Sure you dont want to buy a bridge?
Pathetic really, if that's all you can come up with.
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Sure you dont want to buy a bridge?
Maybe you would. It's a big one.Pathetic really, if that's all you can come up with.
Maybe you would. It's a big one.
Where is this claim?A person claiming that starting a club from scratch is nothing is impossible take seriously.
In your previous postsWhere is this claim?
Post where I said what you claim I said.In your previous posts
No.Post where I said what you claim I said.
The thought process is one that arises when you flat out lie about what I said.No.
What's the thought process that lead you to to think it's ok to tell me what to do?
It's not my responsibility to explain your posts to you. Nor will I follow your instructions. I get that offends you.The thought process is one that arises when you flat out lie about what I said.
Which is why you can't provide sources - because they don't exist.
I'm not offended.It's not my responsibility to explain your posts to you. Nor will I follow your instructions. I get that offends you.
Little? Troll?I'm not offended.
I just expect people to represent what I said accurately.
You are nothing but a lying little troll.
I simply asked you to post where I said what you attributed to me.Little? Troll?
Interesting conclusion. When you did you start to feel that was the appropriate response to people who wont do what you tell them to? Have you thought through the implications?
You did not ask. That's simply a lie.I simply asked you to post where I said what you attributed to me.
You couldn't, because I didn't say them.
You're a liar.
You did not ask. That's simply a lie.
Hello! Here is an interesting comparison of Hawthorn compared to Gold Coast, both 7 years after admittance to the VFL/AFL:GWS still have a chance to be successful.
They will still be a top 4 team for years to come.
GC are cooked. They missed the boat and are now waiting to die
Hello! Here is an interesting comparison of Hawthorn compared to Gold Coast, both 7 years after admittance to the VFL/AFL:
|Hawthorn|Gold Coast
\Spoon Count|3|1
\Lowest Avg Attendance Count|3|2
\Finals Appearances|0|0
Here are some fun facts about Hawthorn:
-It would take Hawthorn 32 years after its inception to reach the finals for the first time, and a further 4 years to become premiers.
-It took Hawthorn 19 completed seasons to reach average attendances for the first time.
-It didn't reach average AFL attendances again until 1990, 65 years after admittance to the VFL
-It only hit average attendance one time in the entire VFL period before the competition was renamed the AFL.
-Hawthorn has the second most lowest season average crowd counts in the history of the VFL/AFL (only North Melbourne beats Hawthorn in this statistic).
-Hawthorn has 78 below season average crowd counts, compared to 15 above season average crowd counts (over 80% of Hawthorn's crowd figures have been below average).
-9 of these season average beating crowd have occurred since 2008, prior to this the the tally was 77 below season average crowd to 6 above season average crowd (over 90% below average, with less season average beating crowds than premierships!).
-Since 2008 inclusive (after 83 completed seasons, 9 premierships prior to this, 5 additional grand final appearances and 12 additional finals appearances), Hawthorn has had 9 above season average crowds, and only 1 below season average crowd (with this year on track to be below season average too).
So based on these figures, it appears that Gold Coast has until 2094 to be consistently beating the AFL season average crowds!
Hopefully this puts everything into a bit more perspective.
Will you also label the post above a troll, because it dares to question another club, in a troll thread about the expansion clubs? Will you make statements and then outrageously deny them, heaping personal abuse on the poster? Or will you let it go cos you have no attachment to the Hawks.
GWS and Gold Coast will be fine, they are both well resourced long term projects, with the AFL having learnt a lot from the Swans/Bears experiences.Hello! Here is an interesting comparison of Hawthorn compared to Gold Coast, both 7 years after admittance to the VFL/AFL:
|Hawthorn|Gold Coast
\Spoon Count|3|1
\Lowest Avg Attendance Count|3|2
\Finals Appearances|0|0
Here are some fun facts about Hawthorn:
-It would take Hawthorn 32 years after its inception to reach the finals for the first time, and a further 4 years to become premiers.
-It took Hawthorn 19 completed seasons to reach average attendances for the first time.
-It didn't reach average AFL attendances again until 1990, 65 years after admittance to the VFL
-It only hit average attendance one time in the entire VFL period before the competition was renamed the AFL.
-Hawthorn has the second most lowest season average crowd counts in the history of the VFL/AFL (only North Melbourne beats Hawthorn in this statistic).
-Hawthorn has 78 below season average crowd counts, compared to 15 above season average crowd counts (over 80% of Hawthorn's crowd figures have been below average).
-9 of these season average beating crowd have occurred since 2008, prior to this the the tally was 77 below season average crowd to 6 above season average crowd (over 90% below average, with less season average beating crowds than premierships!).
-Since 2008 inclusive (after 83 completed seasons, 9 premierships prior to this, 5 additional grand final appearances and 12 additional finals appearances), Hawthorn has had 9 above season average crowds, and only 1 below season average crowd (with this year on track to be below season average too).
So based on these figures, it appears that Gold Coast has until 2094 to be consistently beating the AFL season average crowds!
Hopefully this puts everything into a bit more perspective.
Can add their stuff up of freo to.GWS and Gold Coast will be fine, they are both well resourced long term projects, with the AFL having learnt a lot from the Swans/Bears experiences.
TLDR: 36 years for Hawthorn premiership success, almost 100 years for crowd success. Stones and glass houses.
GWS still have a chance to be successful.
They will still be a top 4 team for years to come.
GC are cooked. They missed the boat and are now waiting to die