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Opinion Goldsack as a winger/midfielder

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May 27, 2012
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I remember in the preseason games, Goldy was being played as that outside winger and actually did very well. It was also something he said that he has been working towards in the preseason (before he was forced to go and play third tall).

So, with us desperately needing some outside run and with the big unit Lynch presumably playing ruck/forward (giving us 2 full time KPFs in Cloke/Dawes), would Goldsack be better off on the wing or in the middle instead of up forward where we might be a bit top heavy?

That's before we even contemplate bringing back Ned Kelly into the team.

He's hard at the contest and at the man, sticks his tackles, can be a 1v1 beast, is deceptively fast and has a penetrating kick (50-55m consistently, plus his torps).

Daisy in full flight on one wing, and Goldsack on the other. Potential for some epic line breaking right there.

His work defensively at both ends of the ground also shows that he has what it takes to shut out opposition players. There might be room for him to be rolled into the guts and play that much talked about tagging role.

Now, he's not the smartest footballer going around but this was the first season in years where he's had almost the full preseason and look at the results. Another good preseason with quality instruction from the coaches would help him even more.

He's finally built up a bit of bulk and consistency into his game, so do you think this the next step for Moneybags?
 
I reckon keep him in the forward line. His ability to play tall will stretch most opposition defences given our tall timber riches!

Either way, nice post & I love the way Moaneybags goes about his business.
 
I think we found a spot for Goldy in 2012, as that defensive extra in the forward line, and with Lynch now joining Cloke and Dawes down there, we will need Goldy's defensive pressure more then ever.

If anything I'd consider Harry for a more attacking role, his defensive skills are questionable, so to move him up the ground might transform both him and the team in 2013.
 
Funnily enough, I had thought that one of Goldsack, Shaw and O'Brien ought to be partners in crime with Daisy on the wing. I decided to make the thread about Goldsack though because we still need runners in the back half and we might have too much tall timber in the forward line with Lynch.

Can't argue with your thinking though.

:thumbsu:
 

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Don't think Goldy has the tank for that role and personally I think he found his niche up forward. But having said that he is a great utility player who might play several role next year depending on match up. For the wing we desperately need Daisy to step back up to the form of 2011. He looked injured this year but has the tank to do the gut busting running required.

I wouldn't mind Fasolo developing his tank over summer to be part of the mid field rotations
 
I actually think goldsack should mould his game around lrt. Saw a lot of similarities in the way they play and they would be about the same size except for about 5kgs goldsack lacks. Deffs think he could be a pretty damaging swingman
 
If anything I'd consider Harry for a more attacking role, his defensive skills are questionable, so to move him up the ground might transform both him and the team in 2013.

as i mentioned in the initial list summary, harry really needs to reinvent himself to be relevant versus the big team.
 
I actually think goldsack should mould his game around lrt. Saw a lot of similarities in the way they play and they would be about the same size except for about 5kgs goldsack lacks. Deffs think he could be a pretty damaging swingman

BINGO. LRT is the perfect comparison. Should be his aim!
 
Not a bad option. The Caff can hopefully play the role Goldie played this season, and this would allow Goldie to play on a wing. Just instruct him to get the pill, take the game on and run. Goldie just turning into the player where you just say Do what you want Sack! :) Love the bloke!
 
I actually think the idea of moving OBrien from the defence is a very good idea. Also think Goldsack could be rotated through wing and the forward line. We need to be more unpredictable next season.
 
Goldsack is a footballer. He can play anywhere, and most times does exactly what is asked of him. When the Caff gets back to his position as the defensive forward, with Dawes at FF and the other forward being our resting mid, we're back on track to play our best footy. Ala 2010. I'd look at Harry, Goldy or Shaw to play Leon's role as an attacking half back. (just a thought)
 
Goldsack is a footballer. He can play anywhere, and most times does exactly what is asked of him. When the Caff gets back to his position as the defensive forward, with Dawes at FF and the other forward being our resting mid, we're back on track to play our best footy. Ala 2010. I'd look at Harry, Goldy or Shaw to play Leon's role as an attacking half back. (just a thought)


This.

Goldy will play wherever needed. Will probably get squeezed out of the forward line next year. He is a genuine utility but will probably be used at wing or half back. Might even be a run-with type.
 

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Nup. Nope. Nada.

He's a defensive forward now. IMO, one of the best going around too. He'll only get better in the role as he gains more experience there.

More importantly, with a proper coach who doesn't appear to play favourites, Goldsack is now a permanent member of the starting 22. As it should be.

F**king Malthouse.
 
nah, has played there before and doesn't find the footy. Better of keeping him up forward or playing in defense on a man. He is very good one on one but he just isn't a midfielder.
 
Goldsack has found his spot now. Love seeing his forward pressure. He is quick and has a red hot go.
Although it is good to know that he can be shifted down back and thrown on a wing.

I like the idea of seeing how Harry O goes in another position... Might be more than handy on a HFF

Yep. Teach him when and how to lead and he'll become a fantastic forward.
 
leave him up forward. He's a deceptively good mark, can tackle, is defensive, is smart enough to block/shepherd without giving away frees. We can also swing him back or in the mids when the need arises.
 
Under no circumstance would I move Goldsack to the wing.

Doesn't get nearly enough ball up the field. Footskills while he has penetration mostly poor.

Keep him as a forward where his footskills don't get shown up and where we can get the most out of his excellent tackling game.

If Dawes leaves the Goldsack is likely that 3rd tall to play with Cloke/Lynch.

On a wing we should have: Sidebottom/Fasolo/Johnson/Clarke/Seedsman. All are much better up the ground.
 

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Yep. Teach him when and how to lead and he'll become a fantastic forward.

Agreed. I think he was starting to pick it up properly towards the end of the season.
He will only get better next year.

Will be handy having Cloke, Dawes (is he stays), Lynch (Leroy Role) & Goldsack up forward.
Some people may say pretty top heavy but Goldsack is effectively as quick as a small but has the height which could be difficult to match up on.

Throw in 2 smalls/players with X-Factor such as Krakouer, Fasolo, Didak or even Daisy and that is a pretty damn dangerous forward line
 
Have always seen Goldy as a future replacement of Maxy in the backline..Similar size,aggressive, Goldys quicker and a bigger kick...That 3rd man up in the backline is Goldys gig imo
 
Have always seen Goldy as a future replacement of Maxy in the backline..Similar size,aggressive, Goldys quicker and a bigger kick...That 3rd man up in the backline is Goldys gig imo


Yep, he could do the Josh Gibson role you'd think - but equally, agree with many others his stature as a defensive forward / third tall is growing game by game.

His attack on the ball carrier has become fearsome and clearly No 1 in our current team IMO ( with Luke Ball out ) I thought re really set the tone in the semi vs WCE.

Perhaps the Pies most improved player, though Beams might have a say, and definitely best 22 now that he's been given a chance to develop confidence, and I see his progression as growing year to year.

Just better be with us, that's all...
 
Have to agree with Grant Thomas... Goldy is the Max Rooke of Collingwood...He's the heart and soul..an example of sacrifice for the good of the team...
 

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