Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

2025 AFL Draft and Trade Dates:​

Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

 

[goyoucatters]

Any good speedy outside midfielders with good footskills that we can get with our 2nd pick?

In what is reputedly one of the poorest drafts ever for players who are not already committed to a specific club, I'm figuring we would all be best to take Darryl Kerrigan's wisdom on board when it comes to our expectations for seeing your dream realised this time around.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

50/50 to Stevens still being on in the hoops next season

Mellor to be selected but unsure if we'll commit to Rongdit - basing that on not hearing much about either of our NGAs in terms of draft speculated

I would have thought if we were looking at rongdit we would have delisted pike or not relist kmf to open another rookie spot (although i suppose we may want to cat b rongdit). I think with the injury maybe no one drafts him and if he plays state league next year we could always take him in 12 months.
Stevens I think we re rookie unless someone cuts our lunch.
With mellor the fact that we didnt delist bews or Wiltshire makes it interesting as we only have 2 senior spots. So we either have to take mellor at 40 or if we take someone else we have to roll the dice on him getting through to the end of draft so we can pre select him as a rookie (which is no doubt what we want). If someone takes him late in the ND we wont have any list spots to match and will lose him ala what we did to st kilda with Hoffman (i am assuming we cant match mellor and then delist Wiltshire the day after the draft id have to check the rules on this).

Obviously one solution is to trade 19 into next year and just take 40 as a player and then match mellor later as the 2 ND picks. But I doubt anyone will want to trade decent future picks for 19.
For this reason im surprised we didnt delist Wiltshire (we could have always picked him back up as a train on over summer if we wanted).

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Any good speedy outside midfielders with good footskills that we can get with our 2nd pick?

The non academy draft will be thin where we will pick but still options.
I do really like either addinsall or Murray for this and I think they might pass on one. Im also a fan of Carmichael (if Sydney dont match) as i think he can be a winner at the next level. Williams has this type of explosiveness (which might be why we are keen) but I also think his height is a limiting factor and we have too many of that type. I actually think prindable could be really good value as a layer pick (maybe 40 not 19) if brisbane dont match.koby Evans is definitely this type of player if you can wear the injury risk.F-rod is too although his consistency isnt what i hoped it would be but the traits are there. I think Harry kyle is worth a shout too.
Of the non academy guys I can see us liking NHH (although he is too boom or bust for me). Although Lindsay isnt quick his decision making is great and im sure we would take him at 19 if he gets there. Assuming the obvious ones like farrow and cumming don't get through i can see us looking at Barker if the Crows dont take him (although i dont like our track record with first rounders with major injuries).

Wouldn’t be averse to bidding on Addinsall with pick 19. Like the cut of his jib.

I like addinsall and with coulsons ties to GC it would be either addinsall or Murray they let go IF they are short on points.

Twomey said on gettable that Holmes could slip all the way to a rookie pick.

Not surprising his kicking is so bad I wont he surprised if he isnt picked at all.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Been reported that Geelong have an interest in drafting Marcus Herbert and Tobyn Murray from our vfl team. Apparently both players had medicals at the club, not really sure why they’d need that having trained at the club all year. I would imagine if we did pick one up it’d be a rookie pick and only one of them.
I wouldn’t mind Herbert on the list, he could really improve with time in the afl system.

 

[Gyno79]

Blues also keen on Murray apparently

 

[Lana]

Been reported that Geelong have an interest in drafting Marcus Herbert and Tobyn Murray from our vfl team. Apparently both players had medicals at the club, not really sure why they’d need that having trained at the club all year. I would imagine if we did pick one up it’d be a rookie pick and only one of them.
I wouldn’t mind Herbert on the list, he could really improve with time in the afl system.

Can't see how we fit both in. Would prefer Herbert over Murray who needs a little more polish and constistancy. His best work makes you believe and then at other times he burns opportunities with bad decision making. Us keeping Whiltshire for another year makes me think it isn't Murray's time yet.

I think Herbert moves like he is already on an AFL list, just extremely well rounded just lacks a weapon. Kicking is more solid then spectacular, not fast, not slow a bit vanilla but at VFL level he is often the playmaker on the outside. Not sure if he'll be hitting those 45 kicks into the middle at AFL level.

With a more tailored gym program, the hope would be that he'd add a bit more size and power. Humphries is kind of standing where he want to be, and yet he doesn't really have either of that.

 

[Phill Hendo]

I would have preferred to stick with Clohesy than draft Herbert or Murray. Same with Whiltshire for that matter.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Been reported that Geelong have an interest in drafting Marcus Herbert and Tobyn Murray from our vfl team. Apparently both players had medicals at the club, not really sure why they’d need that having trained at the club all year. I would imagine if we did pick one up it’d be a rookie pick and only one of them.
I wouldn’t mind Herbert on the list, he could really improve with time in the afl system.

If we were looking to take both of them i would have expected that we would have cleared more list spots. 2 senior spots and only one cat a spot (excluding the cat b rookie spot that we would be hoping mellor gets to) leaves limited room to move. Although we may just take someone like Murray at the back of the ND like we have done with other vfl guys.

 

[iameviljez]

I would have preferred to stick with Clohesy than draft Herbert or Murray. Same with Whiltshire for that matter.

Yes, but... there is something to say for the improvement implicit in transitioning from a part-time to a full-time footballer.

 

[bombersboy]

I'm guessing that this KMF guy had his contract torn up and paid out. Hence 'delisted'.

Unlikely as if we redraft him it would cost us another $100k for the new contract. I think the only way we have to pay him out is if another club picks him up.

When are the list lodgement dates? Does that impact things?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Unlikely as if we redraft him it would cost us another $100k for the new contract. I think the only way we have to pay him out is if another club picks him up.

When are the list lodgement dates? Does that impact things?

Delisted players have to nominate for the drafts by this wed (12th) to be picked up.
Drafts are then 19th and 20th with the rookie draft on the 21st. 2nd list lodgement is on the 21st and then the final list lodgement is 24/11 with the pssp then opening in dec/jan

 

[Tony Barber]

Unlikely as if we redraft him it would cost us another $100k for the new contract. I think the only way we have to pay him out is if another club picks him up.

When are the list lodgement dates? Does that impact things?

Well if this is correct.
Point 2 is extremely important.

Because match payments are $4k

Delisting/Paying Out​

Delisting is when you remove a player from the list, most commonly when their contract runs out and you don’t give them a new one. A team can delist a player with years left on their contract, which works as follows:

• They are removed from the list
• They get paid the remaining amount of their contract as if they had played every week (so 23 lots of match payments plus any other matches played bonuses)
• The amount paid out is counted against the salary cap in the year they’re paid out. So if a player has three years to go on a contract in 2025 and you delist them, you need to be able to afford to pay all three of those years in 2025.
• If another club then picks them up, the payout is reduced by the size of their new contract (“no unjust enrichment”)

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Well if this is correct.
Point 2 is extremely important.

Because match payments are $4k

Delisting/Paying Out​

Delisting is when you remove a player from the list, most commonly when their contract runs out and you don’t give them a new one. A team can delist a player with years left on their contract, which works as follows:

• They are removed from the list
• They get paid the remaining amount of their contract as if they had played every week (so 23 lots of match payments plus any other matches played bonuses)
• The amount paid out is counted against the salary cap in the year they’re paid out. So if a player has three years to go on a contract in 2025 and you delist them, you need to be able to afford to pay all three of those years in 2025.
• If another club then picks them up, the payout is reduced by the size of their new contract (“no unjust enrichment”)

Pretty sure point 4 would take those bonus payments back because they'd get paid match bonuses twice and that wpuld be unjust enrichment

 

[Tony Barber]

Pretty sure point 4 would take those bonus payments back because they'd get paid match bonuses twice and that wpuld be unjust enrichment

Assuming he played 23 games at AFL level. And yep, you'd be correct.

 

[BigCat1]

There will be some club desperate to jump back in. Trade the first pick out and then hope and prey we have an extra pick around 10 next year to trade with.

Our pick this year is in limbo land. Wells will have two obscure (but probably good) players in mind so pick numbers are irrelevant.

Draft sliders mean nothing to Geelong. Giants and Port are the same

 

[Pure_Ownage]

There will be some club desperate to jump back in. Trade the first pick out and then hope and prey we have an extra pick around 10 next year to trade with.

Our pick this year is in limbo land. Wells will have two obscure (but probably good) players in mind so pick numbers are irrelevant.

Draft sliders mean nothing to Geelong. Giants and Port are the same

Not this year. Because of the uncertainty around the bid matching changes for next year a lot of clubs will hold their future 1sts. The only club I can see maybe wanting to shop their future 1st is adelaide or possibly st kilda (this depends on whether they actually want phillipou or not) other than that i expect minimal trading movement with futures.

 

[Schmuck]

Although id rather be in this position than a team that has 7 selections on draft night, I feel as though there is a fair bit of excitement lacking in this years draft as a cats supporter.

Seems as though we may have only 1, maybe 2 selections between both drafts where the player we will be taking isn’t already known

 

[jim boy]

Well if this is correct.
Point 2 is extremely important.

Because match payments are $4k

Delisting/Paying Out​

Delisting is when you remove a player from the list, most commonly when their contract runs out and you don’t give them a new one. A team can delist a player with years left on their contract, which works as follows:

• They are removed from the list
• They get paid the remaining amount of their contract as if they had played every week (so 23 lots of match payments plus any other matches played bonuses)
• The amount paid out is counted against the salary cap in the year they’re paid out. So if a player has three years to go on a contract in 2025 and you delist them, you need to be able to afford to pay all three of those years in 2025.
• If another club then picks them up, the payout is reduced by the size of their new contract (“no unjust enrichment”)

Point 4 is the only thing that matters here for KMF. He is almost certainly staying with us as a rookie (very unlikely anyone else will nab him), so he is either getting a new contract which will match whatever is left on his current contract - or he is just seeing out his current contract (I dont know how that works) hence no payout or changes to TPP etc. He would be on minimum coin now.

 

[eaglevision]

Catters I have drawn Geelong for our mock draft. Any pressing list needs in terms of position?

 

[cats_09]

Catters I have drawn Geelong for our mock draft. Any pressing list needs in terms of position?

#1 ruck would be nice

But honestly, with only 2 senior list spots open and potentially only 1 Cat A rookie should we be able to re-draft both Stevens and KM-F, it's most likely going to be best available at our pick and potentially Mellor as our NGA option

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Catters I have drawn Geelong for our mock draft. Any pressing list needs in terms of position?

Ruck obviously but this isnt a great pool for that (imo). Since we only have 2 senior spots and 1 rookie spot we wont do much except best available.
But we need a bid bodied inside mid (someone more athletic than George stevens though), a small defender and we could possibly use a key forward (depends how much we rate some of the ones we drafted last year).
Don't need small forwards.

 

[eaglevision]

Ruck obviously but this isnt a great pool for that (imo). Since we only have 2 senior spots and 1 rookie spot we wont do much except best available.
But we need a bid bodied inside mid (someone more athletic than George stevens though), a small defender and we could possibly use a key forward (depends how much we rate some of the ones we drafted last year).
Don't need small forwards.

I’ll see if West Coast will package up Tim Kelly for us.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Catters I have drawn Geelong for our mock draft. Any pressing list needs in terms of position?

It might sound funny, but it's mostly as simple as best player available and literally anyone except Greeves.

If they're available, Oskar Taylor, Schubert, and Barker would be players that feel like prototypical Wells picks IMO if we were betting on it.

He'll look for raw transferable traits to AFL level (athleticism, wingspan, kicking, and especially running power) over production from more traditional style footballers like Greeves.

It's part of why we're often boom or bust early, and tend to pick the eyes out with late picks. It's a lot of swinging for the fences and betting on development.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Its been reported that we're interested in Tom Blamires, the latest Fothergill-Round-Mitchell medallist from Frankston in the VFL.

From what I can tell he's a 23yo 181cm hard running defender/midfielder. Solid decision maker and ball user. Strong body. Sounds like a good fit for our needs and just the sort of guy Mackie & Wells could surprise us all with at 19.

Does anyone know if we're actually into this guy, or we just get thrown into the conversation because we have form (Mannagh, Pods, Kelly, etc)?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

There will be some club desperate to jump back in. Trade the first pick out and then hope and prey we have an extra pick around 10 next year to trade with.

Our pick this year is in limbo land. Wells will have two obscure (but probably good) players in mind so pick numbers are irrelevant.

Draft sliders mean nothing to Geelong. Giants and Port are the same

Draft sliders if history has taught us anything are a huge red flag. If anything they end up delisted and go nowhere.

George stevens the latest exhibition added to the list of sliders.

Before him also add dev robertson...