Gibbs requests trade to Adelaide

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Gibbs manager Im sure will revise that contract.

If Gibbs comes to us for "only" $400-500k that would be a win for us too. I suggest he has leverage to ask for more.
Might add a year but i doubt the dollars will change greatly. Its why Gibbs is such a win other than the fact he is an A grade mid.
 

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Last night on Fox it was Pelchen who stated he felt Gibbs was worth this years first and next years second. Tonight it was Niall who basically said the same thing. Our trade will revolve around picks and not players.

We just have to wait and see.
 

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I disagree, more being out of the game got to him at the start. By the time he started really getting in the groove, he injured himself on a goal post.

Right move, wrong player in the end.

The worst thing about this whole incident is it scared our administration of making these moves in the years after, blowing another set of chances.
I don't think they were scared. The situation didn't really allow it.

By the end of 2004, the 90's premiership list looked shot and then Neil Craig took over and his philosophy was not to trade but to build from within.

Carey was the right move. The injury to carey, knee injury to Mark Stevens and then Trent Hentschel took any premiership chances away.
 

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Are you suggesting that overpaying is the way to success?
Your take on this article?....What they say Lyons was on this year and a hint at what his management are looking at to re-sign?

Poles apart from what some on here were saying he was on this year though I don't recall it being linked to any articles etc to back it up?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ade...k=77176e60949aadd44249f6ae7ef4fc80-1476783627

At this stage it appears more likely Lyons will head to an interstate club rather than back home to Victoria via a trade, although remaining at the Crows is not out of the question.

It’s believed he was paid approximately $350,000 this year. However, averaging 22 disposals in 20 games for a team that made a semi-final has only strengthened his market value, something that is yet to be reflected in Adelaide’s offer.

One list manager at a rival club told foxfooty.com.au that the former Sandringham Dragon would command somewhere between $450,000 — 470,000 next season at a rival club.
 

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Might add a year but i doubt the dollars will change greatly. Its why Gibbs is such a win other than the fact he is an A grade mid.
I would be happy to give him 4 years on the same pay. It will then allow us to keep our gun players too without having Hartlett issues in two years time.
 
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List analysis: What Crows should pay for Gibbs

BRYCE Gibbs could help turn the Crows into a flag contender. But what should they offer Carlton? List expert Gary Buckenara puts Adelaide under the microscope.

The former No. 1 pick wants to head home to Adelaide for personal reasons and that suits the Crows just fine because he’s exactly the type of player they need. He’s a classy outside midfielder who kicks goals and has a penetrating kick. He would be very damaging in the Adelaide team, delivering the ball inside 50 to that dangerous forward line.

Gibbs is worth a first-round pick, with Adelaide’s currently No. 13. The Crows need to work out whether Gibbs is better for them now or whether they’re happy to give that up despite the talent on offer in the first round of this year’s draft.

For me he’s probably not worth a first-round pick and a player. If a player was involved, then I would only be happy to give up a second-rounder plus the player.
Other players I’d like to mention are Tom Doedee, who I like as a potential key position player, and Harry Dear, who is Paul Dear’s son who I looked at while I was at Hawthorn as a father-son but we passed because he’s been quite injury-prone. We were willing to take him as a rookie but Adelaide grabbed him in the national draft. I hope he gets a run at it because he’s a potential key forward who’s very athletic and has a good leap.
 

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So if Gibbs is totally Mackay useless and we win the flag that year, trading our first rounders for two years straight is worth it?

Im not saying Gibbs will be, Im assuming worst case scenario. But let the flag settle before judging if the decision to get him over has been worth it.

With that analogy if we trade two first rounders for say any player X and we win the flag? Its worth it? Absolutely not, unless of course player X was an absolute key to our success.
We haven't won in 18 years. I don't care what series of events lead up to us winning another one, they will be worth it.
 

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I don't think they were scared. The situation didn't really allow it.

By the end of 2004, the 90's premiership list looked shot and then Neil Craig took over and his philosophy was not to trade but to build from within.

Carey was the right move. The injury to carey, knee injury to Mark Stevens and then Trent Hentschel took any premiership chances away.
When we had to rely on McGregor to save us, in hindsight our flag chances were shot.

Our best bet in hindsight was Pavlich.
 

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I reckon there is more to why he wants to come back. He doesn't sign for 5 and change his mind two years later. Wife struggling with ppd? Kid got issues? All reasons aflpa may want to step in. If someone has suggested that. .. I'm interested in why.
I wouldn't have thought it would have anything to do with the AFLPA. AFL mediation maybe, but even that's a toothless tiger. He's contracted, he can sit out, his rights are already enshrined, no one can force the Blues to accept a deal
 
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It’s believed he was paid approximately $350,000 this year. However, averaging 22 disposals in 20 games for a team that made a semi-final has only strengthened his market value, something that is yet to be reflected in Adelaide’s offer. One list manager at a rival club told foxfooty.com.au that the former Sandringham Dragon would command somewhere between $450,000 — 470,000 next season at a rival club.
$350,000 is absolutely the most I'd offer Lyons. A very reasonable offer. If he wants and can get more elsewhere, then bye bye.
 

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When we had to rely on McGregor to save us, in hindsight our flag chances were shot.

I best bet in hindsight was Pavlich.
Not true. Kenny as a 16 and 17 year old was the much smarter and wiser choice. We took Kenny McGregor as a 17 year old.

Pav only exploded as a player his 17th year
 
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Tredders on 9 saying our chances of getting Gibbs are drifting cause Carlton want 2 first rounders for him. No mention of any picks coming back to us.
 

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Not true. Jenny as a 16 and 17 year old was the much smarter and wiser choice. We took Kenny McGregor as a 17 year old.

Pav only exploded as a player his 17th year
Not then. Pavlich ahead of Carey.

I understand why we didnt go for Pav as a kid, mind you Port did the same as well.
 

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Positive - looks like we are getting Gibbs

Positive - we are not losing a quality player , we are essentially keeping our team together ( I even hope we keep Lyons ) and are adding a quality player

Positive - Hamish and recruiters are involved and have given their thoughts on next years draft and what they can do ( with a pick downgrade or whatever)

Positive - there are ways to move up draft order
Negative - Adelaide BigFooty Board goes FULL LINDY

:p
 

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Danger was an out of contract RFA while Gibbs has 3 years on his contract so are clearly not comparable and Tippett was clearly not our trading departments fault. I have no idea weather we could have got Hampton cheaper than we did and I doubt you do either but from what I saw late in the year I think he will be a bargain anyway.
Still not seeing where we have been reamed at the trade table, how do you think we have stayed such a competitive side without high picks otherwise.
Danger never put forward a free agent offer, it was a trade from start to finish.
If you think a player like Gibbs, who is not elite, is worth more than, or the same even, than a top 3 player in the game because he is in contract you are nuts.
To me it looks like we have nothing else in the works for trade week (which is a concern) that the club is so desperate to do something that they are going to sell the farm to get it over the line.
To pay well overs for Bryce only serves to hurt us in the long term.
And if you think adding Bryce to our list os going to be the difference between winning or not winning a flag your nuts.
 

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More than one stalemate out there..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k=39ee9d6f901fb177267ef4e517f31bbb-1476787947

Star midfielder Jaeger O’Meara could be forced to nominate for the AFL national draft
Jay Clark, Herald Sun
23 minutes ago
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HAWTHORN could walk away from negotiations with Gold Coast over midfielder Jaeger O’Meara in a move that could force the Suns’ star into the national draft.

Talks between the two clubs have slowed to a halt with the Suns unwilling to accept the Hawks’ two top picks, which are No. 10 and No. 48, for O’Meara.

Hawthorn believe a first-round and third-round pick is a fair deal for a player who has not played a single senior game over the past two seasons due to serious knee injuries.



The Hawks swapped their first pick from next year’s draft in a bid to gain No. 10 in this year’s draft from St Kilda, but it has failed to appease the Suns.

Instead, Gold Coast wants a senior player from Hawthorn, but the players they have targeted from Waverley have refused to join the Suns.

Hawthorn cannot trade a senior player to the Suns without the player’s consent.

The dramatic stalemate threatens to force O’Meara, 22, into the national draft if the two clubs are unable to agree to a trade deal for the Rising Star winner before Thursday’s 2pm trade deadline.


If O’Meara enters the national draft, the Suns would potentially be left red-faced if it lost the glittering ball-winner for nothing.

The AFL has made clear its two struggling Queensland clubs can help rebound from continued disappointing performances by using the correct trade and draft mechanisms to bolster their squads.

However, sources said the Suns may want to make a statement to deter other players who may consider walking out on the franchise club next year.

Entering the draft could be a devastating blow for O’Meara who would have to hope he is not taken by another club before Hawthorn’s No. 10 selection in the national draft.

Former St Kilda midfielder Luke Ball found his way to Collingwood’s No. 30 selection in 2009 after confronting the same dilemma.

O’Meara could also choose to enter the preseason draft, but would certainly be taken by Essendon with the No. 1 pick.

Essendon has a keen interest in O’Meara, but the player’s manager, Colin Young, is adamant the Suns’ star will get to the club of his choice, which is Hawthorn.

O’Meara could put a big price on his head to help deter unwanted clubs from taking him in the national draft and could also sign for only one season, or spend one year out of the game.
Young had crucial talks with Gold Coast representatives on Tuesday in a bid to help clinch the deal but the Suns are standing firm on their demands.

Gold Coast president Tony Cochrane previously said O’Meara owes the Suns for all the help they have provided him during his time on the sidelines.

“We are very disappointed because he has been with us for four years but has only played football for the club for two of those years,” Cochrane said.

“We have put a lot of time, effort, money, resources, made sure he had the best medical advice and took him to London to make sure he had the best surgeon on that first knee operation.



“So we think we have invested a lot in the person, we had great faith in the individual and we built our whole junior program on the Gold Coast around Jaeger’s Juniors.

“We unfortunately — and perhaps foolishly — believed that it would be repaid by him re-signing with us for at least another two years and we made a very substantial offer on that basis which he has chosen to reject.

“It might be old fashioned but loyalty is a two-way street. It is not a dead-end road.”
 

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Tredders on 9 saying our chances of getting Gibbs are drifting cause Carlton want 2 first rounders for him. No mention of any picks coming back to us.
this shows people in the media have no real idea because some were edging closer to a deal others say were drifting further apart from a deal.
 
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