Opinion Gold Coast should be allowed to pay Ben King outside the Salary Cap

[Elmer_Judd]

I am sorry if this is going to be likely an unpopular opinion but I am one of those seemingly rare traditional state footy club supporters who wants the Suns to flourish and succeed in our league, and I think The AFL should introduce a Franchise Player rule (which I believe Ricky Nixon suggested years ago) where a club can pay its Marquee/Star of the club player/asset outside of The Salary Cap (within ATO reasons of course)

The Suns really cannot afford to lose BK after what they have been through, and I have no problem or issue whatsoever if the AFL can put in place a system where he can earn at least twice as much P/A than any other Eastern/Southern based club chasing him.

BTW this whole Franchise player OTC philosophy shouldn't just apply to the Suns, I would like it to apply to all clubs once over say during a 5-10 year period, to insure some equality in the game, especially for Non Victorian Clubs..

Gold Coast and the game of footy simply cannot afford to let Ben King

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Ben King

Age

23

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

slip out of the Suns fingers, and I would like to see some innovative measures put in place to ensure he re-signs at The Suns.

At any rate, it's either that or the Suns will get pick 1 as a Priority Pick compo if they lose King to say St Kilda or Essendon (or whatever club wins his services who will pay severe unders for a player of Ben's calibre anmm 0d upside, don't think for a moment the AFL and Gil won't do it either)

 

[RUNVS]

I am not a Gold Coast fan but I am getting sick of Victorian clubs acting like vultures towards Gold Coast players.

 

[JayJ20]

I am not a Gold Coast fan but I am getting sick of Victorian clubs acting like vultures towards Gold Coast players.

Ah yes it's just Victorians doing it. This though is fine:

Power list manager Jason Cripps today warned the club would likely attempt to poach the highly-rated pair should they be Gold Coast-bound after the November 22 draft night.

“If Lukosius and Rankine end up going to Gold Coast… we’re probably pretty happy to try to get them back in a few years’ time,” Cripps told the NAB TradeRadio podcast this morning.

 

[Sheepey]

Obligatory angry St Kilda noises

 

[Elmer_Judd]

I am not a Gold Coast fan but I am getting sick of Victorian clubs acting like vultures towards Gold Coast players.

To be fair , it's also SA clubs with regards to Rankine and Lukosisus, but get your point.

Something needs to happen from the AFL commission to protect the Suns from being raided almost every single season.

 

[RUNVS]

To be fair , it's also SA clubs with regards to Rankine and Lukosisus, but get your point.

Something needs to happen from the AFL commission to protect the Suns from being raided almost every single season.

Yep. Imagine where Melbourne would be right now, or Carlton for that matter if in their dark days as they were trying to rebuild every year they had players poached from them. It would be so much more difficult to rebuild.

 

[Engimal v3]

BTW this whole Franchise player OTC philosophy shouldn't just apply to the Suns, I would like it to apply to all clubs once over say during a 5-10 year period, to insure some equality in the game, especially for Non Victorian Clubs..

Why for non Vic clubs?

 

[Duskfire]

I want Gold Coast to succeed as well, but it is up to them to create a culture where players wish to remain. It sucks what happens to them and it would be a disaster if King left, but the club doesn't need more concessions to help it.

Also if King left it wouldn't really be for the money.

 

[JayJ20]

I don't agree. They already have priority picks and the academy to assist them. They don't need additional assistance.

GWS have had a lot of players leaving too, but they've managed to capitalise on that with smart trading, drafting and development of players.
Brisbane not long ago were in the same position with so many players leaving the club. They turned it around.

Gold Coast need to build a culture that people want to stay at. I believe they're currently building that with their young group.
Throwing money around isn't going to do anything to change that.

 

[Philhawk]

Problem is, they already basically did that for GWS and Coniglio and look how that played out.

 

[Kwality]

I am not a Gold Coast fan but I am getting sick of Victorian clubs acting like vultures towards Gold Coast players.

A very simple bonus should be available to the development States controlled by the AFL with decisions made public with full disclosure (not a strong point of the current AFL adminstration).
As tough as it is for Freo to lose Cerra after 75 games in 4 years, if that were the Suns, Lions or GWS, my suggestion maintains the status quo for the rest of the clubs including the Swans.

 

[Kwality]

Ah yes it's just Victorians doing it. This though is fine:

Doesnt include WA or SA clubs, so its not just Vics. These States in simple terms produce enough players is my thinking.

 

[RUNVS]

A very simple bonus should be available to the development States controlled by the AFL with decisions made public with full disclosure (not a strong point of the current AFL adminstration).
As tough as it is for Freo to lose Cerra after 75 games in 4 years, if that were the Suns, Lions or GWS, my suggestion maintains the status quo for the rest of the clubs including the Swans.

Losing players at the Swans is annoying but we haven't had the problem the expansion clubs have had. Of course that could change if we ever spent a few years down the bottom of the ladder.

 

[Kwality]

Problem is, they already basically did that for GWS and Coniglio and look how that played out.

Wasnt just going home, if that counts.

 

[Jazny]

I am not a Gold Coast fan but I am getting sick of Victorian clubs acting like vultures towards Gold Coast players.

Maybe they should should just fold for being a plastic corporate franchise that nobody wants to play for.

 

[Bostonian]

Yep. Imagine where Melbourne would be right now, or Carlton for that matter if in their dark days as they were trying to rebuild every year they had players poached from them. It would be so much more difficult to rebuild.

But they didn't have exclusive access to academies did they.

 

[RUNVS]

Maybe they should should just fold for being a plastic corporate franchise that nobody wants to play for.

As opposed to authentic clubs that have been around forever but even so very few people actually support?

 

[RUNVS]

But they didn't have exclusive access to academies did they.

The idea of academies is to help with player retention but it is a slow process. Gold Coast only have a few academy players on their list.

 

[Bostonian]

The idea of academies is to help with player retention but it is a slow process. Gold Coast only have a few academy players on their list.

And as the other states don't have that advantage or access to their states juniors then naturally they will look to get players back from a club like GC who are from their home states.

 

[Kwality]

Maybe they should should just fold for being a plastic corporate franchise that nobody wants to play for.

To ignore the benefits of the heartland States in terms of players coming out of contract suggests you are not fair dinkum.

As for the plastic franchises I point to the Eagles who are in the top clubs by any measure including the noise made by their fans & the $millions churned back into local footy.
Hang in there with your 1900s model that you so love.

 

[RUNVS]

And as the other states don't have that advantage or access to their states juniors then naturally they will look to get players back from a club like GC who are from their home states.

No but the other states have the advantage of players wanting to go home. St Kilda are banking on that with their targetting of Ben King. Who can Gold Coast target like that, pretty much no one.

 

[Bald]

Gold Coast will have infinitely more money to pay King than any other club will when the time comes. If he leaves, it won't be because of money.

 

[RUNVS]

Gold Coast will have infinitely more money to pay King than any other club will when the time comes. If he leaves, it won't be because of money.

and that somehow only makes it worse.

 

[Bostonian]

No but the other states have the advantage of players wanting to go home. St Kilda are banking on that with their targetting of Ben King. Who can Gold Coast target like that, pretty much no one.

That's the small limited reward for giving up recruiting zones and access to junior players.

GC benefits far more from Victoria producing players than players wanting to go home.

 

[slowedawg]

Yep. Imagine where Melbourne would be right now, or Carlton for that matter if in their dark days as they were trying to rebuild every year they had players poached from them. It would be so much more difficult to rebuild.

Yeah, no-one ever left Melbourne in our dark days for money or flags. They all stayed at the club.