Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt1

[cats_09]

As we are now getting into the season and we are starting to get a bit more serious with discussion, seems a suitable time to post the following as it's repeatedly shown itself to be a value reference tool in trade & draft discussion

And as per normal, thanks to Lore for putting this together - always a fantastic reference tool



And yes this post is now stickied - makes it easy to keep track of (can easily reverse this though if needed)

 

[cats_09]

It looks like your a fan of Bailey as well cats 09

I like what I saw when I’ve been able to watch the VFL this season, and he does look comfortable in defence - we could do worse in terms of a back-up KPD than going with a player like Bailey for a late ND option or rookie pick if we have a spot open


I also like what is says about our club that Bailey isn’t the first VDH to play in the hoops with sister Sophie (previously drafted to our AFLW team for those unfamiliar) before she then took up the option to play with Essendon when they joined the comp - apparently the team she followed since childhood. Just thinking that unless the siblings don’t get along & never talk to each other, that it’s likely Bailey would have had a chat with Sophie before deciding to make the move down the highway and you can only gather it would have been fairly positive even with Sophie having decided to move on - I somewhat think that if she said it wasn’t an enjoyable experience that Bailey doesn’t necessarily make the move

 

[cats_09]

Why wouldn't Esava have signed already by now?

Especially as it’s reported he has already resisted our offers to re-sign

 

[Pure_Ownage]

And who would that player be

Sweet
Hayes
Reidy
Strachan
Flynn/Preuss

Id like ned moyle but he would cost too much.
Flynn is probably the best of the rest or a DFA type like sweet.

 

[foxdog50]

Sweet
Hayes
Reidy
Strachan
Flynn/Preuss

Id like ned moyle but he would cost too much.
Flynn is probably the best of the rest or a DFA type like sweet.

Id hope it's someone, but I'd like to have herd something by now from the media

 

[iameviljez]

Which players in particular are you worried about from the list? A gun young player will cost our first

I wouldn’t take any of them, I’d back our u18 scouts.

 

[iameviljez]

Try to smile, buddy.

The change he brought about was a positive thing

But in the modern era, he would have been brought back to the AFL by 23, 24.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

How does Doedee fit into our 2024 side with Stewart, SDK, J Henry and Kolo all down back?

You just gave me a mild sense of panic at the thought of Scott putting Kolo on a wing

 

[iameviljez]

I would disagree on this. There are plenty of josh kennedy (swans) types that go from fringe at one club to a gun at another. The key is to pick ones who are stuck behind elite players and who come from great systems (ie fringe players at bottom 4 clubs are rarely good gets but ones from top 4 clubs are).

Kennedy was getting picked at Hawthorn, he played their last ten games in a row that year.

 

[iameviljez]

The aim of the game isn’t making players better above making the team better.

One is the same as the other if you want long term success.

 

[iameviljez]

And who would that player be

No idea, but I didn’t know who Fort or Stephenson were before they came to Geelong

 

[CatToTheFuture]

1 of bugger questions is what's going to happen with our ruck situation .

Obviously we will have Stanley on our list next year ️

Ceglar will retire so we will need another ruck back up.

Conway, there is a huge question mark on him , regarding his body can hold up, there is potential there, but we can't think and hold him that he will be the future for us..️

So are we going to target a Flynn or Sweet or Hayes or Grundy? I hope we don't go for Lycett. But I haven't seen us linked to any rucks drom other clubs in the media besides Darcy which was meant to be fake.

Or do we get a mature ruckman from a state league that can be serviceable and do a job?

Or will we get a Kid from the draft?

After this week I'd target Shannon Neale

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Gonna go out in a different direction in saying that Cowboy Neale will be our second ruck behind Toby Conway with Stanley as our 3rd stringer going into 2024. Foster our 4th option.
I am one of a few that think he’d be a great ruckman. As he was as a junior. He was too quick and agile for traditional rucks in the juniors.
We are as thin as a Masai Warrior in big men.
List management issues leads me to think that Esava will be a priority.
There are no key forwards or defenders out there. I yes a don’t rate McKay one iota.
On the Worpel scenario. I nearly choked on my cheezels when some speculated he was worth a late first early second pick… lol. Please don’t do that to me fellas.
I might be in the minority. On those on our list currentl.
I have plenty of faith in Knevitt, Dempsey and Willis stepping up next season. Even Clark having an impact be it a little one.
Phoenix Foster needs a clear run at it. Injuries have hobbled him from the get go.
Fitness and strength will come and when it does. He’ll be a ripper.
Hopefully pick 6-9 yields something special.
I’m interested in what we do with Parfitt Tuohy Menegola and in particular Hawkins.
If Hawk plays he hinders the development on any youngster.
Damned if u do damned if u don’t scenario.
The other 3 are not going to part of any success going forward.
Just on another note.
George Stevens acquitted himself well today.

 

[catempire]

The change he brought about was a positive thing

But in the modern era, he would have been brought back to the AFL by 23, 24.

Seriously? Ok…

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Any chance dylan stevens from lions? He has been in and out of team

He dominated us in VFL game I watched and now just watching him in afl game he looks good.

Swans?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

- And forget the talk on Parish. I think you’ll find that Worpel is the inside mid target

Jesus I hope not. Hawks will want a serious return for him. Big chance of us getting the dud Worpel not the bnf Worpel

 

[Footy Smarts]

If we're looking at fringe mids they are gettable Paddy Dow

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Paddy Dow

Age

26

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

would be the best out there I think. Only 23, can play decent footy, still lots of physical development and likely to get squeezed out once Cerra, Walsh, etc are back.

 

[calder_daddy]

Jesus I hope not. Hawks will want a serious return for him. Big chance of us getting the dud Worpel not the bnf Worpel

Dud Worpel only existed when Tom Mitchel was there
He’s had a great year this year

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I wonder if the hawks would be interested in one of our fringe players again like with cooper? Dont see an obvious name though.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Dud Worpel only excised when Tom Mitchel was there
He’s had a great year this year

Do you want to bet a first on that continuing here? If Clark or Bruhn come on as hoped then is he just going to turn into a dud then?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I wouldn’t take any of them, I’d back our u18 scouts.

We can do both.
For example still draft u18s at the top end but strategically trade other picks for 20-22year olds that will be 10 year players-henry and bruhn show the value of this.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

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I mean yes that would be a good way to get worpel and keep picks but i doubt sav will agree he wants port.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Kennedy was getting picked at Hawthorn, he played their last ten games in a row that year.

He only did due to injuries. Otherwise he was not best 22 and didnt have a path to be because of their strength of inside mids. This is why you get value bringing in good mids who have blocked paths at top 4 sides.

 

[calder_daddy]

Do you want to bet a first on that continuing here? If Clark or Bruhn come on as hoped then is he just going to turn into a dud then?

That’s a different question and a risk I wouldn’t want to take.
Maybe he’d make the other 2 even better?
Half glass full guy here

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If we're looking at fringe mids they are gettable Paddy Dow would be the best out there I think. Only 23, can play decent footy, still lots of physical development and likely to get squeezed out once Cerra, Walsh, etc are back.

He will i think hes not best 22 when cripps hewett cerra acres walsh kennedy etc are all fit. He has his flaws but he is improving this year and his tank seems to be a bit better. You could probably get him for a pick in the 50s which is good value

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I mean yes that would be a good way to get worpel and keep picks but i doubt sav will agree he wants port.

3 way trade?