Club Focus Gold Coast 2020 - Atkins, Markov, Hollands

[Lore]

Data from footywire. To check the draft order (updated weekly) see the thread here.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

With all due respect, that is more wishful thinking I suspect.

The Suns have apparently spent months making a huge sales pitch to the AFL requesting why they should get a pre first 1 draft pick.

They ain't going in for this half-assed, they genuinely think they have a legit shot at it (getting a PP)

They can can think what they like doesnt mean they will get it. Theres no case for it.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

They can can think what they like doesnt mean they will get it. Theres no case for it.

I think there are plenty of valid reasons myself.

Can't hurt asking anyway.

 

[scratchy09]

St Kilda earned pick 3 last year, was it fair that they didn't end up drafting there? GWS earned pick 3 in 2014, was it fair that they didn't end up drafting there?

Yes it is. That is how free agency and pick trading works.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Yes it is. That is how free agency and pick trading works.

Thank you. Then it's also fair that Melbourne gets bumped down to pick 3 if the AFL choose to award pick 2 to the Suns. I'm not trying to pick on you in particular, just demonstrating to everyone reading that the logic is sound because the rules are as they are.

 

[scratchy09]

Thank you. Then it's also fair that Melbourne gets bumped down to pick 3 if the AFL choose to award pick 2 to the Suns. I'm not trying to pick on you in particular, just demonstrating to everyone reading that the logic is sound because the rules are as they are.

Even though I have since changed my tune and do believe Gold Coast need it, it isn't fair, however it is for the betterment of the comp if Gold Coast receive it. However, it doesn't make it fair as there aren't any rules, it is up to the AFL whether or not they see it fit. But I do now agree, they need the pick, even if it is unfair. Picking up two best friends, who are incredibly talented and will bolster the midfield will go a long way to helping the Suns.

 

[Stroppy]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm......

Equalisation is not fair. That is the whole point. The whole point.
It does not work otherwise.

It is supposed to be good for the Suns and bad for everyone else.

 

[DangerSloane]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm......

Equalisation is not fair. That is the whole point. The whole point.
It does not work otherwise.

It is supposed to be good for the Suns and bad for everyone else.

Throwing draft picks at the suns wont do anything.
Thats the point. The whole point.

 

[exile]

Throwing draft picks at the suns wont do anything.
Thats the point. The whole point.

not even if we traded them for a decent, mature player?
what else can they do? increase our salary cap again?

 

[DangerSloane]

not even if we traded them for a decent, mature player?
what else can they do? increase our salary cap again?

Established players have to want to come otherwise you just end up with another kid who may not want to be there
To a lesser extent we have the same problem in Adelaide.

 

[Jen2310]

 

[scratchy09]

Great move if the suns could land Burgoyne. Should consider targeting more Hawthorn players who may be on the outer as well who provide leadership and experience.

 

[Mikevk123]

If the suns can retain their kids and get some experience in they will be better next season. Rowell and Anderson to.

Out: Martin, Ah’Chee
In: Greenwood, Betts, Burgoyne, Armitage

B Harbrow Hombsch Ballard
HB Weller Thompson Bowes
C Fiorini Miles Macpherson
HF Sexton Wright Greenwood
F Betts Day Rankine
Foll: Witts Brodie Miller
Inter: Lukosius,Swallow,Burgoyne,King

 

[scratchy09]

If the suns can retain their kids and get some experience in they will be better next season. Rowell and Anderson to.

Out: Martin, Ah’Chee
In: Greenwood, Betts, Burgoyne, Armitage

B Harbrow Hombsch Ballard
HB Weller Thompson Bowes
C Fiorini Miles Macpherson
HF Sexton Wright Greenwood
F Betts Day Rankine
Foll: Witts Brodie Miller
Inter: Lukosius,Swallow,Burgoyne,King

Honestly a good list. Bowes is Mid though so I'd expect someone else like Hanley or Collins will play while someone else will make way.

 

[Jirik13]

If the suns can retain their kids and get some experience in they will be better next season. Rowell and Anderson to.

Out: Martin, Ah’Chee
In: Greenwood, Betts, Burgoyne, Armitage

B Harbrow Hombsch Ballard
HB Weller Thompson Bowes
C Fiorini Miles Macpherson
HF Sexton Wright Greenwood
F Betts Day Rankine
Foll: Witts Brodie Miller
Inter: Lukosius,Swallow,Burgoyne,King

Not sold on Armitage and Betts (as a player, happy for him to join in welfare/academy capacity).

Good team except you forgot Ainsworth.

Collins will be in the best 22 and I would expect Hanley, Powell too. Not sure Betts makes best 22 with a healthy list Rowell/Anderson will probably also start. A bit competition for spots.

 

[Jen2310]

Competition for spots is a good problem to have. Especially if the injury list stays down.

 

[Lore]

Rischitelli retired as per above, Martin and Ah Chee are requesting a trade as per their player threads, and now Leslie, Scheer and Nutting are being delisted:

Moment in the Sun over: Gold Coast axes three

Gold Coast has delisted Jack Leslie, Connor Nutting and Brad Scheer

www.afl.com.au

 

[Milanista28]

Imagine they could keep, Luko, King, Rankine, Anderson, Rowell together for their careers, Those 5 as pillars will ensure this club takes the next step.

Gotta get all 5 in the 1 room and sell that dream.

 

[branedotorg]

Happy for them to get a pp at the start of the draft although bemused as every by the AFL when Carlton and brissie were as bad or worse in recent years.

 

[Peel67skin]

Happy for them to get a pp at the start of the draft although bemused as every by the AFL when Carlton and brissie were as bad or worse in recent years.

To be fair, when Carlton and Brissie were bad you played against GWS and Gold Coast 18 years old kids or less travel. 16 team competition is a lot different than 18 teams competition.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Happy for them to get a pp at the start of the draft although bemused as every by the AFL when Carlton and brissie were as bad or worse in recent years.

Carlton and Brisbane had both made the finals in their existence, and within the previous decade. Gold Coast haven't.

 

[Chaisa]

IIRC Brisbane managed to get a priority pick anyway, though it wasn't before the first round.

The one that didn't get a priority pick in the last ten years despite being as poor as GC are now is Melbourne.

 

[scratchy09]

IIRC Brisbane managed to get a priority pick anyway, though it wasn't before the first round.

The one that didn't get a priority pick in the last ten years despite being as poor as GC are now is Melbourne.

I'd argue Melbourne do not need one as they play in an established heartland whereas Gold Coast don't. Making Gold Coast good while more and more juniors play will turn the region into AFL fans which is why they need the pick. Melbourne already play in an established heartland. However, this should be the last time (bar extremely dire circumstances) that any team should get a priority pick this high (excluding free agency).

 

[Damon_3388]

Great move if the suns could land Burgoyne. Should consider targeting more Hawthorn players who may be on the outer as well who provide leadership and experience.

If he's fit and willing to go there, I reckon Grant Birchall would be a great get.

 

[M Malice]

If the Suns can keep hold of most of their young talent over the next few years they are going to have the bones of an exceptional young list eg. Noah Anderson, Matt Rowell, Charlie Ballard, Ben Ainsworth, Jack Bowes, Jack Lukosius, Brayden Fiorini, Izak Rankine, Ben King, lots of star/x factor there.

That's not taking into account who they could get for their current picks 15 & 20 in this years draft + what they get for Jack Martin.

Then you have Hugh Greenwood, Brandon Ellis and maybe one/both of the Crouch brothers to add experience and leadership.

 

[gcsunsfc]

If the Suns can keep hold of most of their young talent over the next few years they are going to have the bones of an exceptional young list eg. Noah Anderson, Matt Rowell, Charlie Ballard, Ben Ainsworth, Jack Bowes, Jack Lukosius, Brayden Fiorini, Izak Rankine, Ben King, lots of star/x factor there.

That's not taking into account who they could get for their current picks 15 & 20 in this years draft + what they get for Jack Martin.

Then you have Hugh Greenwood, Brandon Ellis and maybe one/both of the Crouch brothers to add experience and leadership.

Yeah think we can really see things turning.
Relies on the guys you mentioned sticking about though so hope they can aswell,