Gladys Liu, Liberal MP for Chisholm

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Homophobic piece of s**t, which you may already know, and the below isn't good:

Clive Hamilton
Professor of Public Ethics, Centre for Public and Contextual Theology, Charles Sturt University
September 11, 2019 12.16pm AEST


Around 2005, the Chinese government began pushing its policy of huaren canzheng, or “ethnic Chinese participation in politics overseas”. It was a new tactic in the Chinese Communist Party’s “united front” strategy to gain political influence abroad by helping trusted members of the Chinese diaspora gain political influence.

Since then, ethnic Chinese people supported by Beijing have begun joining political parties and running for office in Canada, New Zealand, Britain and Australia. The strategy is most advanced in Canada, but it’s been building in Australia, too.

The baleful consequence of this new situation is that Chinese communities, already seriously under-represented in parliaments, now find themselves represented by people whose loyalties are in doubt. The CCP has poisoned the well.

Liu’s links with various organisations

It’s with these developments in mind that questions have been raised about the alleged links of the newly elected Liberal member for Chisholm, Gladys Liu, to organisations associated with the Chinese Communist Party.

Investigations by the ABC and Nine newspapers have revealed that Liu has been closely connected with a number of organisations in Australia and China that are directed by or closely linked to the CCP’s powerful United Front Work Department.

One of the department’s tasks is to co-opt and guide ethnic Chinese people living abroad so they act in the interests of the Communist Party. Its size and importance have increased sharply under President Xi Jinping, who has described United Front as one of the party’s “magic weapons”.

One prominent United Front organisation is the Guangdong provincial branch of the China Overseas Exchange Association, an overseas propaganda and influence outfit headed by high-ranking party officials. Documents show that Liu has been a council member of this organisation.

She has also confirmed she has been an honorary president of the United Chinese Commerce Association of Australia.

There is strong evidence that this body is part of the CCP’s United Front network for exerting political influence in Australia. For example, the current president, Huang Zhuang, has close links with party organisations in China. And its permanent honorary president, Lo Man-tuen, is a member of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, a top-level patriotic advisory body.

In September 2018, Liu was also appointed honorary president of the Australia Jiangmen General Commercial Association, an investment promotion body whose senior officers, including its president Wilson Cui, hold positions in CCP United Front organisations.

The Jiangmen association was one of the organisations that backed a protest on the streets of Melbourne in 2016 against a ruling of the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, rejecting China’s claims to much of the South China Sea.

Liu said she “cannot recall” being a member of the China Overseas Exchange Association. And she has previously said she is unaware of any Communist Party links with the other organisations that she participates in and that she has only joined them to promote trade and community activities.

Questionable donors

Liu has been an energetic supporter of the Liberal cause. She has run for office in Victoria a number of times and was once employed as an adviser to Liberal leader Ted Baillieu.

But she is perhaps most admired in the Liberal Party for her fundraising ability. Her claim to be “one of the most effective fundraisers in the Victorian division” of the party is almost certainly true.

However, her fundraising came under a cloud last month when it was reported by the Herald Sun that the Liberal Party had been forced to return A$300,000 to dodgy donors that she had brought to an event in 2015. (Liu has denied that any funds were returned to donors).

Then-Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull refused to have dinner with the donors because he had been warned off by our intelligence services due to “security concerns”. Foreign Minister Julie Bishop and opposition leader Matthew Guy did likewise.

Why Liu must answer to parliament

Even though Liu has denied having links with the Chinese Communist Party, there are now serious questions swirling around her and legitimate doubts about whether she owes “allegiance, obedience, or adherence to a foreign power”.

Those words are taken from section 44 of the Constitution. While many federal politicians have been disqualified from parliament because they have turned out to be citizens of another country, the question of allegiance to a foreign power is a far weightier reason for disqualification.

Parliament must now grapple with Liu’s case. If there is enough evidence to indicate she may owe allegiance to a foreign power, then parliament ought to refer her to the High Court, where the claims can be tested.

Otherwise, a dark cloud will hang over her as long as she sits in the House of Representatives. And a dark cloud will overshadow the Liberal Party, because more and more people will want to know why it stuck with Liu when it knew that intelligence agencies had concerns strong enough to deter the prime minister from meeting with her donors.

 

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Whether this turns out to be a real issue or otherwise, the threat is real. It also highlights that s44 needs to change to reflect modern times and focus on the real risks.
 

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Let's not forget that on election day, posters were set up around booths in Chisholm that mimicked the colours of the AEC and urged voters - in Chinese - that a vote was only valid if it put Liu first on the ballot paper. Of course, the gutless wonder that is the AEC, did nothing about it.

 

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Whether this turns out to be a real issue or otherwise, the threat is real. It also highlights that s44 needs to change to reflect modern times and focus on the real risks.
Probably should build more prisons first :eek:
 

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She's gone, just a matter of how long Morrison wants to play it.

I suspect they want to set up a "UNFAIR TREATMENT OF CHINESE LADY" narrative to help them win the by-election.
that's the avenue Porter is going down...ffs, she went on Bolt's show and gave an un-sanctioned interview and has changed her tune numerous times since and the PM/govt are trying to protect her.

you cannot makeup the incompetence of politicians in this country...its a ******* joke.
 

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ALP putting a motion to the House to suspend standing orders in order to allow Ms Liu to make a statement to the House responding to the media reports, the discrepancies in her public statements in response to those reports and answering questions raised concerning her fitness to be a Member of Parliament.

Christian Porter is arguing vociferously against the motion in response. The ALP doesn't have the numbers to get the motion up, especially after the Speaker tossed out Tim Watts.
 

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that's the avenue Porter is going down...ffs, she went on Bolt's show and gave an un-sanctioned interview and has changed her tune numerous times since and the PM/govt are trying to protect her.

you cannot makeup the incompetence of politicians in this country...its a ******* joke.
It's a numbers game. Losing Liu means that the Government loses its absolute majority on the floor of the House, which means they're back having to negotiate legislation through the minor parties. No way known Morrison wants a repeat of the last Parliament.

Liu won Chisholm by about 1,100 votes so if she resigned from Parliament or was tossed out by the High Court under section 44 of the Constitution, the by-election is no lay down misere for the Coalition.
 

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Let's not forget that on election day, posters were set up around booths in Chisholm that mimicked the colours of the AEC and urged voters - in Chinese - that a vote was only valid if it put Liu first on the ballot paper. Of course, the gutless wonder that is the AEC, did nothing about it.

Is before High Court non?
 

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Is before High Court non?
Yes, looks like challenges to Frydenberg and to Liu were lodged with the High Court (sitting as the Court of Disputed Returns) back in July. I don't know whether the hearing has been held yet.

The challenge to Liu was lodged on behalf of a constituent named Leslie Hall by lawyers acting for Oliver Yates. The ALP complained about the signage but didn't challenge her election.

 

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ALP putting a motion to the House to suspend standing orders in order to allow Ms Liu to make a statement to the House responding to the media reports, the discrepancies in her public statements in response to those reports and answering questions raised concerning her fitness to be a Member of Parliament.

Christian Porter is arguing vociferously against the motion in response. The ALP doesn't have the numbers to get the motion up, especially after the Speaker tossed out Tim Watts.
Won't be politicians that get Gladys out.

ASIO mate.
 

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makes you wonder how she got on the ticket in the first place...
They warned them not to.

ASIO still deeply dirty on government for leaking their advice on medevac. They dished the dirt on Dutton meeting with Xiangmo.

I suspect they didn't expect them to get re-elected though, so now lesson needs to come harder.
 

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This is the weirdest thing. All three have supported and opposed the issue on different occasions.

I’m sensing this agency might need to be set up as a separate arm of government like the courts.

Their powers of investigation almost unlimited (government related issues) but left to the courts to decide. This provides a powerful organisation free from politics but a control to ensure we don’t create a Gestapo.
 

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Might have to be because the visuals suggest that she isn't going anywhere.
Bloke who wasn't even pre-selected first up and had to run a filthy smear campaign to get up in his seat.

Chinese Communist influence agent in the middle.

Not eligible to sit on the right but gunna play the Holocaust card anyway.

What a crew.
 

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