Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[God Mode]

Don't exactly see Rohan or Tuohy as being old enough to start being consistently 'rested' yet

I think Rohan has been burned out come finals since 2019. Remember he kicked 25 goals in the first half of 19 and then barely any after that. He didn't play for the first half of this year and I think that was the catalyst for performing well in the back end of the season. Can't hurt having your older players as fresh as can be whilst getting games into their soon to be replacement. It's 2 bird 1 stone in my eyes.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

My view of Henry - because i did watch quite a bit of Coll mainly in the 2nd half of the year

He does things which you can excite you - maybe excite you too much - like his marking

However to me - what he lacks is speed off the mark - real agility

He reminds me of a young Paul Brown - who ended up a reasonable player - but Brown when he 1st started he could take an o/head mark - and youd say -look this bloke is going to be a top liner - but he also lacked that speed and agility

I would personally pass on him- however if he comes to Geel - and im assuming Gary Rohan will play the next couple of years( and in Harry Taylors words he is the quickest bloke on list ) - then Henry wont push Rohan out of the side - because Rohan is as good - or if not better o/head mark than Henry - and he has got that explosive pace and agility - which Henry hasnt got

Henry couldnt push Will Hoskin Elliot out of Collingwoods side - thus he wont be pushing Rohan out in my opinion

Ive watched ollie a lot as a junior and he does have real pace off the mark (and huge spring and ability to get to the ball at its highest point which is why he marks so well) but at times i think he lacks the ability to anticipate where the ball will go and hence why he looks slower than he is. Like jack was at the start he is in some ways more athlete than footballer (although still a good footy player) but he will learn that with good coaching. When he puts his foot to the floor he is actually reasonably quick.

The biggest thing rohan has over henry is not pure speed but manic intent to apply pressure defensively..thats a weakness in henrys game and the main thing he will need to improve to be best 22 in our system (thats the main reason pies dropped him not speed).

 

[Sky]

Yep, feels like we are discussing scenarios with legitimate recruiters

Wouldn’t be surprised if one of them was Micky Turner because they’re so knowledgeable

 

[Turbocat]

If clubs are speaking with Jhye Clark (knowing Geelong will likely have pick 7) both he and his manager will be making it clear he wants to get to Geelong. Consider current go home factors at play ….. manager simply states - “look you can draft him but don’t say you weren’t warned, he’ll look for a trade home to Geelong in two years so just avoid the trouble and draft someone who wants to join your club”. It’s draft manipulation but clubs will be all over it based on recent history. Bruhn and Henry just gives it more weight.

If Geelong have pick 7 he’ll get to Geelong with that pick.


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Treads a fine line but I guess you can keep talking about the wat Tanner Bruhn looked on draft night. It would be a shame to see another Falcon look like that etc.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

My preference is to not benefit them at all and keep 7 but my guess is we will not be overly difficult to deal with..to ensure we get the deals done


So your thinking is ..something like

7 = 12 and 19 at GWS? is that basically 7 for 12 and Bruhn?


Then trade 18 and something for Henry


WE keep our Fr1 ...and end up with Bruhn, Henry, Bowes and P12 which is probably not Clark in the draft but someone handy like Mackenzie or Hollands or maybe Busslinger that gives us the tall we could never have dreamed about months ago?

.... and we put Clark of the mailing list like Bruhn and Henry

Yeah that was precisely what i was thinking (split 7 -whether its with gws or not depends on how much goodwill there is there but you could do it with sydney or the dogs) one pick becomes bruhn or henry and 18 the other.
Still gives us say 14 or 15 this year and a future 1st (if busslinger or another good tall somehow got to 14 that would be the dream result)

The only downside is clark goes elsewhere and we have to chase him in 2 years.

 

[Turbocat]

I just can’t see a fringe Collingwood player being worth a first.

And yes I know he has potential, but just personally I feel he’s put a big price tag on himself.

Which player in the draft for that late R1 pick is worth more than Henry?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Treads a fine line but I guess you can keep talking about the wat Tanner Bruhn looked on draft night. It would be a shame to see another Falcon look like that etc.

To be fair i think a lot if that was because tanner got drafted interstate during covid.
If he got drafted to hawks or ess or rich etc i doubt he would have been clamouring to come back to us after 2 years (in the same way clark wont be as easy to get back imo if a vic club takes him). Henrys circumstances are unique (big vic club to then come back to us).

 

[Turbocat]

Yeah that was precisely what i was thinking (split 7 -whether its with gws or not depends on how much goodwill there is there but you could do it with sydney or the dogs) one pick becomes bruhn or henry and 18 the other.
Still gives us say 14 or 15 this year and a future 1st (if busslinger or another good tall somehow got to 14 that would be the dream result)

The only downside is clark goes elsewhere and we have to chase him in 2 years.

no matter what ..we are trying bring in highly rated youth into our list... we may not get everything we want but its a big jump in covering transitiuon.

The Bowes thing is like manna from heaven .... as long as he selects us. The key will be to convince him there is a spot in our midfield group ..or he probably picks someone else

 

[Jumping Jack]

Treads a fine line but I guess you can keep talking about the wat Tanner Bruhn looked on draft night. It would be a shame to see another Falcon look like that etc.

Happens quite a bit already with WA and SA clubs in particular. Was a big talking point when Rozee was drafted. Interstate clubs will be very wary when looking at Clark, but still a factor. The Clarkson / North uncertainty / Essendon instability / Hawthorn racism review will be factors that also help Geelong if Clark is a top 6 target before we hopefully use pick 7.


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[Kobe Gryant]

I think the club is being realistic about our good run with injuries this year, and loading up a bit more opportunistically than usual to build a deeper quality depth to keep our system working Consistently. I also think first round picks that Have shown they can play at the level, aren’t injury prone and have a few years development are better risks with our late first round choices. It’s just a happy set of circumstances if we can add McKenna , Bowles and pick 7 as well. Mind blowing really.

did we really have that great a run with injuries though?

Plenty had interrupted pre-seasons, and by the time we got going it was definitely a 'next man up' mentality for anyone who was coming in.

Danger wasn't the Danger we know and love until preliminary final night, we've now proven that we have depth and can cover when our stars are having down days.

 

[Turbocat]

To be fair i think a lot if that was because tanner got drafted interstate during covid.
If he got drafted to hawks or ess or rich etc i doubt he would have been clamouring to come back to us after 2 years (in the same way clark wont be as easy to get back imo if a vic club takes him). Henrys circumstances are unique (big vic club to then come back to us).

I doubt we get every ex falcon that is drafted elsewhere to want back like this year. Its unusual.

 

[Turbocat]

So Sav being interview by Port .... probably not get much from them ... maybe a future of some kind that we may be able to use in the Bruhn trade?




and I have to wonder what all these players coming ...does to a player like Menegola.

 

[Sky]

So Sav being interview by Port .... probably not get much from them ... maybe a future of some kind that we may be able to use in the Bruhn trade?




and I have to wonder what all these players coming ...does to a player like Menegola.

West Coast are playing hard ball over Rioli who is virtually hopeless and arguably worth less than we paid for Gary Rohan in draft capital. If Port gets Ratugolea and we get less than WC do for Rioli, the Eagles fans will take great enjoyment out of it.

Personally, I think both Ratugolea and Rioli are worth a pick in the 60s.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

In the vfl he racks them up quite well. The issue is in the afl games cooper played this year he was shunted to the wing a lot which doesnt suit him hes an atkins style clearance mid. Need to see him in that role at afl level for 10-20 games before we can make a call on him. I think he will make it if he gets that opportunity and be a good solid player.

Cooper Stephens has one of the better bodies for a inside mid and when fully matured, he'll have plenty of size and strength, just needs to keep working on his game but in time I do think he's still a chance of becoming a very good footballer, for us Catter's sake let's hope so!

 

[Gazza Greatness]

no matter what ..we are trying bring in highly rated youth into our list... we may not get everything we want but its a big jump in covering transitiuon.

The Bowes thing is like manna from heaven .... as long as he selects us. The key will be to convince him there is a spot in our midfield group ..or he probably picks someone else

Given so many clubs are now interested in Bowes with the Gold Coast offering pick 7 as a enticement, then I reckon Dangerfield might be the key to whether we get Bowes or not. Danger has stated he likes Bowes as a footballer, a bit like Mitch Duncan and has taken a interest in Bowes for quiet sometime and has apparently spoken to him and said as much. If Bowes entertains and likes the idea of playing alongside Danger, knowing it could fast-forward his long-term development then we might be half a chance.

 

[Turbocat]

West Coast are playing hard ball over Rioli who is virtually hopeless and arguably worth less than we paid for Gary Rohan in draft capital. If Port gets Ratugolea and we get less than WC do for Rioli, the Eagles fans will take great enjoyment out of it.

Personally, I think both Ratugolea and Rioli are worth a pick in the 60s.

Sav is contracted so..its up to us to agree to his value

 

[Sky]

Sav is contracted so..its up to us to agree to his value

Then he is worth pick 40 but Rioli should be 60-70 on form and previous poor behaviour.

 

[MacStradbroke]

West Coast are playing hard ball over Rioli who is virtually hopeless and arguably worth less than we paid for Gary Rohan in draft capital. If Port gets Ratugolea and we get less than WC do for Rioli, the Eagles fans will take great enjoyment out of it.

Personally, I think both Ratugolea and Rioli are worth a pick in the 60s.

Rioli hopeless says to me you don’t watch the Eagles very often.

 

[dazbroncos]

Hey... Mods.
Where's LORE's provisional draft order??
Like we had on the 1st part of this thread.

working on it.

GO Catters

 

[Sky]

Rioli hopeless says to me you don’t watch the Eagles very often.

I watch most games every week and if WC have rejected Karl Amon’s compensation pick for Junior Rioli then I’m completely mystified.

14 goals from 13 games this year and there were many moments where it looked like he stopped trying/caring. He’s as worthless as it gets when it comes to draft picks.

I sympathise with him losing his father as I know how it feels and I lost mine when I was younger than Junior. He owes West Coast for keeping him for those two years.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Sav is contracted so..its up to us to agree to his value

Plenty bag him - and i know his footy smarts- and his ball drop re kicking aernt that flash

However if he goes to another club - even one say down the ladder a fair bit - so the blow torch isnt applied

Then It wont surprise me if he plays well - really well -because he has got talent - and not bragging but Geel are the premiers - the no 1 side - and he has got Cameron and Hawkins in his way - so he just cant get a game

If i was Fremantle i would be having a good look at him

 

[kimodgers]

Any news on Irish prospect Oisin Mullin? We nearly recruited him last year.

 

[Nickoo]

We can get all three done imo because bowes wont cost stacks and we can use all our later picks and futures to generate additional currency if we need to (plus any players going like sav). We can also split 7 if we get it.

I’ve heard this a lot this idea of splitting 7. If we can pull it off, why would we do that? Why not get the best kid we can?


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[Pure_Ownage]

I’ve heard this a lot this idea of splitting 7. If we can pull it off, why would we do that? Why not get the best kid we can?


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The reason would be if you valued a pick in the late teens this year + a future 1st (ie you thought next years draft was much better than this years) more than pick 7 this year but with no first rounder next year (as if we dont split 7 we will likely have to trade the future 1st).

 

[dangerwood]

Ive watched ollie a lot as a junior and he does have real pace off the mark (and huge spring and ability to get to the ball at its highest point which is why he marks so well) but at times i think he lacks the ability to anticipate where the ball will go and hence why he looks slower than he is. Like jack was at the start he is in some ways more athlete than footballer (although still a good footy player) but he will learn that with good coaching. When he puts his foot to the floor he is actually reasonably quick.

The biggest thing rohan has over henry is not pure speed but manic intent to apply pressure defensively..thats a weakness in henrys game and the main thing he will need to improve to be best 22 in our system (thats the main reason pies dropped him not speed).

And Ollie is a bit shorter than both Jack and Rohan. I think he has talent and am keen to get him but I have reservations about how good he actually is just because he's a little bit in no man's land based on his size.