Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[D BRIDGE]

No you wouldnt do 8 for a teens and an F2 id have to be a 10-20 pick and an f1 ie 14/17 and f1 from sydney or 13 and f1 from melb.
I agree on humphrey hes the sort of player that if he gets to our pick clubs might be on the phone offering us a lot for our pick.

I didn't mean one of Sydney's 14 or 17 + their F2... I meant both 14 + 17 (which I don't think is enough) + an F2 to chuck up next year's draft a bit more.

It really just depends on how we rate the players available when our first pick comes around on draft night.

 

[Kitcat]

If he has a breakout year. Yes.
If he's same same. Pass.
Still wondering if he is a Ruckman, a CHF, a FF or a CHB.
Jack of all trades a master of none perhaps ??

If TDK can play all of those positions to a reasonable standard, he will be a valuable player. Look at Blics.
Scott has become more flexible when required- Blics switching from ruck to wing to clearances, Henry forward, Atkins to midfield, Cameron wherever he wants.

 

[petrolium]

If TDK can play all of those positions to a reasonable standard, he will be a valuable player. Look at Blics.
Scott has become more flexible when required- Blics switching from ruck to wing to clearances, Henry forward, Atkins to midfield, Cameron wherever he wants.

Hit the nail on the head. I think we might see TDK as a potential Blicavs v2.0

 

[iameviljez]

I don't think we will ever see a better FF in that hulking nature like TomaHawk. His size is of genetic freak levels. He rag dolls most of them, but his skill levels are top notch. If he was playing in 1980s, he would've kicked 1500 goals, lol. Well maybe not that much, but 1200 goals is maybe not out of the question tbh.

Hawkins has been unlucky twice, IMO:

Once, for not playing in the pre-flood era.
Twice, when he did his back in 2013 and never really got back to his previous levels of mobility till 2020.

 

[Jumping Jack]

At this stage everything I'm hearing points to Geelong trading into a better first round pick. No suggestion from anyone I've spoken with off a split with pick 7.

Not sure how they do it or what they have planned, but capitalising on having their best first round pick for a long time. Don't think they'd dilute that position.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

If TDK can play all of those positions to a reasonable standard, he will be a valuable player. Look at Blics.
Scott has become more flexible when required- Blics switching from ruck to wing to clearances, Henry forward, Atkins to midfield, Cameron wherever he wants.

But he is no Mark Blicavs... He isn't a CHF of any note and not really a CHB either.
TDK is a nowhere man at the moment. He plays better ruck than he plays those other positions.
I dunno what to say. I'm a bit mehhh with him atm as he has not done much to warrant the hoopla.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Makes sense to play as a CHB and pinch hit in Ruck. He looks the logical type we would go for Post-Stanley life.

he's gotta show a bit more for me tbh.
But i'd see him as a Ruck come CHF hybrid type.

 

[onlymagic]

At this stage everything I'm hearing points to Geelong trading into a better first round pick. No suggestion from anyone I've spoken with off a split with pick 7.

Not sure how they do it or what they have planned, but capitalising on having their best first round pick for a long time. Don't think they'd dilute that position.

Only way I can think of them doing it, within the current restrictions, is if the trade, say, 7 and FR1 to GC for 5 and one of each of their F2, F3 and F4. This may be better or worse for GC, as far as points go, depending on where the picks all finish next year, though they would have the power of another first rounder in further trades. They could also do the same with Essendon or North, but I don't think they have all of their F2-4's, not to say they couldn't acquire the missing ones in other deals if needed.
Very intriguing.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

I have heard TDK really loves it at Carlton, so I think the chances he'll want to leave are pretty slim.

Ollie loved Collingwood as well i heard... who knows BNF, who knows who to believe.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Only way I can think of them doing it, within the current restrictions, is if the trade, say, 7 and FR1 to GC for 5 and one of each of their F2, F3 and F4. This may be better or worse for GC, as far as points go, depending on where the picks all finish next year, though they would have the power of another first rounder in further trades. They could also do the same with Essendon or North, but I don't think they have all of their F2-4's, not to say they couldn't acquire the missing ones in other deals if needed.
Very intriguing.

Why would they do that??

 

[CatTricks]

I have heard TDK really loves it at Carlton, so I think the chances he'll want to leave are pretty slim.

I'll be shocked if he resigns with them...

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Hit the nail on the head. I think we might see TDK as a potential Blicavs v2.0

One thing missing... He can't run 15kms let alone 10 kms a game.
Blitz is a unicorn. Runs all day that is his One Wood.

 

[onlymagic]

Why would they do that??

Looking to target someone specifically that they think won't last to our current pick. Don't know if I'd do it or not, but it seems the only way they'd currently be able to move up the order.

 

[Shadow89]

At this stage everything I'm hearing points to Geelong trading into a better first round pick. No suggestion from anyone I've spoken with off a split with pick 7.

Not sure how they do it or what they have planned, but capitalising on having their best first round pick for a long time. Don't think they'd dilute that position.

So you're saying they'll take their first round pick if they're happy with who's there (i.e. Clark)...but plans are there to trade into next year rather than split this year, if they miss their target - which they're expecting could be a possibility?

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Looking to target someone specifically that they think won't last to our current pick. Don't know if I'd do it or not, but it seems the only way they'd currently be able to move up the order.

Yeah nah... that wont happen.

 

[Shadow89]

Only way I can think of them doing it, within the current restrictions, is if the trade, say, 7 and FR1 to GC for 5 and one of each of their F2, F3 and F4. This may be better or worse for GC, as far as points go, depending on where the picks all finish next year, though they would have the power of another first rounder in further trades. They could also do the same with Essendon or North, but I don't think they have all of their F2-4's, not to say they couldn't acquire the missing ones in other deals if needed.
Very intriguing.

GC would never do that - as it makes no sense for them. Their Academy gun, Walter, will be a Top 5 pick in 2023, so the 1st rounder would get diluted anyway. They then need their F2, F3, and F4 (plus other picks) to match bids on other academy kids they have lined up. More likely to be pretty much anyone else, rather than GC, given the aforementioned.

 

[Jumping Jack]

So you're saying they'll take their first round pick if they're happy with who's there (i.e. Clark)...but plans are there to trade into next year rather than split this year, if they miss their target - which they're expecting could be a possibility?

All comes down to "live" trading on the night. I think everything points to them sitting tight if Clark gets through to pick 7. If that's looking less likely, then it might mean they try and do something at short notice to jump ahead and get themselves better placed to take Clarke.

Person I spoke to said it's less about pick 1-4 with Clark, but they are not sure what happens on the night with picks 5-10 and that could throw up some surprises and mean they have to react quickly if Clark is at risk of going elsewhere. Apparently very hard to judge what happens after the first 4 picks.

 

[Jumping Jack]

I'll be shocked if he resigns with them...

Is he required at Geelong?

If we're going to throw the kitchen sink at a "name" player from another club I'm not convinced it's SDK despite the obvious link with his brother. Everything I've seen points to him being a ruckman who can go forward at times. Not a forward who occasionally plays in the ruck. So if that's the case, is TDK a priority if we're focusing on Conway with support from Stanley / Ceglar / Esava?

My bet is that he'll sign another contract with Carlton during the season as they'll want to lock him in. Also keep in mind that even though they've locked in Walsh, Curnow and McKay on hefty deals, they can also start to back end deals as all clubs know they'll have a larger cap and more cash once the next TV rights deal starts to kick in.

I'd gladly take TDK but not sure it will happen that easily.

 

[Sky]

Is he required at Geelong?

If we're going to throw the kitchen sink at a "name" player from another club I'm not convinced it's SDK despite the obvious link with his brother. Everything I've seen points to him being a ruckman who can go forward at times. Not a forward who occasionally plays in the ruck. So if that's the case, is TDK a priority if we're focusing on Conway with support from Stanley / Ceglar / Esava?

My bet is that he'll sign another contract with Carlton during the season as they'll want to lock him in. Also keep in mind that even though they've locked in Walsh, Curnow and McKay on hefty deals, they can also start to back end deals as all clubs know they'll have a larger cap and more cash once the next TV rights deal starts to kick in.

I'd gladly take TDK but not sure it will happen that easily.

Agreed and TDK is already on record as saying he would rather play against his brother than with

‘I’d rather play against him’: Meet the De Konings, all 12 of them

Asked what he wanted to be when he grew up, three-year-old Sam De Koning replied: “Better than Tom.” Asked again in grade six, he said: “A Brownlow medallist for Carlton.”

www.theage.com.au

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

All comes down to "live" trading on the night. I think everything points to them sitting tight if Clark gets through to pick 7. If that's looking less likely, then it might mean they try and do something at short notice to jump ahead and get themselves better placed to take Clarke.

Person I spoke to said it's less about pick 1-4 with Clark, but they are not sure what happens on the night with picks 5-10 and that could throw up some surprises and mean they have to react quickly if Clark is at risk of going elsewhere. Apparently very hard to judge what happens after the first 4 picks.

There isn't any way we could trade up in this draft given next year's hand.

The only possible club that would do it Is Gold Coast and we don't have the futures to make it worthwhile for them.

I'm positive that if Clark is taken we'll trade down and better our hand next year at the same time

 

[Shadow89]

All comes down to "live" trading on the night. I think everything points to them sitting tight if Clark gets through to pick 7. If that's looking less likely, then it might mean they try and do something at short notice to jump ahead and get themselves better placed to take Clarke.

Person I spoke to said it's less about pick 1-4 with Clark, but they are not sure what happens on the night with picks 5-10 and that could throw up some surprises and mean they have to react quickly if Clark is at risk of going elsewhere. Apparently very hard to judge what happens after the first 4 picks.

Yeah those are my thoughts too. With that said, only way we trade up this year, is by trading out of the first round next year and receiving a 2nd, 3rd and 4th in return for our troubles. Would be from a team like Essendon possibly, who may be happy to trade 4 and a Future 2nd, 3rd and 4th for 7 and our Future 1st - depending on who they want...but who knows.

Rumours are GC and Hawthorn are our 2 biggest issues, with Brisbane, GWS, North and Essendon not being a factor (hence Picks 1-4/1-5 including Ashcroft not being a problem). Once it gets past there though, then GC and Hawks are a real chance to go with Jhye. If that's the case, we either move up or completely trade out if we don't want anyone else, which could end up being the case if say a club like Adelaide has a prospect they want and want to get back into this draft.

Will be very interesting to see how it all goes, but multiple phantoms now have McKenzie being our pick - which I think I'd be even happier with tbh.

 

[Shadow89]

There isn't any way we could trade up in this draft given next year's hand.

The only possible club that would do it Is Gold Coast and we don't have the futures to make it worthwhile for them.

I'm positive that if Clark is taken we'll trade down and better our hand next year at the same time

It is remote, but there is one way we can do it - which I've cited above: Essendon and their 4, F2, F3 and Sydney F4, for 7 and F1. It's literally the only way besides GC (which won't happen given what has been discussed), but it is still a live possibility. It really depends on how much we've set our sights on Clark, or if we're happy with more than 1 prospect like a Humphrey, McKenzie, Busslinger etc. in our range.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

At this stage everything I'm hearing points to Geelong trading into a better first round pick. No suggestion from anyone I've spoken with off a split with pick 7.

Not sure how they do it or what they have planned, but capitalising on having their best first round pick for a long time. Don't think they'd dilute that position.

Trading up from 7 would require our future 1st which we are not allowed to trade as our fr2 3 and 4 have been traded. So i cant see us going up from 7.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Only way I can think of them doing it, within the current restrictions, is if the trade, say, 7 and FR1 to GC for 5 and one of each of their F2, F3 and F4. This may be better or worse for GC, as far as points go, depending on where the picks all finish next year, though they would have the power of another first rounder in further trades. They could also do the same with Essendon or North, but I don't think they have all of their F2-4's, not to say they couldn't acquire the missing ones in other deals if needed.
Very intriguing.

That makes no sense because walter will get a 1st round bid at gc next year so our future 1st would get swallowed on a bid matcn anyway. And a late fr1 isnt actually much extra points for thrm if they have to give a fr2 3 and 4 back. I suppose we could do that deal with a club that isnt matchinf academy bids but not gc.

 

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

One thing missing... He can't run 15kms let alone 10 kms a game.
Blitz is a unicorn. Runs all day that is his One Wood.

Yep, anyone looking to replicate Blitz is going to have a bad time.

Just to start, you have to find a tough bastard with a huge frame and Olympic level endurance capabilities. Then teach him how to play ruck, wing, midfield and KPD.

Good luck with that.