Glenn Maxwell and his future

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Pretty sure he attampted a reverse sweep early in the innings, missed it by a foot. Happened to get out shortly after.
Correct. He played a shot to a ball that wasnt hitting the stumps and missed it and it has been brought against his name for 4 years. Its so weird considering how regularly the reverse sweep is now played in Test cricket.
 

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Correct. He played a shot to a ball that wasnt hitting the stumps and missed it and it has been brought against his name for 4 years. Its so weird considering how regularly the reverse sweep is now played in Test cricket.

The backlash about an imagined reverse sweep is just ludicrous and it's concerning how ignorant and out of touch some cricket fans are. The sweep (& yes in the past decade, the reverse sweep) is fairly unanimously considered the best method at your disposal to survive and prosper on the kinds of pitches & quality of spinners faced that UAE tour. Those who watched the Australian batsmen in that series (& many of other subcontinental tours) will recall countlesss batsmen being caught in no mans land prodding around trying to play wily and experienced spinners with a straight bat and failing. Maxwell is amongst a fair & growing number of batsmen in world cricket who can execute the skill with similar reliability to a conventional sweep.

I'm in the middle of the opinion spectrum with Maxwell, I don't feel there are that many tests where he should have played ahead of others. However the obsession that some hang on to about the reverse sweep on a subcontinent wicket being the pinnacle of recklessness is well and truly out of touch.
 
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It's bizarre that this sort of thing is clung onto like it's a gilt-edged guarantee that he doesn't deserve a spot, but Warner can try to swat bowlers for 6 in the first over of a test and get caught and it's 'just how he plays' or other players can get out chasing wide deliveries they have no business playing at but because it was a cut or a drive it's just forgotten immediately. Admittedly he'd just blasted 100 off 71 balls but Chris Gayle played one of the worst shots I've ever seen to gift his wicket at the WACA with his side still needing plenty of runs.

I can remember ABDV being bowled neck and crop a few times by deliveries that were retrospectively classed as peaches, but when you analyse them, he's been bowled because he's tried to hit the bowler out of the ground over the sightscreen.

Seems blatantly unfair that Maxi gets tarred by his brush but others don't get tarred by theirs.
 

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It's bizarre that this sort of thing is clung onto like it's a gilt-edged guarantee that he doesn't deserve a spot, but Warner can try to swat bowlers for 6 in the first over of a test and get caught and it's 'just how he plays' or other players can get out chasing wide deliveries they have no business playing at but because it was a cut or a drive it's just forgotten immediately. Admittedly he'd just blasted 100 off 71 balls but Chris Gayle played one of the worst shots I've ever seen to gift his wicket at the WACA with his side still needing plenty of runs.

I can remember ABDV being bowled neck and crop a few times by deliveries that were retrospectively classed as peaches, but when you analyse them, he's been bowled because he's tried to hit the bowler out of the ground over the sightscreen.

Seems blatantly unfair that Maxi gets tarred by his brush but others don't get tarred by theirs.

Not so sure about Warner getting a free pass here. Plenty of posters get ****ed off with his stupidity at times.

As regards CA, there has to be something else going on with Maxwell that the selectors just won't pick him. I would have thought that their obsession with batsmen bowling should be enough to get him picked any old time, though having Smith as skipper probably put the kibosh on that as he wouldn't even bowl his designated all-rounder anywhere near as much as he should have. But Paine might be a little more flexible. Hopefully.
 
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The Anti-Langer sentiment from the Vics is already annoying...

The fact he's been frozen out a couple of times indicates there's more going on than we're aware of.

I don't disagree that on merit alone he'd easily make the side, btw.

Has a touch of the Brad Hodge figjam's about him.

His confidence is misinterpreted as arrogance which rubs some people up the wrong way
 

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Cricket's a great game. The problem is, selectors have long memories, as well as their favourites, and sometimes lose sight of the fact that runs on the board should count for something.
For a sport where a players contribution to the team (runs, wickets, catches) is very easily defined and often a very individual achievement, cricket selectors (at all levels, this doesn't just apply in the professional ranks) seem to go off "the vibe" a lot more than they probably should.

Obviously there needs to be an element of judgement as to whether a players particularly style will carry to the next level, but it does feel like runs and wickets are largely irrelevant at times which doesn't make sense.
 
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There's an argument to be made that he's been treated fairly ordinarily by the selectors (particularly the mixed messages over the past six months) but he's no orphan in that regard.

He's a talented but inconsistent batsman in a country full of talented but inconsistent batsmen. The only thing separating him from the rest is his legion of mates in the media talking him up.
 
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Was a bit unlucky last time. Recalled and tonned up and while didn't set the world on fire was very unlucky to be dropped (was hardly the worse) and was replaced by the at the time misfiring Marshs. Since then he dominated shield cricket, ignored again, told not to go on the A tour (due to his previous record) or play County Cricket only to get gazumped by someone who did well in England and on the A tour.

Unfortunatly for Maxwell he is know whistling into a typhoon. There is no way he can reason/communicate/change his ways out of this.

Simply all he can do is bide his time, hope to get selected this summer. If not tell the powers that be he is off to the 20-20 circuit. He has maybe 5 years left at the top of his game with what is a very very difficult sport to make a professional living out of. He is simply another Hodge. No worth fighting it, selectors actions speak louder than words. Same boys club running the show which he is not in.
 
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Correct. He played a shot to a ball that wasnt hitting the stumps and missed it and it has been brought against his name for 4 years. Its so weird considering how regularly the reverse sweep is now played in Test cricket.

It's the timing of the shot that was the problem. Time and place for everything. When you are chasing a mammoth score and need to build a innings, a reverse sweep in the first half dozen balls you face is not how to go about it.
 
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Was a bit unlucky last time. Recalled and tonned up and while didn't set the world on fire was very unlucky to be dropped (was hardly the worse) and was replaced by the at the time misfiring Marshs. Since then he dominated shield cricket, ignored again, told not to go on the A tour (due to his previous record) or play County Cricket only to get gazumped by someone who did well in England and on the A tour.

Unfortunatly for Maxwell he is know whistling into a typhoon. There is no way he can reason/communicate/change his ways out of this.

Simply all he can do is bide his time, hope to get selected this summer. If not tell the powers that be he is off to the 20-20 circuit. He has maybe 5 years left at the top of his game with what is a very very difficult sport to make a professional living out of. He is simply another Hodge. No worth fighting it, selectors actions speak louder than words. Same boys club running the show which he is not in.
lol Hodge was a pretty ordinary player at Test level trying to break into one of the great teams. Comparing to Maxwell getting snubbed atm with a gutted Australain side is ridiculous.
 

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Hopefully he can make some runs in the final. The shot he got out to yesterday was deplorable
 

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What he needs to do is tell the ACB to get ****ed and then announce his international retirement from the shorter forms of the game until they promise to select him for the test team. In the mean time make a ton of runs in the Sheffield Shield and make packets of money in the IPL. When the ACB come crawling back tell them that he only announce availability if he can field in gully and bat at no 5.
 
What he needs to do is tell the ACB to get ****** and then announce his international retirement from the shorter forms of the game until they promise to select him for the test team. In the mean time make a ton of runs in the Sheffield Shield and make packets of money in the IPL. When the ACB come crawling back tell them that he only announce availability if he can field in gully and bat at no 5.
Why would you waste him in Gully? Guy is the best point fielder in the country.
 

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half the guys selected didn't even have form.

Australian Cricket needs a full internal review from external sources.

Unprofessional. Boys club sanctum. Selections being influenced by things which shouldn't influence it. Too many injuries to bowlers, not enough batting talent coming through, particularly for long format cricket.

Australian cricket needs a massive culture change and the inner sanctums being broken up for a start. State league cricket needs to be reviewed as it's not producing long format batsmen. Sports science and training methods need to be reviewed as it's not doing the job keeping our bowlers on the park. Selections for overseas conditions have not been good enough to select the right players. Player selections have been influenced by peoples personal opinions and feelings which is mind blowing unprofessional.

At this point in time Australian cricket is F***ed and has been for some time. Only been glossed over due to a few very very talented individuals driving success (Smith, Warner, Starc, Hazlewood, Lyon). This has been grossly exposed with a few unavailable and through the cheating scandal which is a part of it.

At the moment Australian Cricket looks like a bunch of mates running the show, picking their mates with their heads buried in the sand pretending there isn't a problem.
 
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Sport isn't a science, you can't look at form line and say this guy will make it and this guy won't. Players like Warne and Smith were picked on hunches. That said, the current selectors are too far over the shop, they need to be reined in somewhat.
 
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