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This was my point ? .....if the AFL would be all over the Franklin deal if renegotiated ...why wouldn't that be the case with Gibbs ......or is that because the Franklin deal was his Unrestricted Free Agency offer?

Think i answered my own question o_O

Still struggling with this situation:
Carlton sign Gibbs ...5 years @ $650K = $3.25M

Now Carlton forward pay .. example $2M over the first 2 years, leaving a balance of $1.25M over 3 years = $416K per year

Adelaide secures Gibbs with 3 years on his contract .....are you saying Gibbs still gets 3 years @ $650K or 3 years @416K??? .....this is what i'm struggling with in the process?
Neither. Adelaide negotiates a deal with Gibbs. It may be 400k but it might be 600k. Essentially, they renegotiate his contract. Carlton get screwed because the front-ended the deal. It needs to be remembered that they did this for their own advantage. They still get to choose to trade or not.
 

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This was my point ? .....if the AFL would be all over the Franklin deal if renegotiated ...why wouldn't that be the case with Gibbs ......or is that because the Franklin deal was his Unrestricted Free Agency offer?

Think i answered my own question o_O

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Carlton sign Gibbs ...5 years @ $650K = $3.25M

Now Carlton forward pay .. example $2M over the first 2 years, leaving a balance of $1.25M over 3 years = $416K per year

Adelaide secures Gibbs with 3 years on his contract .....are you saying Gibbs still gets 3 years @ $650K or 3 years @416K??? .....this is what i'm struggling with in the process?
We would guarantee the $416k for 3 years, but would probably amend his contract to 4 years & increase his pa rate.
 
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Port can't afford any players unless they move hartlett to us or lobbe elsewhere.
Correct, reiterated today on radio that Port have a real TPP issue .......Hartlett has to go, won't leave Sth Australia .....so options are?

They'll prefer draft picks, so your suggestion of Brisbane may come into play .......aren't we gald we gave Brisbane a priority pick :rolleyes:

Maybe bundle Otten and another player in exchange for Rockliff?
 

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Heard that also heard his reply was well see and is stepping up his training.
A few are putting in some hard yards, Looks Like Pyke gave the hard word to a few of them.
He tries hard - I don't think his commitment is the issue - he's just not that good.

Training harder isn't going to change that.
 
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We would guarantee the $416k for 3 years, but would probably amend his contract to 4 years & increase his pa rate.
Think what Go_Blues! is suggesting is that Gibbs will get the benefit of the forward contract payment PLUS 3 years @ $650K ??? ......no wonder he wants to come home
 
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Why do Port fans keep telling me that they don't have salary cap pressures because they didn't have to pay Ryder/Monfries contracts this year and that extra money rolls over to next year, thereby having 'extra cash' or room to move.
Last I heard this asada money was quarantined & couldn't be utilised.

Port have major cap issues.
 
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Neither. Adelaide negotiates a deal with Gibbs. It may be 400k but it might be 600k. Essentially, they renegotiate his contract. Carlton get screwed because the front-ended the deal. It needs to be remembered that they did this for their own advantage. They still get to choose to trade or not.
Understand what you're saying ......but you can't ask for any of the forward payment back?
 

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Understand what you're saying ......but you can't ask for any of the forward payment back?
That would mean it is cheaper for Carlton to keep him - as they don't have as much to pay in the remainder of the contract. It's better for Gibbs as he earns more. Is that right? Surely not.
 

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Think what Go_Blues! is suggesting is that Gibbs will get the benefit of the forward contract payment PLUS 3 years @ $650K ??? ......no wonder he wants to come home
If Gibbs has 3 years left at $416k & we add a 4th year at say $650k, we can pay $475k pa or even front load it if we can afford to.
 
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Totally agree. Will get done and is much closer than people think. As always, Adelaide are entirely professional and the clubs are working well together. I understand that we need a few things to happen with GWS before we can commit. Adelaide are comfortable and know what Carlton needs.
Is it GWS & Carlton sorting some things out ......or Adelaide having to get their part of the deal complete from 3rd parties?

Obviously Carlton want to use #13 in the Marchbank deal + ??
 

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Why do Port fans keep telling me that they don't have salary cap pressures because they didn't have to pay Ryder/Monfries contracts this year and that extra money rolls over to next year, thereby having 'extra cash' or room to move.
They tell lies that makes Baby Jesus cry
 

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Was speaking to someone involved ......they said 50 % of AFL Player contracts are unconditional (highly paid players) ....whilst the other 50% are on incentive contracts, which include match payments

Obviously Mackay is on the unconditional contract :D
Match payments are still mandatory as far as I'm aware
 
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If Gibbs has 3 years left at $416k & we add a 4th year at say $650k, we can pay $475k pa or even front load it if we can afford to.
Great for us .....not sure Gibbs Manager will agree to that reduction ? ......Gibbs manager will want his cake (forward payment) + eat it too (the original $650K per year)
 
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Great for us .....not sure Gibbs Manager will agree to that reduction ? ......Gibbs manager will want his cake (forward payment) + eat it too (the original $650K per year)
It's brings forward his current salary - he or his manager would be stupid to.complain. Anyway, the salary won't be the issue.
 
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