Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[iameviljez]

Correct. Which is why curnow wont Get traded anywhere because Carlton will set the price too high.

I honestly think Sydney could get it done. Top 10 pick plus whatever steak knives would be enough, when you factor in that Curnow has now asked to get out for two years in a row.

 

[Reg Hickey]

So many contacted players this year expecting to move from ordinary clubs .. how do the deals get done? Especially ina year with what is considered a poor draft ..and the afl have made it harder to trade for picks from the academy clubs by changing the points system ..when previously they might trade them as long as they have enough points in total.

Yet one see the media continually push the line as if the contracted player can just be traded…. like how does Geelong get a deal done for CC

I would say ..why would a contracted Shannon Neale agree to the trade… let alone why we would want to trade him just as he is coming into his own


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The inability to trade contracts without player permission ..means a reliance on draft picks ..which in itself is an irony as what is a draft pick but an enforced method of player movement.

We will not force adult men in the system on significant money to move yet ..we are happy to dictate to boys to men that they must go to where they are allocated for a base contract…(unless of course they are of the upper class draftee that is a father son or an academy kid or nga )

I'd be shattered if we handed over Shannon and a pick for Curnow.
I don't think I need to explain why that's a terrible deal for us.

 

[iameviljez]

Marshall and Ryan in a 3 way trade has always made the most sense to me. Why put Marshall forward where he's kicked all of 15 goals in a year ever? You could be using him to get an actual forward line player to play there.

Completely agree. Players who have played the majority of their careers in the ruck always make terrible full-time forwards; the era of playing two proper ruckmen died in the mid-2010s.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

In view of OHenry’s drop off in form this season, my guess is that there is an injury and/or off field issue that the club will be expecting to resolve next year. He is a handy player to have up our sleeve should we get forward injuries in the finals

FWIW OH is really just a depth/insurance player.
Not even handy these days.
Not a starter.
Not even in our best 23 TBH.
Showed a bit of potential, showed some signs of real promise.
In the end delivered very little on the return we got for Cooper Stephens and a Pick 25.
In saying that Cooper would've been delisted by now and as for pick 25... which turned in 28 were all spuds in that year's draft.
So in the end... we have a depth player that we hope can apply himself to elevate his status amongst the playing group to become an important cog in that team.
Thats the hope. But for me. I see a delisted player after his contract ends in 2027.
I'd say Polkinghorne and even the youngster Jesse Mellor will be ahead of him when 2027 comes IMO.

 

[goyoucatters]

I'd be shattered if we handed over Shannon and a pick for Curnow.
I don't think I need to explain why that's a terrible deal for us.

Most importantly, you don't need to explain it to our list management team.

Put it this way, Jed Bews is as much chance of lining up in Carlton's forward line next season as Shannon Neale.

 

[dazbroncos]

So many contacted players this year expecting to move from ordinary clubs .. how do the deals get done? Especially ina year with what is considered a poor draft ..and the afl have made it harder to trade for picks from the academy clubs by changing the points system ..when previously they might trade them as long as they have enough points in total.

Yet one see the media continually push the line as if the contracted player can just be traded…. like how does Geelong get a deal done for CC

I would say ..why would a contracted Shannon Neale agree to the trade… let alone why we would want to trade him just as he is coming into his own


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The inability to trade contracts without player permission ..means a reliance on draft picks ..which in itself is an irony as what is a draft pick but an enforced method of player movement.

We will not force adult men in the system on significant money to move yet ..we are happy to dictate to boys to men that they must go to where they are allocated for a base contract…(unless of course they are of the upper class draftee that is a father son or an academy kid or nga )

what 12 year old on school holidays wrote this shit?

We trade Scratcher and a 2nd for Curnow on dodgy knees and with 3 years left? YOu must be ****ing dreaming.

Curnow is a better player than Neale right now.... but one is speeding up and the other slowing down.

Im good holding what we have thanks. Now if Curnow comes out and says on Geelong.... im still not trading Neale for him but ill take Curnow on the cheaper trade price..... or not.

GO Catters

 

[bombersboy]

We are about to start the first week of finals, going in with a double chance and a chance of a flag so why are we even giving air to any of this? Neale is a real chance to go past Curnow next year and play for the next 10 years. Plus he loves the club.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

We are about to start the first week of finals, going in with a double chance and a chance of a flag so why are we even giving air to any of this? Neale is a real chance to go past Curnow next year and play for the next 10 years. Plus he loves the club.

Boredom.

There's only so many ways you can talk about how Brisbane's going to beat us, or how we're going to beat Brisbane over the course of two weeks (thanks AFL).

Everyone knows what the side needs to do, it's all up to them now.

Nevertheless, we'll all probably be flooding the thread by 6.20pm tomorrow.

 

[goyoucatters]

There's only so many ways you can talk about how Brisbane's going to beat us, or how we're going to beat Brisbane over the course of two weeks (thanks AFL).

So exciting to think that the AFL is about to scrap the farce that is the pre-finals bye and replace it with an even bigger debacle in the form of a wildcard round.

You seriously couldn't make this nonsense up. And every one of these inane decisions marked by their grubby mitts as they feverishly grasp the almighty dollar.

#theyhavebutonedream
#followthemoney

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

FWIW OH is really just a depth/insurance player.
Not even handy these days.
Not a starter.
Not even in our best 23 TBH.
Showed a bit of potential, showed some signs of real promise.
In the end delivered very little on the return we got for Cooper Stephens and a Pick 25.
In saying that Cooper would've been delisted by now and as for pick 25... which turned in 28 were all spuds in that year's draft.
So in the end... we have a depth player that we hope can apply himself to elevate his status amongst the playing group to become an important cog in that team.
Thats the hope. But for me. I see a delisted player after his contract ends in 2027.
I'd say Polkinghorne and even the youngster Jesse Mellor will be ahead of him when 2027 comes IMO.

Straight swap for Curnow.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I just assumed he was carrying some niggle, and/or he's the sort of player who needs to be close to 100% fit to feel confident and in a good headspace.

Excellent 2023, started off 2024 pretty well (was something like 25 goals after 10 games which is fine), then missed a stretch and was on/off as sub a few times, and just never got back into the swing of it apart from the Prelim.

The just never really got going in 2025.

As if he copped a knock or nagging injury that he couldn't shake in mid 2024, and it just wrecked his momentum and confidence.

A niggle could be part of it but I also think he has a 1 wood of picking holes in a zone defence and getting a run and jump either into space or front of pack. If the defenders are wise to him they just need minimal body on him to disrupt.

Not sure where to from here.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Any chance of Tom blemires?? What sort of player is he??

 

[moond0g]

I honestly think Sydney could get it done. Top 10 pick plus whatever steak knives would be enough, when you factor in that Curnow has now asked to get out for two years in a row.

I agree. The only caveat would be that Voss knows that he is basically coaching for his future next year, the club in general also don't seem to think they are in rebuild mode.

This makes it difficult to see how they would let one of their best players walk while in contract.

 

[Turbocat]

I have no issue with this. 18 year olds aren't as tied down as men in their 20s and 30s - they usually don't have marriage-like relationships, they don't have kids, their parents are usually in rude health, they don't have a house, they aren't in the prime of their career, etc etc. It's a lot easier to pick up your life and move across the country when you're young.

I do. Its not just 18 year olds in the draft is it. Kelly was mid 20’s and had a family. Mannagh is another. There are plenty that are not 18.

My point is if its good enough for the kids then ther should be a mechanism that allows clubs to trade contracts.. Now maybe their is a bonus for the player of some sort ..maybe there is a cut off after so long in the comp etc..but being able to trade the contract and push the player should be allowed to some degree.

 

[Turbocat]

what 12 year old on school holidays wrote this shit?

We trade Scratcher and a 2nd for Curnow on dodgy knees and with 3 years left? YOu must be ****ing dreaming.

Curnow is a better player than Neale right now.... but one is speeding up and the other slowing down.

Im good holding what we have thanks. Now if Curnow comes out and says on Geelong.... im still not trading Neale for him but ill take Curnow on the cheaper trade price..... or not.

GO Catters

I read the first line and thought …gee thats a bit harsh by Daz I didn’t think my post was that crook. LOL

 

[Turbocat]

I'd be shattered if we handed over Shannon and a pick for Curnow.
I don't think I need to explain why that's a terrible deal for us.

I cant think of the last time we did a deal like that so ..I think its Hsun fantasy trade stuff. If we end up with Curnow… I could see us trading as many picks as we could be I doubt we give away someone like the mad Mexican. Hey Tequila.

 

[Warhorse]

we may get Marshall in a fire sale
the way saints are spending

$2mill NWM
$1.8 TDK
$850 Little SOS
$800 Leek
$?? Ryan

add to this the pay rises they have already handed out and the ones they still have to do.

St kilda are struggling to make the cap floor

 

[CatToTheFuture]

what 12 year old on school holidays wrote this shit?

We trade Scratcher and a 2nd for Curnow on dodgy knees and with 3 years left? YOu must be ****ing dreaming.

Curnow is a better player than Neale right now.... but one is speeding up and the other slowing down.

Im good holding what we have thanks. Now if Curnow comes out and says on Geelong.... im still not trading Neale for him but ill take Curnow on the cheaper trade price..... or not.

GO Catters

Even then scratcher has a higher goal kicking average this year

 

[CatToTheFuture]

St kilda are struggling to make the cap floor

Not for long apparently

 

[Turbocat]

FWIW OH is really just a depth/insurance player.
Not even handy these days.
Not a starter.
Not even in our best 23 TBH.
Showed a bit of potential, showed some signs of real promise.
In the end delivered very little on the return we got for Cooper Stephens and a Pick 25.
In saying that Cooper would've been delisted by now and as for pick 25... which turned in 28 were all spuds in that year's draft.
So in the end... we have a depth player that we hope can apply himself to elevate his status amongst the playing group to become an important cog in that team.
Thats the hope. But for me. I see a delisted player after his contract ends in 2027.
I'd say Polkinghorne and even the youngster Jesse Mellor will be ahead of him when 2027 comes IMO.

Totally disagree but thats why we are here to share different opinions.

The guy kicked 4 in a PF. He has talent. He need to do so work and get better in his areas of weakness. I think his dropping this year should be a soft shake on the shoulder. Improve you set shot. Get better over the ground. Work harder ..etc

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I honestly think Sydney could get it done. Top 10 pick plus whatever steak knives would be enough, when you factor in that Curnow has now asked to get out for two years in a row.

No way.
One Carlton wont want picks. Pick 9 is around where Dean gets bid so pointless and their next years first isn't appealing.
And 2 they will want players (and not fringe salary dumps like florent)
Carlton will ask for heeney or Gulden but they know its no chance.
Papley and a couple of high picks will get it done. If he doesn't move maybe Hayward (who they chased last year) or maybe someone like rowbottom or mcinerney etc.
But if they aren't prepared to part with best 22 players its no chance and same with Geelong if he Came here.

 

[Turbocat]

No way.
One Carlton wont want picks. Pick 9 is around where Dean gets bid so pointless and their next years first isn't appealing.
And 2 they will want players (and not fringe salary dumps like florent)
Carlton will ask for heeney or Gulden but they know its no chance.
Papley and a couple of high picks will get it done. If he doesn't move maybe Hayward (who they chased last year) or maybe someone like rowbottom or mcinerney etc.
But if they aren't prepared to part with best 22 players its no chance and same with Geelong if he Came here.

Interesting. I would say if Syd want to get it done they could. As yet another academy club they have talent coming thru. I agree on the carlton FSon … but I can see him slipping thru to late R1. Id doubt any pick they get would be compromised by his drafting …but I guess under certain estimates it might be close. If in doubt maybe they upgrade their R1 with GC. They would be worried about that pick and the academy players id have thought.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Gotta laugh at the Blues lack of self awareness. Multiple mods starting conversations or threads about St.K being a rabble in light of TDK and JSOS.

1. What does that say about the Blues that 2 players, including a 3rd gen. Bluebagger would rather play there... And under RTB no less.
2. They've had a better 21st millenia than Carlton.

Know your place baggers, and stay well in your lane in future.

 

[Spearman]

Very interesting doco for someone who knows little about the American game and that player certainly had his mental health issues.

At times, I could see how our game could almost look semi professional in comparison to theirs ..everything seemed amped up including bad attitude, poor behaviour, private ownership and administration and players caught up in a miasma of self importance and being given credit for success.

One aspect that interested me was when the 2 time super bowl winner was replaced by another coach ..and the new coach leaned more towards trusting players and expecting the players to be professionals etc.. and some ex players disliked that they lost stern voice and the hard hand. .. The new coaches attitude seemed very modern yet was considered less successful ..and to this day some players believed they would have done more with their group with the bombastic dictatorial coach.

American football requires a lot revving up because it is such a physical sport, especially in the older days (like AusRules). I started in junior high and there was a lot of 'staring at the big mirror next the door to challenge yourself' as we left the locker rooms, or the one on one toughness drills regardless of size and position of the players. A lot of players started earlier than me, so it is ingrained. Coaches always preach dominance over your opponent and even practices are violent.
The old game is well portrayed in the book North Dallas Forty. Fear and adrenaline. I think the modern pro game, with the amount of money many make changes it a lot. The edge isn't anger, but ability to afford the supplements to get over injuries more quickly.
There still are some coaches that are old school shouters, but to a certain extent it doesn't work on the pro level anymore. Look at what happened when an exceptional college coach tried it in the pros...Urban Meyer. Veteran players are businessmen, private contractors.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

So st kilda is spending about 6 mil in contracts bringing in players, and the players they are getting will most likely barely make them a better side