Club Focus Gold Coast 2019 - Rowell, Anderson, Flanders, Sharp, Farrar in the National Draft

What is Gold Coast's main focus for the 2019 off-season?

  • Getting a priority pick

    Votes: 20 31.3%
  • Recruiting via academies & the draft

    Votes: 5 7.8%
  • Recruiting via trade & free agency

    Votes: 22 34.4%
  • Keeping the players they already have

    Votes: 17 26.6%

  • Total voters
    64

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Millsie69

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Totally agree, if we can manage it, we will have the makings of a good team.
Absolutely. I still feel that, instead of a couple of the draft concessions, the Suns should have been granted an increase in their footy department spending to make the club a more attractive proposition for potential recruits/draftees. Hire some more development coaches.
 

kreglze

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Absolutely. I still feel that, instead of a couple of the draft concessions, the Suns should have been granted an increase in their footy department spending to make the club a more attractive proposition for potential recruits/draftees. Hire some more development coaches.
Yeah I would have preferred that as well, and from all accounts in our submission we put that to the AFL, however, they seem to want to keep the salary cap and spending caps uniform, to keep the 'integrity' of the competition. Instead they are happy to compromise the draft for 3 years, don't get their thinking.
 

scratchy09

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If I was the Gold Coast list manager, I wouldn't trade these picks for anything. The deal would need to be so overs to even consider parting with picks 1 or 2 as by getting rid of one of the two, you open the door for the other of Rowell or Anderson to leave down the line. These two picks aren't for sale. Non negotiable.
 

the Ziebull

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So the over the top concessions have essentially given them Flanders and Sharp
Plus academy players for free as rookies instead of picks in the draft

Let’s say they deserved the pick 1/2
 

kreglze

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Can't complain, clearly we identified Sharp as a target that filled a massive need of ours and rated him as high as 11 next year, hell, Dew flew all the way to WA to present him with his jumper when he got picked. Would rather have him now, than 11 next year in a heavily compromised draft which may push out 11 to 15+, in what some say is a weaker draft than this year (I don't know but people seem to be commenting on it). We also get a year of development into Sharp as well. Looks odd and we definitely paid overs to get our man, but we got him in.
 

Kreuuuzeurns

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Can't complain, clearly we identified Sharp as a target that filled a massive need of ours and rated him as high as 11 next year, hell, Dew flew all the way to WA to present him with his jumper when he got picked. Would rather have him now, than 11 next year in a heavily compromised draft which may push out 11 to 15+, in what some say is a weaker draft than this year (I don't know but people seem to be commenting on it). We also get a year of development into Sharp as well. Looks odd and we definitely paid overs to get our man, but we got him in.
Our future 2nd and 3rd would’ve been a reasonable trade for 27.
 

kreglze

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Our future 2nd and 3rd would’ve been a reasonable trade for 27.
I don't think they would have done that to be honest. A lot of trades this year seemed to HEAVILY value the current draft over next years. Who knows I suppose, I'll back in our recruiters, won't know for a few years if it was worth it or not.
 

Foucault1989

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I don't think they would have done that to be honest. A lot of trades this year seemed to HEAVILY value the current draft over next years. Who knows I suppose, I'll back in our recruiters, won't know for a few years if it was worth it or not.
Seriously. Pick 11 for 27. Just god awful trading. Awful.
 

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kreglze

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Seriously. Pick 11 for 27. Just god awful trading. Awful.
I think it is questionable to compare one pick from the 2019 draft to a pick in the 2020 draft, all things are not equal and there are many variables across years.

I'll just leave this here as well. It may not appease you but gives some insight.

"We really rated Jeremy (Sharp). Going into last night (Wednesday) we would have selected him at 15, but we did that trade to come down and select Sam Flanders. Jeremy got through the first round and we did a bit of work on where he might end up. (He) rounded out the midfield mix. He's an elite outside runner, he's got a booming kick."
 

Foucault1989

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I agree, but the same was said for the stocker deal.

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Except we also got a future first which turned out to be a 6 pick downgrade. You didn't. You just gave up pick 11....do you know how insane that is? You could have traded Martin for a future 2nd and 3rd. Bundled them up with another 3rd for sharp and kept pick 11 for the elite end of the draft. Your club is atrocious. It's so funny watching big boi Cochrane flap his mouth. I want that turd to front up in 10 minutes when Martin is a free Carlton player.
 

Foucault1989

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I think it is questionable to compare one pick from the 2019 draft to a pick in the 2020 draft, all things are not equal and there are many variables across years.

I'll just leave this here as well. It may not appease you but gives some insight.

"We really rated Jeremy (Sharp). Going into last night (Wednesday) we would have selected him at 15, but we did that trade to come down and select Sam Flanders. Jeremy got through the first round and we did a bit of work on where he might end up. (He) rounded out the midfield mix. He's an elite outside runner, he's got a booming kick."
Every club says that...even mine. You used a future pick 11 for a pick 27. It has nothing to do with that player. You could have got that pick 27 from Geelong without selling one of your precious afl handouts. So funny. Your club is a living meme
 

kreglze

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Every club says that...even mine. You used a future pick 11 for a pick 27. It has nothing to do with that player. You could have got that pick 27 from Geelong without selling one of your precious afl handouts. So funny. Your club is a living meme
How do you know Geelong would have done that trade though?

Anyway, your clearly just frothing at the mouth to lay into GC at any point so there is no point going on, enjoy Martin.
 

Happy Idiot

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Except we also got a future first which turned out to be a 6 pick downgrade. You didn't. You just gave up pick 11....do you know how insane that is? You could have traded Martin for a future 2nd and 3rd. Bundled them up with another 3rd for sharp and kept pick 11 for the elite end of the draft. Your club is atrocious. It's so funny watching big boi Cochrane flap his mouth. I want that turd to front up in 10 minutes when Martin is a free Carlton player.
Martin is a Carlton player, for sure, but only one club has five wooden spoons over the most recent twenty-year period. Let's see if the Suns can manage to meet that standard set by your amazing club!
 

Happy Idiot

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Such a good deflection. Amazing.
No, do you know what a deflection is?

I acknowledged Martin is a Carlton player, and responded to your claim the Suns are atrocious by pointing out only one club has five spoons over the last twenty seasons. Brush up if you'd like to be more valuable to conversation going forward.
 

Foucault1989

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No, do you know what a deflection is?

I acknowledged Martin is a Carlton player, and responded to your claim the Suns are atrocious by pointing out only one club has five spoons over the last twenty seasons. Brush up if you'd like to be more valuable to conversation going forward.
What does Carlton's history have anything to do with the Martin situation or Gold Coast drafting and trading at the conclusion of the 2019 season? It doesn't. You brought it up to deflect the conversation away from your clubs inadequacies. This isn't a "History of the Carlton Football Club over the past 20 years". No. It's a Gold Coast off season thread
 

Happy Idiot

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What does Carlton's history have anything to do with the Martin situation or Gold Coast drafting and trading at the conclusion of the 2019 season?... You brought it up to deflect the conversation away from your clubs inadequacies.
It establishes a good standard for 'atrocious', which you claimed.

No thanks necessary, I'm happy to help — you'll be better for it in the future and your input to any discussion will be much more valuable in the future.
 

David C

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The last 2 drafts have been exceptional for Gold Coast. All of last years crew have already signed on and the top 2 picks this year look very committed. Only question mark is on Flanders but hopefully he will settle in ok. There is going to be a lot of competition for spots in the best 22. Miles shouldn't be getting a game by the end of 2020. Next year is probably a year too early but hey they said that about Brisbane.
 

carlton2dabone

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Gold Coast total and continued incomptence:

Gold Coast had the 2 top picks, and then pick 15 and 20 AND a pick 11 next year (thanks to AFL assistance package)...
There is no way they could have come out of draft as anything but the big winners, it was scripted that way by the AFL.

The first part went as scripted, they picked up the best 2 kids in the land with their first 2 picks, it was a fait accompli, a path that was pre chosen for them by the AFL.

As soon as they had some input on their own decision making during the draft, their rue colours started shining through.

They still had picks 15 and 20 plus next years pick 11 to secure what players they wanted next.

By having some input over their next draft decisions they got the ball rolling to trade pick 15 and 20 to carlton to move up the order and secure Flanders with Carltons original pick 9, a decision that on its own could have been seen as a small risk for a player they thought was worth it.

But true to Gold Coast form, that decision only signalled that once Gold Coast didn’t have the AFL scripting their trades/drafts for them, that as soon as they had their own decision making possible, that they would find ways of weakening the very very very strong hand that the AFL created for them during drafts.

And the way they found to do this was by trading away next years assistance pick 11 to Geelong for this years pick 27, that’s right folks, they traded a mid first round pick next year for a second round pick this year, and just to add to their stunning incompetence, as if trading away a first rounder for a second rounder wasn’t enough, they also threw in a little extra steak knife to sweeten the already completely one sided deal in favour of Geelong.

All this after the Gold Coast refused to accept Carltons offer of a second and third round pick for Martin during trade period, claiming that they had no need for pesky 2nd and 3rd round picks because of the abundance of first round picks the AFL assisted them with.

Thus not only losing Martin for absolutely nothing when he opted for the PSD as he clearly had threatened to do during that time, but also missing out on the ‘pesky’ future 2nd and 3rd picks that they earlier scoffed at before finding themselves wanting a second round pick this year so badly that they gave away a pick 11 next year to secure it at the last second.

This my friends, if orchestrated by any other club or list manager in the league would result in fans of the club and lovers of AFL in general to scream for the heads of those in charge of the club, YET at Gold Coast the supporters (the handful of them that exist) happily chug along accepting the total incompetence displayed by the club this year and in previous years, and general AFL fans sit back and laugh while accepting that the AFL continues to burn cash and picks on this woefully mismanaged club year after year for no reward.

Hahaha, just too funny :)
 

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