Analysis Giants Coaching. Your thoughts.

Who is your preference to be next coach of GWS Giants?

  • Alistair Clarkson

    Votes: 14 35.9%
  • James Hird

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Don Pyke

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • Nathan Buckley

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Ross Lyon

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Mark McVeigh

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Robert Harvey

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scott Burns

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blake Caracella

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Adam Yze

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Adam Kingsley

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Daniel Giansiracusa

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Luke Power

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Jaymie Graham

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • Ash Hansen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Andrew McQualter

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chris Scott

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Total voters
    39

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Hendo_21

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Makes sense, 2 guys with senior coaching experience although pretty limited in Soloman's case but good to surround McVeigh with that experience
 

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ClockworkOrange

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Two assistants based outside Sydney, this is a shambles

I expect Hird will walk over broken glass to get half a season in our Coaches box.

You’d imagine he wants in desperately.

He’s not short of a $$$ so easy for him to check into the hotel at Olympic Park and immerse himself in Tom Wills.


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ClockworkOrange

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Phil Davis on 360 re Coach additions

“Extremely exciting. James’ [Hird] CV speaks for itself.”


Robbo then pushes Phil as to what he’s say to HCselection panel if he were asked for input.


“I’ve seen James and the character he’s got, he’s got all the skills required to be a HC again, and we [playing group] respond really, really, really well to him.

But then there are a lot of great young coaches out there too”.


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ClockworkOrange

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He get covid and miss a week anyway so its hardly a big deal for another coach to sit in for a week. Every club is facing a similar issue at the minute.

I agree it’s highly likely that MM’s newborn or illness is likely to require him to miss one or more games over the remainder of the season.

It’s happening to every other club so we’re probably overdue.

In that scenario, you’d imagine Hird will step up and that would be a heck of an exciting fixture.



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Giant Gutsache

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Phil Davis on 360 re Coach additions

“Extremely exciting. James’ [Hird] CV speaks for itself.”


Robbo then pushes Phil as to what he’s say to HCselection panel if he were asked for input.


“I’ve seen James and the character he’s got, he’s got all the skills required to be a HC again, and we [playing group] respond really, really, really well to him.

But then there are a lot of great young coaches out there too”.


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Wasn’t James Hird brought into the club to mentor the leaders? Lucky they’ve responded really, really well to him. To think things could have been even worse.
 

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I think it's a better coaching panel than what we had. 2 Ex Premiership players with coaching experience. They don't need to be there full time, 2-3 days a week and game day is enough.
If that's the case then it's the ideal way to slash assistant coaching costs for next year and be able to afford Clarkson's salary and not blow the soft cap!
 

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If that's the case then it's the ideal way to slash assistant coaching costs for next year and be able to afford Clarkson's salary and not blow the soft cap!
I think assistant's would take less to work with Clarko because of how many of his assistants go on to become senior coaches or senior assistants elsewhere. He's a kingmaker and there's a really good chance that you'll go on to get a better job elsewhere if you work with Clarko for a few years.
 

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Giant Pete

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It’s good that we could get supports in and around MM so quickly.

Re 2023 and beyond, Hird should never be employed as a head coach before Clarkson. I don’t get the hype. He wasn’t a successful coach and oversaw something horrendous.
 

ClockworkOrange

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Herald Sun Podcast today saying if the Giants playing group were given a vote Hird would be the next HC.


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I’m starting to think that the Hird, MM, DS trio may not be the interim solution, but rather the ‘soft launch’ of the proposed 2023 Coaching line-up.

If our senior star players (who have individually underperformed in season 2022 to date, ex JK) demonstrate a significant lift in performance then that may give the Board the confidence to formalise it.

I suspect that’s the Club’s default plan unless something unexpected (ie, Clarko makes a killer pitch to the club) comes along.


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ClockworkOrange

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Wasn’t James Hird brought into the club to mentor the leaders? Lucky they’ve responded really, really well to him. To think things could have been even worse.

In hindsight, it appears something (in addition to Jezza) has been broken or missing at the club from 2020 onwards.

You are correct that our senior players are massively underperforming, but I think Hird was brought in for 2022 to pre-position for LC’s departure - not to improve Toby or JK’s Captaincy for LC.

I never bought the official club management story that LC wanted and hired Hird.

Phil chooses his media words very carefully, and I suspect there is signal - not noise - in his choosing to to repeat the word ‘really’ three times in a row.

It also follows on from the recent TFG interview on Fox where he raves about Hird and complains about the lack of COLA for junior players and assistant coaches.



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North players really wanted Rhyce Shaw too.
To be fair, the integrity of our leadership group and the way they have lead has been questionable.
I think players may be more open and honest with assistant coaches especially their position coach and not often is the assistant coach the one to be handing out big sprays to the group so it's a probably a different type of relationship which might explain that.
 

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So one of the 3 structural problems embedded in this years poor on-field performance has been addressed.
The Head coach has gone.
Two remain.
The team isn't fit enough. Will the Strength & Conditioning head, (have a hazy recollection he was poached from Rugby League) also be axed?
& then there is Recruitment/ draft.
Adrian Caruso loves his big bodied mid-fielders; to the extent that Cognilio and Taranto have to be played out of position on flanks and have consequently lost impact on games. & Hopper will return second half of season, adding to the logjam.
Putting a long-term contracted millionaire and captain onto a half forward flank goes to the poor fit and balance of the team.
It just feels wrong. Cogs can't impact from there.
 

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I’m starting to think that the Hird, MM, DS trio may not be the interim solution, but rather the ‘soft launch’ of the proposed 2023 Coaching line-up.

If our senior star players (who have individually underperformed in season 2022 to date, ex JK) demonstrate a significant lift in performance then that may give the Board the confidence to formalise it.

I suspect that’s the Club’s default plan unless something unexpected (ie, Clarko makes a killer pitch to the club) comes along.


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I hope that isn't the plan
 

ClockworkOrange

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Definitely. Some say he's the wisest man to ever live. Just don't ask him about his policy to halve childcare.

A cutting observation.

Fairly sure it will require this level of wisdom to turn the season around.




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