Gifts Of Imperfection: Fake Tanking?

[Ghost Pig]

Very happy with the number of debutants already named this season.

Am I alone however, in thinking that getting as many games, into as many promising young'ns this year as it takes to ensure a bottom 4 finish (while crossing fingers for honorable losses and taking care of developing bodies) is our best possible scenario in terms of bigger picture/rebuild etc?

There's a lot to like about our drafting/recruiting in the last few drafts but I have a sinking feeling that if the recruiters don't get another swing at the cream of the crop in this next draft, our next flag tilt will be more injury/opposition reliant then we'd like it to be ala 2013.

Is this PTSD or do we still need more class through the gateways to truly be in control of our own success?

 

[wild side]

A gun young forward would be good

 

[Okinakashi]

A gun young forward would be good

Hugh Dixon?

 

[wayToGo_]

Tanking is horrible for creating a winning/competitive culture. We'd gain a gun and probably lose others in the process. Would rather we improved on last year to make the existing list dog hungry for 2019 and take a mid 1st round player plus Carter - so two 1st round picks effectively.

 

[Patty_Moz]

Isn’t it true that at this stage no matter where we finish we have 1 pick in the top 70 or so?

That isn’t the best idea if we wanna start tanking.

 

[mike91]

Is this a serious thread or a piss take? Debuting kids in a rebuild is considered tanking? Lol ok.

 

[Alfonz]

The best pathway is to start winning games regularly this season ... 10-13 wins should be the aim. And that can still be done with kids/youth.

Getting stuck in the bottom 4-5 for 3 years in a row is a huge hole to climb out of and likely indicates massive long-term pain is to come. It builds a loser club with a loser mentality. Evidence is hard to argue with ... Carlton, Saints, Gold Coast, Brisbane, Melbourne. We'll turn out like them if we don't start performing ASAP.

 

[Ghost Pig]

I know it's uncouth to talk openly about this with lurking opposition supporters never missing an opportunity to sink their shiny wingtips into our kidneys.

But ive got to admit i was mortified at the bullish comments made far and wide after we toweled up the scum in jlt3 and was positively effervescent after we got worked over by port.

I guess I'm asking if I'm a bad supporter...Or if I'm just starved of new GOT episodes?

 

[mike91]

I know it's uncouth to talk openly about this with lurking opposition supporters never missing an opportunity to sink their shiny wingtips into our kidneys.

But ive got to admit i was mortified at the bullish comments made far and wide after we toweled up the scum in jlt3 and was positively effervescent after we got worked over by port.

I guess I'm asking if I'm a bad supporter...Or if I'm just starved of new GOT episodes?

JLT really doesn't mean much. West Coast were decent against the Swans, but they didn't care much about the practice match against us. Plus our JLT form wasn't as good as people think, we still bombed it long, only difference is Tabs marked everything, so it didn't look as bad.

 

[G Mus]

I don't think we're taking per say but I don't think we're getting a pick worse than 6-8, probably better

 

[Lach72]

We may not win, but you're working on the assumption that 12 Crowden possessions are worse than 20 Danyle Pearce Possessions

 

[theGav56]

No way. Just a team in development mode.

 

[eastfreo75]

For me, total tanking has long term cultural issues. But selecting kids over veterans who don’t offer much makes total sense to me.

 

[Righteo]

When it’s widely acknowledged that you’re in a full rebuild you have full license to blood as many kids as possible without facing any tanking accusations and I’m bloody stoked that’s what we’re doing.

 

[Moo]

From memory we've effectively traded out of rounds 2 & 3 (for Wilson & Matera) however the only thing that really matters to me is that we've hung on to that 1st rounder.

I mean who knows but at this stage I can't see us finishing bottom 2.....most likely we will be in the pick 3-6 conversation.

Jack Lukosius will be gone - however you're going to get a pretty good look at another quality mid (and there looks like there are 2-3 again that will fit the bill) ...there are twin King Towers (King brothers 201cm - one forward and one defender) and if all else fails and we end up with Ian Hill ...I for one could cope with that.

We'll also get to secure Jason Carter .....just not worth tanking, play the kids and let the cards fall where they may.

 

[Outshined]

Playing the kids isn't tanking.

Playing the kids out of position is.

 

[eastfreo75]

From memory we've effectively traded out of rounds 2 & 3 (for Wilson & Matera) however the only thing that really matters to me is that we've hung on to that 1st rounder.

I mean who knows but at this stage I can't see us finishing bottom 2.....most likely we will be in the pick 3-6 conversation.

Jack Lukosius will be gone - however you're going to get a pretty good look at another quality mid (and there looks like there are 2-3 again that will fit the bill) ...there are twin King Towers (King brothers 201cm - one forward and one defender) and if all else fails and we end up with Ian Hill ...I for one could cope with that.

We'll also get to secure Jason Carter .....just not worth tanking, play the kids and let the cards fall where they may.

big thing is play the kids.

 

[Moo]

big thing is play the kids.

Without a shadow of a doubt

 

[Freo Shark]

big thing is play the kids.

Yea and Pearce d and Sutty have both played 100 for us too so no more value now.

 

[Joao]

Isn’t it true that at this stage no matter where we finish we have 1 pick in the top 70 or so?

That isn’t the best idea if we wanna start tanking.

I came to say this. Laying aside the terrible culture you would get from doing it on purpose.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Honestly I think we have long since reached the stage where playing Danyle Pearce is more tanking than playing inexperienced kids.

 

[JunglistPosse]

I would say playing Pearce, Sutty and co is tanking

 

[Purple dynamite]

Swap next years picks for picks this year.
Next year Hogan is a free agent!

 

[FUS_RO_DAH]

Because no Freo thread about tanking is complete without this classic masterpiece...

 

[blue shark]

The only thing lacking is Forward options, the list in my mind is developing nicely, it's up to the coaching panel to lift. Carter is just
decorations, we have the ingredients.
Freo in 2013 won games with Bradley, Balla, Walters, Mayne, with Pav missing half of the year.
But we were dog hungry and hunted in packs, something that is missing with team selection now, we have upgraded the talent though.
No amount of tanking will fix holes in the game plan, look at GWS, GC, etc, they were supposedly creating dynasty's.
Rather pickup off field talent that knows attacking patterns, and leave the defensive side to Lyon.