So what you are saying is that collingwoods midfield is better than Carltons??? Let me see...Buckley (dodgy string, finished), Burns (slow, nearly finished), Licuria (see Burns), Pendlebury (time will tell), Thomas (more of a flanker), Lonie

(no need to say anything), Holland (goes ok, tough), O'Bree (slow, bad skills), Shaw

, Lockyer (more of a back pocket type), Johnson (good player)...