Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[FootyLad0]

I know nothing about where he might/mightn't go. But commuting from the surf coast to Footscray seems much easier than every other Melbourne club. So, I don't think it would preclude him from moving there and then just playing for the dogs.

What's noted by a lot of Doggies fans is a lot of players don't actually live in the Footscray/Seddon/Yarraville etc. area.
Think it's like Libba, Weightman and then maybe JJ? Probably a lot of Fringe and VFL blokes who can't afford to live in the really nice areas and need to be closer to Whitten Oval.

The rest all commute in from other locations.
I'm sure there's more than a few guys who live closer to beaches, nicer suburbs and this wouldn't just be a Doggies related thing.

That's the thing nowadays, you don't have to actually LIVE in the area to play for that team like a lot of blokes probably did in the past.

Yes it helps through shitty traffic commutes and if your team is located fairly far away from others eg Geelong being away from Melbourne CBD but there are for damn sure a lot of blokes who live down the Geelong/Surf Coast way who are on good coin and can easily afford trips up and down the coast for training/games for their Melbourne based clubs etc.

Would not surprise me at all if Butters just wanted some prime real estate down the Geelong/Surf Coast area for post footy living. It's an investment, can absolutely see him becoming a Doggies player. Never been confident on him.

Think we are all in on Reid and he is all in on us, it's just removing pesky West Coast standing in the way of making it happen.

 

[FootyLad0]

Twomey is a flipping knob.

Really? I've always found Cal to be insightful and careful in what he says.
He plays up the entertainment side on Gettable because he's on TV/Radio/Media.

He usually doesn't report things unless he has good indications from his sources. You can see he puts in the work.

He's not a Jay Clark, Sam McLure or a Jon Ralph who just spew whatever rubbish they hear and hope it sticks.

 

[Turbocat]

Remember how the media sold the Jezza trade. “First ever side to give up three first rounders.” Meanwhile we got two second rounders not far removed from two of the first rounders coming back but they left that out.

So yeah, I agree doing a deal like this would be a good sell for the media and the fans, which helps Eagles stomach it. And if Reid chooses us as others have mentioned spot on, the deal doesn’t get better next year.

This is why I’m so confident in this deal. This is why Twomey opened his spiel about it only mattering where Reid wants to go. Not the picks, not the cash.

Same with Ryan Daniels implications.

And us being in the box seat this early fares very well.

I feel very confident with us making a bold move like this, especially with our track record for late first round picks being patchy at best.

If we have any chance of trading for a contracted Reid ..West Coast will need to feel they can sell themselves as winners. Probably hard to do in the short term as adding kids will not help their winner mindset Right now it would be interesting to see the odds on who wins a flag first ..West Coast or Tas Devils.

Be interesting to see what "help” they receive from the afl.

 

[Munich]

Really? I've always found Cal to be insightful and careful in what he says.
He plays up the entertainment side on Gettable because he's on TV/Radio/Media.

He usually doesn't report things unless he has good indications from his sources. You can see he puts in the work.

He's not a Jay Clark, Sam McLure or a Jon Ralph who just spew whatever rubbish they hear and hope it sticks.

I've never watched or read anything as he was such a DH when I unfortunately had to deal with him in a building I lived at.

 

[Turbocat]

Question.

Has a Free Agent ever moved to another club then 12 months been traded back to the original club? Gunston was close to this but did not move as a free agent. It might appear a manipulative way to develop a comp pick if a player wanted to have a change for 12 months but If a player gets home sick after 12 months whos to say its not legit.

 

[standupand]

Question.

Has a Free Agent ever moved to another club then 12 months been traded back to the original club? Gunston was close to this but did not move as a free agent. It might appear a manipulative way to develop a comp pick if a player wanted to have a change for 12 months but If a player gets home sick after 12 months whos to say its not legit.

We were just about 6 years late on this for GAJ.

I like your thinking. Got to get creative on generating picks when you're stuck at the top of the ladder for so long.

 

[Strange Cat]

The only thing I don’t like about the proposed Reid trade is giving so much up for one player , you could argue it was the same with JC but he was well established and honestly (don’t attack me) aside from 2022 he hasn’t really been at the level since

 

[D BRIDGE]

The only thing I don’t like about the proposed Reid trade is giving so much up for one player , you could argue it was the same with JC but he was well established and honestly (don’t attack me) aside from 2022 he hasn’t really been at the level since

Is it the proposed 3x picks that would land around #20 or the ones in the 40/50 range you think will come back to bite us?

Personally, I think we would be bending WC over if they hand Reid over to us for a bunch of very average selections.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I wonder if Geelong will put Conway or Edwards on the long term injury list before the MSD? If the club is taking a long term approach, is it worth maybe putting Edwards on that list and maybe looking at a Mature Age ruckman? As Stanley 35 and is on his lat year, Blitz is 34 and as much as durable he is we can't put it all on him?
Bloody worth a thought

I think they might want conway/Edwards playing some vfl. But yes I would probably inactive someone like Guthrie (assuming they won't let us do it with bruhn) and get a mature ruck to cover the Stanley injury. But u doubt the club will.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The only thing I don’t like about the proposed Reid trade is giving so much up for one player , you could argue it was the same with JC but he was well established and honestly (don’t attack me) aside from 2022 he hasn’t really been at the level since

It's a risk but the payoff could be massive and he won't come cheaper than that price.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That applies next year when he's out of contract. When was the last time an out of contract player didn't get where they wanted to go?

This year he's still contracted so West Coast do have the option to just say no like we did with Tim Kelly.

Correct.thinking it will happen this year is fanciful. But next year we can do it if we trade 3 years worth of picks.

 

[cats_09]

I think they might want conway/Edwards playing some vfl. But yes I would probably inactive someone like Guthrie (assuming they won't let us do it with bruhn) and get a mature ruck to cover the Stanley injury. But u doubt the club will.

Guthrie & Martin have both started to be integrated back in to main training and they're currently looking at VFL is 3 weeks - neither of them will be added to the long term injury list

 

[Turbocat]

The only thing I don’t like about the proposed Reid trade is giving so much up for one player , you could argue it was the same with JC but he was well established and honestly (don’t attack me) aside from 2022 he hasn’t really been at the level since

Probably need someone like catempire or Lana for the exact numbers but id suspect the failure rate of players taken post 20-25 …. would mean from 5 picks we probably see 2 to 3 good players play over 100 games for them. Maybe 2 guys become top liners for them but if I were comparing it to the Cameron trade ..the players taken with the R1’s and the players we took with the R2 … I dont think anyone has really made that trade look bad.

Article on AFL mentioned the paradigm of Stars and Soldiers and thats where the AFL is or heading towards…. Id say that the biggest sin in that type of comp is to be with no Stars. We see what Danger has become , we probably were lucky but we need to replace him or at least try to. Again we are lucky if someone Reid supports us and wants to come to us. (apparently) If can get it done for the proposed theoretical trade .. id say its worth the risk. (Although I have doubts WC accept though.)

I wonder what it would take to get hold of the top10 R1 pick from Gold Coast ..as that would give us a real chance imo.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That is a great deal for Port. So essentially they gave up 2 firsts, 43, 53, 57, for JHF and Rioli. There was a swap of second and thirds that nearly cancel each other out.

That deal depended on a 3rd party wce doing a stupid trade down as they didn't rate their pick value right and were convinced sheezel and wardlaw would leave. I doubt a 3rd club rescues us like this with this trade.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Guthrie & Martin have both started to be integrated back in to main training and they're currently looking at VFL is 3 weeks - neither of them will be added to the long term injury list

Guthrie isn't going to be durable enough to play in the afl side again so the point is what?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Who?

Duncan.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

And they're going to almost always be flankers and wingers.

The difference in physicality between playing against kids and part time journeymen in the VFL compared to going head to head with Gawn, Xerri, Nankervis, etc is enormous.

Every time someone suggests we should just pick up a state league ruck I remember that a completely cooked Ceglar absolutely dominated VFL in his last year. Realistically even if we find one good enough they'll take 2 years to be physically ready.

Someone needs to get an extra 5cm on Oliver Eastland somehow.

 

[cats_09]

Guthrie isn't going to be durable enough to play in the afl side again so the point is what?

Because he's played 240 games in the Hoops, he's a premiership player, had worn an All Australian blazer and is dual best & fairest winner - he's earned the right to give himself the best chance of playing senior football this season and being the one to make the call on his future, rather than the club essentially calling time on his career

We need to realise that there's simply no stand out state ruck that's calling for selection at the MSD - Keogh who had been tipped to go to Essendon is now out for the year due to injury, and suggestions are their attention is on Ajang Kuol Mun. If that's who a team with less ruck options than us is looking at, it gives a good indication of the lack of quality options that look like being available

Besides, we've currently got 8 players on our list capable of playing in the ruck and the club will continue back in those players to be able to get the job done this year


The other factor to consider - Stanley is already back running, and not expected to be out for too long and the MSD isn't for another 2.5 weeks, so Stanley could be back before then anyway

 

[Lana]

Guthrie isn't going to be durable enough to play in the afl side again so the point is what?

Never say never, I think he could still have a few Duncan like games left in him.

 

[foxdog50]

For every 70 Boyd's, there is 1 Mannagh.

No sh!t Sherlock

 

[foxdog50]

Mannagh had to be out there before we picked him, he was talked about years before we grabbed him, it wouldn't have been out of place if someone grabbed him 12 months before we did. In the same way Boyd was talked about as a serious prospect for quite a bit before he got his chance to be on an AFL list.

I don't see a mature prospect with any amount of hype that after viewing makes me think they have AFL like attributes.

While clubs want to fill a specific role in this case a ruckmen, clubs don't draft a "ruckman" in they draft a specific player.

What ever...

 

[foxdog50]

Yeah, but Mannagh wasn't just the best ruckman in the VFL, he was arguably the best player in the VFL, and came off a frankly incredible performance in the GF.

I can't think of many mature-aged ruckmen who have elevated out of the state leagues and done really well. Meanwhile, Fort, Abbott, Stephenson...

Wouldn't Fort be a handy player for Geelong now... Yes

 

[foxdog50]

I think they might want conway/Edwards playing some vfl. But yes I would probably inactive someone like Guthrie (assuming they won't let us do it with bruhn) and get a mature ruck to cover the Stanley injury. But u doubt the club will.

If you believe the Geelong injury list Guthrie is only 3 weeks away

 

[Grimoz]

I have no doubt that West Coast will ask for Humphries in any trade for Reid.

 

[Mr Meow]

No sh!t Sherlock

So in other words, for every Boyd there is NOT another Mannagh, my dear Watson.