Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[Larry Donohue]

I can't understand how you can be on a senior list and not be to be honest. The clue is in the name of the sport (it's not 'AFL' either).

kOLO, HENRY, DAHLHAUS TO NAME A FEW, NEED SOME DRILLS IN THE ART OF THE GAME TITLE

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Everyone knows what dealing with Essendon is like...I dont think we'll waste our breath...

As for Menegola, he was stiff to miss All Australian last year...he stays unless a ridiculous offer is put on the table that he would be silly to ignore...

Geelong man through and through these days....

Menegola already re-signed anyway.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We should be going hard for him, as that's who we were actually looking to trade up for when we got Coop. Dunno if we'd have the collateral to satisfy Adelaide, but he'd be a great fit with Hendo probably only playing on until the end of next year

We have 3 R2s so yes we do. I think he will pick a melb club not us though.

 

[Turbocat]

Yeah, but also harder to make it as a forward. Give it the year then we'll know if we have Tom Lonergan or Timm House.

Speaking of, I wonder what House is doing. Maybe a lifeline?

Depending on one skill set making as a forward or defender can be easier or harder. As a no talent hack , I was a natural backman but ofter talented players can play the role, they have grown up playing their own game. Player like Hnkley, one of may favourites almost played def like a forward. I doubhe could have played a shut down role.

 

[Turbocat]

So we are already short of one or two possible games from J Cameron. Considering his recruitment cost was all about this year, each game he misses increases the cost. ( in theory ).....not forgetting that we could have got his as UFA at the end of this year 2021..


I am not sure of the players GWS have picked from the Cameron trade , I know one was Bruhn..


Of course... if he misses 5 even ten games but stars in finals and we win the flag, then just like with Ottens years ago, his recruitment will be looked upon as brilliant.


Injuries happen to all players but there seems an obvious concern that when wew bring in players close to 30 or older..we will have injury considerations.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

So we are already short of one or two possible games from J Cameron. Considering his recruitment cost was all about this year, each game he misses increases the cost. ( in theory ).....not forgetting that we could have got his as UFA at the end of this year 2021..


I am not sure of the players GWS have picked from the Cameron trade , I know one was Bruhn..


Of course... if he misses 5 even ten games but stars in finals and we win the flag, then just like with Ottens years ago, his recruitment will be looked upon as brilliant.


Injuries happen to all players but there seems an obvious concern that when wew bring in players close to 30 or older..we will have injury considerations.

Bruhn was their compo pick for Williams. We'd have had to trade up to get a look

 

[Turbocat]

Bruhn was their compo pick for Williams. We'd have had to trade up to get a look

Which players did we miss on any idea? I guess could get off my A and try to work it out? It would seem Henry was one player that we would have been able to pick he was only 2 or 3 short of Holmes.


The news with Cooper S being injured will probably exposse our choice of trading out our picks even more, but Im not sure any player we picked would hvae been selected.

IMO, what we desperately need is an absolute gun kid that demands selection. Kid the quality of a young Joel Selwood will always been gone by the pick we tend to take to the draft.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Which players did we miss on any idea? I guess could get off my A and try to work it out? It would seem Henry was one player that we would have been able to pick he was only 2 or 3 short of Holmes.


The news with Cooper S being injured will probably exposse our choice of trading out our picks even more, but Im not sure any player we picked would hvae been selected.

IMO, what we desperately need is an absolute gun kid that demands selection. Kid the quality of a young Joel Selwood will always been gone by the pick we tend to take to the draft.

Henry we also would have had to trade for though it might have been doable. Our pick 11 got shifted back a lot. I think the picks we had were just in the dead space where there were no known quantities that sides would have really felt that comfortable trading back for. There will be questions on why we didn't pick x player etc but it's hard to tell who that even is right now let alone at the time.

 

[Turbocat]

Henry we also would have had to trade for though it might have been doable. Our pick 11 got shifted back a lot. I think the picks we had were just in the dead space where there were no known quantities that sides would have really felt that comfortable trading back for. There will be questions on why we didn't pick x player etc but it's hard to tell who that even is right now let alone at the time.

OK ..I have took it up now ...

It looks like it was Gold Coast Pick > P15 , which was Connor Stone , West Coast Pick > P18 Ryan Anguin , Geelong Pick > P25 Brayden Cook


so we could have picked Ollie Henry if we had kept the Gold Coast pick. as he was taken at P17

 

[Strange Cat]

Which players did we miss on any idea? I guess could get off my A and try to work it out? It would seem Henry was one player that we would have been able to pick he was only 2 or 3 short of Holmes.


The news with Cooper S being injured will probably exposse our choice of trading out our picks even more, but Im not sure any player we picked would hvae been selected.

IMO, what we desperately need is an absolute gun kid that demands selection. Kid the quality of a young Joel Selwood will always been gone by the pick we tend to take to the draft.

With a lot of poster carrying on about chook you would think he’s the kid messiah we need

we desperately need a gun kid midfielder in the next few years, how we get one I don’t know unless we trade out established players or get some very high draft picks

 

[CatToTheFuture]

OK ..I have took it up now ...

It looks like it was Gold Coast Pick > P15 , which was Connor Stone , West Coast Pick > P18 Ryan Anguin , Geelong Pick > P25 Brayden Cook


so we could have picked Ollie Henry if we had kept the Gold Coast pick. as he was taken at P17

Ah ok, I was mistaken. Hopefully not one that comes back to bite us

 

[cats_09]

CLUBS should be allowed to trade players to another club without their consent, according to a majority of senior coaches.

In AFL.com.au's exclusive anonymous survey of the league's senior coaches, 86 per cent of coaches surveyed were in favour of clubs being able to trade players without their permission.

Of those, one said that it should only be allowed after a player has served a certain amount of years in the competition, while another agreed with the concept but only for players above a certain pay bracket.

Only one of the coaches surveyed was against the idea, while another said it depended on the free agency rules...

Coaches want option to trade players against their will

A majority of senior AFL coaches surveyed by AFL.com.au support trading players without their permission

www.afl.com.au

 

[ShaunWDT]

Could be a solution to the KPB problem

Havent seen anything to suggest hes actually any good, Adelaide went and got Nick Murray which says it all regarding how they rate him.

 

[Turbocat]

CLUBS should be allowed to trade players to another club without their consent, according to a majority of senior coaches.

In AFL.com.au's exclusive anonymous survey of the league's senior coaches, 86 per cent of coaches surveyed were in favour of clubs being able to trade players without their permission.

Of those, one said that it should only be allowed after a player has served a certain amount of years in the competition, while another agreed with the concept but only for players above a certain pay bracket.

Only one of the coaches surveyed was against the idea, while another said it depended on the free agency rules...

Coaches want option to trade players against their will

A majority of senior AFL coaches surveyed by AFL.com.au support trading players without their permission

www.afl.com.au

I would look at 3 or 4 years in which this was able to be applied..but can you imagine Jez Cameron last year being traded to Ess against his will because they have better picks ? Id say once a player has got 6 years in the bank that they have a no force trade element in the contract... and to balance that ... no RFA, players are UFA at 7 years etc..

One would have to look at giving them a finacial bonus as well. Perhaps a years wage without it affecting sal cap

 

[Turbocat]

Havent seen anything to suggest hes actually any good, Adelaide went and got Nick Murray which says it all regarding how they rate him.

I have no mental vision on Nick Murray, but this kid would be equal to any KPP type we have drafted with our picks for sometime Is he 20 yet?. Most likely he picks a Melb calub anyway so it would be all irrelevant.

 

[Turbocat]

Ah ok, I was mistaken. Hopefully not one that comes back to bite us

There is no doubt that we have brought in a best 22 player for 2021. Would Henry be that? Probably not.I have this feeling if GFC were a guy going ona date they are not thinking about how thing will be in 12 months...

Cameron will be 28 before he has played a game for us. We probably get three good years. After that the players we did not pick may start to bite us. May. As we have seen , good junior form does not always translate. For all the verve and optimism on Henry, the same was being said on Smedts.

My gut feel thou is he will be a good player, that Joel is on the slide, Danger is past his best. Hawkins will only devalue from here, that they guys we have brought in are no more than bandaids on the side of the dam... and I will not change my mind on that till we have a kid or two regularly in the votes. When our best player is Cam Guthrie, I think we are getting close to the end.

 

[Turbocat]

With a lot of poster carrying on about chook you would think he’s the kid messiah we need

we desperately need a gun kid midfielder in the next few years, how we get one I don’t know unless we trade out established players or get some very high draft picks

I agree on your assertion ... just as an exercise.. name lets have a look at the last three first rounds at the draft and see which mids would be getting games for us.






Who would you say would get a reguar game for us?

Id say Walsh, Rozee, Smith, Rowell, Ash (not a mid), perhaps Anderson, Perhaps Butters... the pick's required to get them are much earlier than the type of picks we have had access to


it becomes obvious that ..we are at a stage it hard to add kid... but if all the players hit the wall at the same time..soon we may have a heap of spots.., and then we may get some early picks thru a few years at the bottom or near the bottom.


till then I think we will continue to look at mature replacements that are free agents or late mature types like Menegola.

 

[Strange Cat]

I agree on your assertion ... just as an exercise.. name lets have a look at the last three first rounds at the draft and see which mids would be getting games for us.



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Who would you say would get a reguar game for us?

Id say Walsh, Rozee, Smith, Rowell, Ash (not a mid), perhaps Anderson, Perhaps Butters... the pick's required to get them are much earlier than the type of picks we have had access to


it becomes obvious that ..we are at a stage it hard to add kid... but if all the players hit the wall at the same time..soon we may have a heap of spots.., and then we may get some early picks thru a few years at the bottom or near the bottom.


till then I think we will continue to look at mature replacements that are free agents or late mature types like Menegola.

Rowell and Smith would be extremely handy right now , as would Butters

hopefully we can get some quality kids in the next few years , I still think Cooper and Narkle and Simpson could develop into something we need in the future.

 

[Biscut]

Do we have a second round pick in the next draft tied to Essendon finishing position?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Do we have a second round pick in the next draft tied to Essendon finishing position?

We certainly do. Gws also

 

[Biscut]

We certainly do. Gws also

Thanks mate, Dons to finish last!

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Thanks mate, Dons to finish last!

Hah, they're a prime bottom 4 candidate but early days. I'll start to believe in finishing positions around round 8

 

[Strange Cat]

Hah, they're a prime bottom 4 candidate but early days. I'll start to believe in finishing positions around round 8

What would the puck start to look like for a bottom two finish ?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

What would the puck start to look like for a bottom two finish ?

Hard to say, haven't read much good information because there basically isn't any after last years juniors didn't get much of a look in. They say it's a good midfielders draft which might just mean there isn't much in the way of decent tall players. A few kids who didn't get drafted last year will do ok in nab and slip through but the kids who would've gone first round would have likely been drafted last year or be picked up in the mid season.

For dons if they did finish bottom 4 then we'd have a pick on the 20-23 as Suns have a pick 19. Probably end up 23-28 range. Likely scenario we get something between a Parfitt or a Fogarty. Best case we get a Zach Merrett or Tom Stewart. Incredibly hard to say.

I think where we will see the true benefit is in the late second round. We should be able to pick up better than usual players around pick 30-40 because there'll be a few undrafted natural early 2nd rounders there. I think the first round and 3rd round on won't change much. Not an assertion based on specific players but just a shot from the hip.

 

[Down at K Park]

What would the puck start to look like for a bottom two finish ?

Next draft won’t be so compromised. Pick could be low 20’s.