Analysis Giants captaincy - where to from here?

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There was a great deal of enthusiasm last year when Coniglio was announced as our first standalone captain, taking over from Ward and Davis.

But with two rounds to go, he now finds himself dropped on form after constant under-performance, and terrible inconsistency from the team. Something is clearly not working.

I remember watching Ward a few years ago during the pre-season game at BISP. When he was interchanged and came off, I noticed he wasn't happy about something and then spoke in a way that demanded attention. You could hear his authority and he was obeyed immediately.

There's no doubt Coniglio is admired because he's an outstanding person, but is that enough?

Who else would have what it takes? It has to be someone who not only commands respect from the playing group, but can carry the psychological weight of leadership.

It's a difficult question. Do we persist with Coniglio, or move back to Phil Davis? Or perhaps consider Josh Kelly?

Thoughts?
 

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Its probably worth rehashing the story of how Cogs was only prepared to captain if he was the solo captain and maybe if that wasn't his mindset he would have handled this difficult year a bit better.

The move underlined just how acrimonious some relationships must have become at times in 2019 - a season that began for the Giants with an internally controversial and previously unreported player leadership process. In a complex and unusual captaincy decision Coniglio was voted in as co-captain with Phil Davis ahead of Callan Ward. But what followed - and Campbell appears to have shouldered the blame for this - was that Ward ultimately reassumed the role he has held since the birth of the club. This occurred because Coniglio would not share the captaincy. This was nothing against Davis but the younger man did not want to act as co-captain.
 

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Its probably worth rehashing the story of how Cogs was only prepared to captain if he was the solo captain and maybe if that wasn't his mindset he would have handled this difficult year a bit better.


The circumstances around Cogs captaincy rubbed me the wrong way after I found out that he didn't want to share the captaincy.

Now fair enough if he thought it was in his best interest to leader as the sole captain, or that the team was going to better for it, but I think it was the wrong move and always had the risk of sending the wrong message.

I genuinely think he's a great person, and has some learned leadership traits, but there's still some lacking. When you see Davis and Ward, they are captain personified, in their own way. I don't think there's one way to be a leader but there's certainly a way to be one and for me, Cogs doesn't have it or hasn't found it, yet.
 

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I agree with Gigantic. I think that many of us were keen for our first home-grown captain, and Cogs' workload and skill on the field, and his stature off it, seemed to be 100% the way to go. I must admit, though, that reading about his refusal to accept co-captaincy took some of the gloss off. For him , it would have actually been a good option (in hindsight) - a chance to learn from an experienced and universally admired captain in Phil Davis, while still on his captaincy training wheels. Phil could have shielded him from some stuff that Cogs has had to deal with alone. Such an approach would not have seen any slight, and given GWS' stature, its recent start etc there was no tradition, no culture that really impeded such a mature approach. Had he known how tough this year would be (and I mean COVID situation not his personal form), perhaps he would have chosen differently. But it does seem obvious that the captaincy has impacted his own form, and his own form impacted his captaincy - the worst possible outcome for him and the team.

However, given the nature of this season, I doubt that GWS management will change captains or change the approach for next year. If nothing improves on either front next year - team & personal form, I mean - then expect something to break thereafter.
 

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Will be an interesting off season for us ?

No win situation for Club / Cogs this week
Rivals can come calling. He has a rather long contract so unless they have about 10 1st rounders they want to give up I doubt they are any chance.

The point is it is a f’ed season already with covid.
He was back for 1 game after a long lay off and then the covid break hit.

Anyone thinks get won’t be back to his best next year and the club has no faith in him are insane. The club will make sure that he knows it as well.
 

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