus Crouch himself has said he’d rather stay. Now we have Cameron to deal with. Just seems like stars are aligning.
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I think crouch will still nominate us though if anything cameron coming makes that more likely as it increases our chance of finals which makes us more attractive to outside players.
Adelaide might match and he stays or goes to the draft but that's a separate issue.
 
Pure_Ownage said:
I think crouch will still nominate us though if anything cameron coming makes that more likely as it increases our chance of finals which makes us more attractive to outside players.
Adelaide might match and he stays or goes to the draft but that's a separate issue.
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It’s possible, just seems less likely to me now.
 
Geelong is out of the race for Brad Crouch and has taken Brandan Parfitt out of the Jeremy Cameron trade picture by re-signing him for two seasons.
The Cats are thrilled to have attracted star free agent Cameron but will now have to trade for him given GWS is intent on matching a bid.

Geelong has a trio of first-round picks but GWS has already indicated it would like young players in the package before it releases Cameron.

RELATED: WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS OFFER?

The Giants under AFL rules can match a bid then force a trade, with Cameron’s only other option to stay or go into the pre-season draft.

The Herald Sun understands Sam Simpson and Esava Ratugolea are two players the Giants have in their sights.

Parfitt would be the perfect midfielder to compliment the band of hard inside onballers at GWS.

But it is understood he officially agreed to terms with Geelong last week as Adelaide expressed interest if the Cats lured Brad Crouch.
Parfitt is a South Australian and in the perfect age bracket for Adelaide to try to drag him back home if it matched a Crouch bid and tried to force a trade.

But even before the Cats got confirmation Jeremy Cameron was moving south, they had made clear they weren’t bidders on Crouch any more.

At one stage there were heavily into both Jack Viney and Crouch but the Demons midfielder signed with Melbourne for five seasons.

The Cats will also secure North Melbourne’s Shaun Higgins, believing he is the perfect swap for a retiring Gary Ablett.

Geelong could also get a late second-round pick for Nakia Cockatoo, who the Herald Sun revealed last month will join Brisbane.

A second or third-round pick might help them with a trade package to satisfy GWS.

Geelong will sign Tom Hawkins on a two-year contract and can secure Cameron with a deal of between $800,000 and $900,000.

It is hard to think of a star pair of forwards who can work better together — and they are the last two Coleman Medal winners – given Cameron is happy to roam far and wide and Hawkins plays from the square.

With Patrick Dangerfield also playing forward and Higgins on a half-forward flank it will be one of footy’s most terrifying forward lines.

Geelong has always had a principle of a broad pay structure where it does not bring in players who are paid more than its best player (in this case Patrick Dangerfield) and its captain (Joel Selwood).

Even with the COVID cut, to secure Cameron for around $850,000 is a masterstroke given the AFL’s highest-paid stars are on around $1.2 million a season.

Fremantle has expressed a strong interest in securing gun young defender Jordan Clark from Geelong.

The Dockers have pick No. 7 and could give it up for Clark in exchange for the Cats’ second-round selection as part of a pick swap.

It would mean the Cats could add a fourth first-round pick on top of the three first-round choices Geelong already has in this year’s draft.

Geelong already has pick No. 11 (from Gold Coast) in this year’s draft as well as West Coast’s first-round pick on top of Geelong’s original first-round selection.

It is an incredibly strong draft hand for a club which will also secure free agent Jeremy Cameron from GWS Giants and Shaun Higgins from North Melbourne.

Clark has only played three games this year after a sizzling debut season in the AFL last year, but doubts have emerged about his defensive capacity.

Clark, who is from Western Australia, would help bolster the Dockers’ running power and linebreaking ability through the half back line and wing areas.

He is seen as a significant offensive threat and Fremantle wants to add to its outside midfield options after securing James Aish and Blake Acres last year.

The Dockers are known to be keen on Clark and have zeroed in on a potential trade while he has remained sidelined late in the season.

Clark, who is contracted at Geelong for next season, finished equal fifth in the Rising Star award last year.
 
Pure_Ownage said:
I think crouch will still nominate us though if anything cameron coming makes that more likely as it increases our chance of finals which makes us more attractive to outside players.
Adelaide might match and he stays or goes to the draft but that's a separate issue.
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I think if we trade for Cameron ..could we persuade him to defer some his money for Year 3.

It might be difficult as he has been burnt by GWS... but if we in theory could... then we offer a band 1 -2 year deal to Crouch ... Crows happy . Once here ..we sign year 3, 4 etc and more ..at much lower ..to even it out ... and Cameron gets his square up in year 3. As an average Crouch then still earns what we are happy to pay him.

If we are trading out our picks then who care about push the picks back.
 
hbk_aus said:
Geelong is out of the race for Brad Crouch and has taken Brandan Parfitt out of the Jeremy Cameron trade picture by re-signing him for two seasons.
The Cats are thrilled to have attracted star free agent Cameron but will now have to trade for him given GWS is intent on matching a bid.

Geelong has a trio of first-round picks but GWS has already indicated it would like young players in the package before it releases Cameron.

RELATED: WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS OFFER?

The Giants under AFL rules can match a bid then force a trade, with Cameron’s only other option to stay or go into the pre-season draft.

The Herald Sun understands Sam Simpson and Esava Ratugolea are two players the Giants have in their sights.

Parfitt would be the perfect midfielder to compliment the band of hard inside onballers at GWS.

But it is understood he officially agreed to terms with Geelong last week as Adelaide expressed interest if the Cats lured Brad Crouch.
Parfitt is a South Australian and in the perfect age bracket for Adelaide to try to drag him back home if it matched a Crouch bid and tried to force a trade.

But even before the Cats got confirmation Jeremy Cameron was moving south, they had made clear they weren’t bidders on Crouch any more.

At one stage there were heavily into both Jack Viney and Crouch but the Demons midfielder signed with Melbourne for five seasons.

The Cats will also secure North Melbourne’s Shaun Higgins, believing he is the perfect swap for a retiring Gary Ablett.

Geelong could also get a late second-round pick for Nakia Cockatoo, who the Herald Sun revealed last month will join Brisbane.

A second or third-round pick might help them with a trade package to satisfy GWS.

Geelong will sign Tom Hawkins on a two-year contract and can secure Cameron with a deal of between $800,000 and $900,000.

It is hard to think of a star pair of forwards who can work better together — and they are the last two Coleman Medal winners – given Cameron is happy to roam far and wide and Hawkins plays from the square.

With Patrick Dangerfield also playing forward and Higgins on a half-forward flank it will be one of footy’s most terrifying forward lines.

Geelong has always had a principle of a broad pay structure where it does not bring in players who are paid more than its best player (in this case Patrick Dangerfield) and its captain (Joel Selwood).

Even with the COVID cut, to secure Cameron for around $850,000 is a masterstroke given the AFL’s highest-paid stars are on around $1.2 million a season.

Fremantle has expressed a strong interest in securing gun young defender Jordan Clark from Geelong.

The Dockers have pick No. 7 and could give it up for Clark in exchange for the Cats’ second-round selection as part of a pick swap.

It would mean the Cats could add a fourth first-round pick on top of the three first-round choices Geelong already has in this year’s draft.

Geelong already has pick No. 11 (from Gold Coast) in this year’s draft as well as West Coast’s first-round pick on top of Geelong’s original first-round selection.

It is an incredibly strong draft hand for a club which will also secure free agent Jeremy Cameron from GWS Giants and Shaun Higgins from North Melbourne.

Clark has only played three games this year after a sizzling debut season in the AFL last year, but doubts have emerged about his defensive capacity.

Clark, who is from Western Australia, would help bolster the Dockers’ running power and linebreaking ability through the half back line and wing areas.

He is seen as a significant offensive threat and Fremantle wants to add to its outside midfield options after securing James Aish and Blake Acres last year.

The Dockers are known to be keen on Clark and have zeroed in on a potential trade while he has remained sidelined late in the season.

Clark, who is contracted at Geelong for next season, finished equal fifth in the Rising Star award last year.
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Happy to read that
 

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Turbocat said:
I honestly do not think the cap is a problem... its how you get them to geelong

for me ... its two R1's for Cameron. Can we convince the Crows to take comp? They are really focused on the p2. Its the only thing that would ensure an easy path. So then we have limited SalCap for Higgins ... so we will see how we do that.
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Thats why i suggested we pay up to get them 2 then we trade some of our teens picks for 2. If they would go for it it basically snookers GWS re cameron.

Look at it this way..whats the better outcome?
Pay cameron 850 crouch 500 and have to trade 2R1s or equivalent for cameron.
Pay crouch 750 (for example to trigger P2) then trade the teens picks (in some form) for 2 so GWS have to not match.
Basically youre giving up the same picks either way but for say 250k per year for 4 years youre getting pick 2.
Id sure preference that over saving the 250k and losing draft capital..250 is only one fringe player's wage anyway.
 
hbk_aus said:
Geelong is out of the race for Brad Crouch and has taken Brandan Parfitt out of the Jeremy Cameron trade picture by re-signing him for two seasons.
The Cats are thrilled to have attracted star free agent Cameron but will now have to trade for him given GWS is intent on matching a bid.

Geelong has a trio of first-round picks but GWS has already indicated it would like young players in the package before it releases Cameron.

RELATED: WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS OFFER?

The Giants under AFL rules can match a bid then force a trade, with Cameron’s only other option to stay or go into the pre-season draft.

The Herald Sun understands Sam Simpson and Esava Ratugolea are two players the Giants have in their sights.

Parfitt would be the perfect midfielder to compliment the band of hard inside onballers at GWS.

But it is understood he officially agreed to terms with Geelong last week as Adelaide expressed interest if the Cats lured Brad Crouch.
Parfitt is a South Australian and in the perfect age bracket for Adelaide to try to drag him back home if it matched a Crouch bid and tried to force a trade.

But even before the Cats got confirmation Jeremy Cameron was moving south, they had made clear they weren’t bidders on Crouch any more.

At one stage there were heavily into both Jack Viney and Crouch but the Demons midfielder signed with Melbourne for five seasons.

The Cats will also secure North Melbourne’s Shaun Higgins, believing he is the perfect swap for a retiring Gary Ablett.

Geelong could also get a late second-round pick for Nakia Cockatoo, who the Herald Sun revealed last month will join Brisbane.

A second or third-round pick might help them with a trade package to satisfy GWS.

Geelong will sign Tom Hawkins on a two-year contract and can secure Cameron with a deal of between $800,000 and $900,000.

It is hard to think of a star pair of forwards who can work better together — and they are the last two Coleman Medal winners – given Cameron is happy to roam far and wide and Hawkins plays from the square.

With Patrick Dangerfield also playing forward and Higgins on a half-forward flank it will be one of footy’s most terrifying forward lines.

Geelong has always had a principle of a broad pay structure where it does not bring in players who are paid more than its best player (in this case Patrick Dangerfield) and its captain (Joel Selwood).

Even with the COVID cut, to secure Cameron for around $850,000 is a masterstroke given the AFL’s highest-paid stars are on around $1.2 million a season.

Fremantle has expressed a strong interest in securing gun young defender Jordan Clark from Geelong.

The Dockers have pick No. 7 and could give it up for Clark in exchange for the Cats’ second-round selection as part of a pick swap.

It would mean the Cats could add a fourth first-round pick on top of the three first-round choices Geelong already has in this year’s draft.

Geelong already has pick No. 11 (from Gold Coast) in this year’s draft as well as West Coast’s first-round pick on top of Geelong’s original first-round selection.

It is an incredibly strong draft hand for a club which will also secure free agent Jeremy Cameron from GWS Giants and Shaun Higgins from North Melbourne.

Clark has only played three games this year after a sizzling debut season in the AFL last year, but doubts have emerged about his defensive capacity.

Clark, who is from Western Australia, would help bolster the Dockers’ running power and linebreaking ability through the half back line and wing areas.

He is seen as a significant offensive threat and Fremantle wants to add to its outside midfield options after securing James Aish and Blake Acres last year.

The Dockers are known to be keen on Clark and have zeroed in on a potential trade while he has remained sidelined late in the season.

Clark, who is contracted at Geelong for next season, finished equal fifth in the Rising Star award last year.
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Interesting article, only problem is that Fremantle don't have pick 7 - that's Carltons pick

So while Fremantle may be happy trading pick 7 for Clark, not sure Carlton will agree

Really curious as to why journalists can't get even the basics right
 
catempire said:
There you go, seems I was right.
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Ill wait til i see something official but crouch is a nice but non essential piece so not stressed providing we get others in.
 
Pure_Ownage said:
I think crouch will still nominate us though if anything cameron coming makes that more likely as it increases our chance of finals which makes us more attractive to outside players.
Adelaide might match and he stays or goes to the draft but that's a separate issue.
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With Cameron coming its looking harder and harder to A) Price Adelaide out or B) Satisfy a trade.
Geelong would be honest with him and tell him they wouldn't be confident on getting it done. So he goes elsewhere.
Looks like it was Crouch or Cameron.
Also a chance we cooled after the drugs mishap.
 
BigCat1 said:
Edmund on SEN seems sure the contract is the same and the Giants will be matching and asking for two first round picks.

These guys are unbelievable. So no top 10 pick and apparently a 28 yr old on less money than Sheil and Treloar is worth more in a trade.
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Wrll whats better pick 11.13 or Cameron... I would take Cameron any day of the week.. The good clubs rule FA and the dwellers rule the draft...
 
cats_09 said:
Interesting article, only problem is that Fremantle don't have pick 7 - that's Carltons pick

So while Fremantle may be happy trading pick 7 for Clark, not sure Carlton will agree

Really curious as to why journalists can't get even the basics right
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I know which is why i dont give much credibility to those articles.
 
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Fremantle has expressed a strong interest in securing gun young defender Jordan Clark from Geelong.

The Dockers have pick No. 7 and could give it up for Clark in exchange for the Cats’ second-round selection as part of a pick swap.

It would mean the Cats could add a fourth first-round pick on top of the three first-round choices Geelong already has in this year’s draft.

Geelong already has pick No. 11 (from Gold Coast) in this year’s draft as well as West Coast’s first-round pick on top of Geelong’s original first-round selection.

It is an incredibly strong draft hand for a club which will also secure free agent Jeremy Cameron from GWS Giants and Shaun Higgins from North Melbourne.

Clark has only played three games this year after a sizzling debut season in the AFL last year, but doubts have emerged about his defensive capacity.

Clark, who is from Western Australia, would help bolster the Dockers’ running power and linebreaking ability through the half back line and wing areas.

He is seen as a significant offensive threat and Fremantle wants to add to its outside midfield options after securing James Aish and Blake Acres last year.

The Dockers are known to be keen on Clark and have zeroed in on a potential trade while he has remained sidelined late in the season.

Clark, who is contracted at Geelong for next season, finished equal fifth in the Rising Star award last year.
 
Kyuss said:
With Cameron coming its looking harder and harder to A) Price Adelaide out or B) Satisfy a trade.
Geelong would be honest with him and tell him they wouldn't be confident on getting it done. So he goes elsewhere.
Looks like it was Crouch or Cameron.
Also a chance we cooled after the drugs mishap.
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We have the cap room for both its more if we still want crouch and want to pay him.
 
Turbocat said:
Get the facts right

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DOCKERS EYE YOUNG CAT

Fremantle has expressed a strong interest in securing gun young defender Jordan Clark from Geelong.

The Dockers have pick No. 7 and could give it up for Clark in exchange for the Cats’ second-round selection as part of a pick swap.

It would mean the Cats could add a fourth first-round pick on top of the three first-round choices Geelong already has in this year’s draft.

Geelong already has pick No. 11 (from Gold Coast) in this year’s draft as well as West Coast’s first-round pick on top of Geelong’s original first-round selection.

It is an incredibly strong draft hand for a club which will also secure free agent Jeremy Cameron from GWS Giants and Shaun Higgins from North Melbourne.

Clark has only played three games this year after a sizzling debut season in the AFL last year, but doubts have emerged about his defensive capacity.

Clark, who is from Western Australia, would help bolster the Dockers’ running power and linebreaking ability through the half back line and wing areas.

He is seen as a significant offensive threat and Fremantle wants to add to its outside midfield options after securing James Aish and Blake Acres last year.

The Dockers are known to be keen on Clark and have zeroed in on a potential trade while he has remained sidelined late in the season.

Clark, who is contracted at Geelong for next season, finished equal fifth in the Rising Star award last year.
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Fremantle dont even have 7. What a rubbish article.
 
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