Gibbs requests trade to Adelaide

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Kennedy worth a first rounder. He was top 4 pick two years prior. Carlton gave up essentially two top 5 picks and pick 30 for Judd. We are reportedly giving up 1 st rounder and slipping down half a dozen spots at most in 2017.

Comprehension obviously not a strong point!
We also held PSD pick 1 that year and Judd was uncontracted and had nominated us.

West coast had just ran him into the ground too. His groins were all but shot that year.

Pick 3, 20 and Kennedy (pick 4 and multiple Coleman medallist for them) wasn't a bad deal. They're certainly not complaining about it now.

Masten is still a spud and Notte (the bloke they picked at 20) is long gone.

We probably wouldn't have made it into the finals as far as we did if we didn't do the deal. He also brought us hope after a dark time indeed. I still see the trade as a win/win.

(For completeness we got a pick back in the 40s off them in addition to Juddy, which we used on Armfield. He's had his moments and is a useful player on his day.)
 

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We also held PSD pick 1 that year and Judd was uncontracted and had nominated us.

West coast had just ran him into the ground too. His groins were all but shot that year.

Pick 3, 20 and Kennedy (pick 4 and multiple Coleman medallist for them) wasn't a bad deal. They're certainly not complaining about it now.

Masten is still a spud and Notte (the bloke they picked at 20) is long gone.

We probably wouldn't have made it into the finals as far as we did if we didn't do the deal. He also brought us hope after a dark time indeed. I still see the trade as a win/win.

(For completeness we got a pick back in the 40s off them in addition to Juddy, which we used on Armfield. He's had his moments and is a useful player on his day.)
Think Richmond had 1 - hence being box seat.
 

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So there is a poster on the Carlton board who reckons he has good goss, anyway he's saying it's 1st this year and next year or McGovern.

He also went on to say that they are going to get Geelongs first for 2017 for Tuohy.

When questioned that Geelong can't as they traded 2 firsts last year he said that's not right, they only traded a first for Henderson and pick 9 for Danger. Now he can't be too bright as pick 9 was a first round picko_O

That fills me with confidence that the first part is crap.
He's generally very reliable, not sure about that Tuohy trade though. Geelong could only do it if they traded back in to the first round in either 17 or 18 which isn't impossible but would seem like a pretty big risk. It also seems overs for Tuohy but I guess they gave us a future first for Henderson last year.
 

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This board...

"We're too conservative at the trade table, we're never gonna win a flag if we don't change something"

Gets aggressive and makes change. "WTF are you doing? the board screams (even though nothing has been done!) "You're overpaying, calm the **** down"

Rinse and repeat
 

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Adelaide: Lyons + 13 > Gold Coast for pick 8
Adelaide: pick 8 > Carlton for Gibbs
Carlton swap 8 for GWS 15, Marchbank and Pickett

Adelaide lose 13 and Lyons gain Gibbs
Carlton lose Gibbs gain Marchbank, Pickett and 15
Gold Coast lose 8, gain 13 and Lyons
GWS lose 15, Marchbank and Pickett and gain 8

Possible? Probable?
 
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Is it possible for a club to end up with a pick they previously traded?

eg:

Adelaide: Lyons + 13 > Gold Coast for pick 8
Adelaide: pick 8 > Carlton for Gibbs
Carlton swap 5 for Gold Coast 8 plus Marchbank and Pickett

Adelaide lose 13 and Lyons gain Gibbs
Carlton lose Gibbs and 5 gain Marchbank, Pickett and 8 (3 pick downgrade)
Gold Coast lose 8, Marchbank and Pickett and gain 5 and 13 and Lyons

Possible? Probable?
GWS have Marchbank/Pickett mate, not GC
 

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Still Carlton.
Blues midfield will get slaughtered once we take Gibbs out of it. Absolutely put to the sword.

They should've taken Lyons while they had the chance haha
We managed this year with only having Gibbs and not having Murphy... I think we can manage dealing with it the other way around as well :)
 

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Adelaide: Lyons + 13 > Gold Coast for pick 8
Adelaide: pick 8 > Carlton for Gibbs
Carlton swap 8 for GWS 15, Marchbank and Pickett

Adelaide lose 13 and Lyons gain Gibbs
Carlton lose Gibbs gain Marchbank, Pickett and 15
Gold Coast lose 8, gain 13 and Lyons
GWS lose 15, Marchbank and Pickett and gain 8

Possible? Probable?
I reckon Carlton win that trade handsomely.
 

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I reckon Carlton win that trade handsomely.
Yeah might need pick swaps further down, but the general structure seems to be win/win. We get Gibbs for a reasonable amount, you guys get two kids and a first rounder, GWS shift up to another top 10 pick and GC get Lyons for a 5 spot downgrade.
 

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AFL site reporting Lyons might only get the Crows a third round pick from GC (pick 44)... I think I'd rather keep Lyons, but at the end of the day, it'll be up to him whether he wants to go or not.
We better bloody not be trading him out for that.

If we're not using him in the Gibbs deal (with all this talk of giving our 2017 first or second rounder) and we're not using him to get Rockliff Id rather we kept Lyons.

We want to premiership NOW - we should be hanging onto first 22 players unless we're getting a better player in (Gibbs replaces Thompson).
 

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Yes but a Gibbs trade makes you better and us worse
And a couple of injuries the wrong way round undoes all of that.

Ask Port about the their trade of future picks that will be great because they are going to be getting better results.

All we know is that if this years results were repeated there would be 12-15 spots difference

That's a lot.
 

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I'd be pretty livid if we traded our future first rounder as a component of the Gibbs deal.

The potential to be burnt extremely badly after an unexpectedly poor season and forfeiting a top 5 pick, is simply too great.

The Tom Mitchell deal is probably the best indicator of value, and if relative age roughly cancels out contract status, then Gibbs should cost us 13 and no more than chaff.
 

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Yeah, I'm a bit the same on future first round picks. A future second is one thing, but with a future first we're only ever a disastrous injury run or some other factors away from having coughed up the best draft pick we've ever been able to use.
 
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