Analysis Giants Coaching. Clarkson says 'no'. Adem Yze firming as favourite.

Who is your preference to be next coach of GWS Giants?

  • Alistair Clarkson

    Votes: 21 31.8%
  • James Hird

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • Don Pyke

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • Nathan Buckley

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Ross Lyon

    Votes: 3 4.5%
  • Mark McVeigh

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Robert Harvey

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scott Burns

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blake Caracella

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Adam Yze

    Votes: 13 19.7%
  • Adam Kingsley

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Daniel Giansiracusa

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Luke Power

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Jaymie Graham

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Ash Hansen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Andrew McQualter

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chris Scott

    Votes: 3 4.5%

  • Total voters
    66

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A negative of bringing in Clarko is how much of our soft cap he's expected to take up and it would be difficult to keep or land some of the best football support staff like how Peter Burge has just left Richmond with how much Dimma would be making.

Was Luke Boyd at the hawks for the dynesty? Is he getting ready to team up with Clarko at the giants
 

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... unless every other coach drops out.

In which case, may as well close the doors.
Yep, it kinda feels that way. All the gas has been let out of the tyres. Not really excited by game day at the moment.
Watching the 3rd quarter from the Bradman Stand last weekend was a chilling experience. Yep, it was cold.
Can't put my finger on what's lacking, why they are so uncompetitive.

Had thought it was Jeremy Cameron's absence that has scuppered the team, but maybe it was Shane Mumford's.
 

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Easy enough if it's Clarkson. If it's an assistant at one of the finals-bound clubs (e.g. Pyke @ Sydney or Yze @ Melbourne), it won't be until their team is eliminated or wins the GF.
The biggest impediment on Clarkson is his willingness to leave Melbourne and knowing the state of our list.

I think we have some perilous times ahead of us. We have lost some key pillars, others have gotten too old or are not good enough, drafted/traded quite poorly and have more holes in our list than Swiss cheese.

If I’m honest and a coach looking for a job GWS is not attractive. It needs COLA and soft cap relief as a starting point, a clean out, pain, and nail every draft and trade option for the next 3 years or will 100% become a basket case.
 

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The biggest impediment on Clarkson is his willingness to leave Melbourne and knowing the state of our list.

I think we have some perilous times ahead of us. We have lost some key pillars, others have gotten too old or are not good enough, drafted/traded quite poorly and have more holes in our list than Swiss cheese.

If I’m honest and a coach looking for a job GWS is not attractive. It needs COLA and soft cap relief as a starting point, a clean out, pain, and nail every draft and trade option for the next 3 years or will 100% become a basket case.
I see our list very differently to you.
 

Andre the Giant

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I see our list very differently to you.
I should clarify, we have some extremely good players on our list and some extremely talented kids we have yet to see. Callaghan and Stone showed a lot in the glimpses we’ve seen and Leek Alleer looked super on his tapes and probably just needs time.

We have hardly seen Brent Daniel’s due to injury but he’s a very good player also.

Some of the guys like Peatling, Wehr, Brander, Angwin, Stein are just players for me but I guess you have to have some guys like that. Not sure i would have been in a mad rush to re-sign them.

Out list is not balanced, we don’t have a gun key forward, we need another small forward, we need some more speed in the middle and our rucks have so far been a disappointment.

We have no cap space to bring anyone in and we have large parts of the cap being dealt to players who are nice to have but seriously over-paid.

I love some of our green shoots but when I look at the overall picture and the time it will take before we can seriously challenge I’m extremely worried. A big name coach like Clarkson would help!
 

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Clarkson, who spent most of his playing career at Arden Street including 93 games across the 1987-95 seasons, is reportedly seeking $1.6 million a year on his next contract. That would blow away the current top coaches’ salaries. With the 2023 soft cap set for $6,950,000, it means the Kangaroos would be spending 23 per cent of their entire budget on Clarkson, reducing their ability to staff up around him.

The other team with a coaching vacancy, GWS, is said to be going through a thorough process and could save $1 million a year if they opt for an untried assistant instead. “The Giants are fine with this. GWS is committed to a thorough process and speaking to a range of candidates.
“Clarkson’s asking price is up to $1.6 million a season ... the Giants might land Adam Yze or Adam Kingsley, for example, for a third of the price.

 

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If Clarko goes to North Melbourne on $1.6m then clearly his choice to return to coaching was not “to win the flag” as he outlined in an interview.
 
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If Clarko goes to North Melbourne on $1.6m then clearly his choice to return to coaching was not “to win the flag” as he outlined in an interview.
I do wonder if the price publicised is "$1.6m to coach North Melbourne, with $500k of that being the 'won't win a flag' premium, so a more normal $1m-ish for a premiership contending club".
 

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As stated earlier we need to spend more money on our health and fitness staff with 14 on our injury list.

Conor Stone seems to have been injured for 3 months now with a soft tissue injury, Brent Daniels has been injured for 3 years with soft tissue injuries, Phil Davis has what looks to be a career ending soft tissue injury, Whitfield looks to have been carrying an injury most of the year hip flexor?

The impact injuries you can't help as much with Kennedy, Perryman, Buckley, Kennedy, Idun, Angwin, deBoor, Callaghan (drafted with foot issues and has been missing for 80% of the year), Hill & Fahey.

Seriously when are the Giants going to realise this isn't just bad luck as we seem to have the worst injury list for the last 5 years now.
 

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As stated earlier we need to spend more money on our health and fitness staff with 14 on our injury list.

Conor Stone seems to have been injured for 3 months now with a soft tissue injury, Brent Daniels has been injured for 3 years with soft tissue injuries, Phil Davis has what looks to be a career ending soft tissue injury, Whitfield looks to have been carrying an injury most of the year hip flexor?

The impact injuries you can't help as much with Kennedy, Perryman, Buckley, Kennedy, Idun, Angwin, deBoor, Callaghan (drafted with foot issues and has been missing for 80% of the year), Hill & Fahey.

Seriously when are the Giants going to realise this isn't just bad luck as we seem to have the worst injury list for the last 5 years now.
Davis did his last hammy in the first action after the half time break. He hadn't warmed up properly. Who was overseeing that?
 

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Davis did his last hammy in the first action after the half time break. He hadn't warmed up properly. Who was overseeing that?
Who knows but it has been the same issue for the last 5 years. Horrendous management of our players have cost us I would say 10+ wins due to player unavailability.
 

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The biggest impediment on Clarkson is his willingness to leave Melbourne and knowing the state of our list.

I think we have some perilous times ahead of us. We have lost some key pillars, others have gotten too old or are not good enough, drafted/traded quite poorly and have more holes in our list than Swiss cheese.

If I’m honest and a coach looking for a job GWS is not attractive. It needs COLA and soft cap relief as a starting point, a clean out, pain, and nail every draft and trade option for the next 3 years or will 100% become a basket case.
Also is a very confused club, has no direction on what it wants to be.
 

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Not true. Ben McKay is our #1 key defender.

Fair to say however we are light on for KPP options at both ends.
Aiden Corr has always been a myth. Another one of these players that lives off his specs rather than his output. Another genius Silvagni move over Grundy whom we are now chasing as a beaten up rising 29yo.

Fetch me a pistol.
 

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No way I would be risking that sort of money on Clarkson he may be right in the Denis Pagan and Mick Malthouse Carlton zones now Sam Mitchell has definitely improved Hawthorn since Clarkson left at least their games are watchable this season.