News Gone: Daniel Talia

[1970crow]

He hasn't gotten on the park in 18 months. Club now has an absolute plethora of options at KPD.

My guess is that the decision not to extend him is a mixture of list direction and knowing just how severe his injury is.

Let him have a few pot shots at the club on the way out, we just have to continue to show that we have valued/cherished him as a player, and make sure we stay classy on our end.

18 months is a bit misleading, he played out last year, albeit with that torn meniscus. It'll be close to 18 months by the time he could conceivably get back on the park. I'm not convinced that it's all about the injury. We're constantly told the value of experience and leadership absent of actual performance. If we wanted him around we'd have offered a small contract with base + games and a trigger for a second year. We could either move him to the rookie list after the ND or delist him with the promise of re-drafting him on terms in the RD if we wanted the list spot earlier.

 

[1970crow]

I wonder how Talia now views the back end of 2020?

Played through injury and delayed surgery to help us get a few wins. Desperate to help start build some sort of winning culture. In his mind sacrificed his own body for the team to help Nicks get his coaching reign off the ground.

12 months later...?

Do we know that was his motive? Trying to keep Butts away from his spot looks like the right move in hindsight. What advice would Sauce and Thommo provide?

 

[StickerMan]

Over thenpast few years we have seen:

- Jenkins leak info to the media
- Crouch take Stengle out on a coke bender
- Sauce refuse to play sanfl
- Tex's racial slur
- Talia throw rocks at the club on his exit

Your senior players are a big part of a clubs culture journey, I can see why Nicks wants to clear the deck

Time for the next generation to lead this club forward



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This is the part that was very disappointing and was when the level of entitlement from senior players was exposed.

Nekminnit we employ him back in another jobs for the boys appointment!

 

[spenze]

Meh, think the club should be the bigger person here and reach out to him. I understand why he's angry, even if he hasn't channelled it well, the club should be opened arms to him with this. If we are saying we have a culture change then we shouldn't let an ex club champ walk from an important event, in fact we should have all ex club champs at these events...if culture is important.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Meh, think the club should be the bigger person here and reach out to him. I understand why he's angry, even if he hasn't channelled it well, the club should be opened arms to him with this. If we are saying we have a culture change then we shouldn't let an ex club champ walk from an important event, in fact we should have all ex club champs at these events...if culture is important.

This is where Sloane comes in as captain. Or doesn't

 

[1970crow]

Talia's body quitting on him shows how important it is that we don't let our players play through injury. Need to take things out of their hands to a degree and protect them from themselves.

Our coaches need to grow a pair.

Malcolm Blight: "I'm not here to make friends."

His statement about why he played injured is still as much bullshit now as it was then. If we were top 4 as if he wouldn't play. As Thommo said in 2016, his advice to players is that when it's finals it doesn't matter how injured you are, your hand goes up.

 

[Mutineer]

It was a foot injury that kept him out not the previous knee issue.
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to have foot surgery

Veteran Adelaide defender Daniel Talia

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Daniel Talia

Age

34

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197cm

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98kg

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12.0

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will miss the next eight to 10 weeks after being struck down by a serious foot injury.
The two-time All-Australian had made a full recovery from post-season knee surgery and was preparing to return to play before developing foot pain over the past fortnight.
Scans showed inflammation of a tendon in his left foot which has not responded to a conservative rehabilitation plan and has prevented him from running.
Talia was sent for a specialist review after reporting the ongoing soreness, and he will undergo surgery this week to address the issue.

"Further investigation into Daniel's foot pain has shown it is the result of a bone spur which is irritating a tendon," Crows head of football Adam Kelly said
"It's been determined that surgery is going to be required for his foot injury.

 

[1970crow]

Lol that excuse is obvious bullshit.
These guys are AFL footballers, there would have been numerous times that he’s been out with family or friends to functions and has been unable to drink alcohol there, these guys are used to it.

Used to it as a group and all in the same situation. But different when your fellow teammates are on the gas but you can't be. That said, 1 day off nursing a hangover won't set him back too far. Especially if he's over the injury as he's said.

 

[1970crow]

Over thenpast few years we have seen:

- Jenkins leak info to the media
- Crouch take Stengle out on a coke bender
- Sauce refuse to play sanfl
- Tex's racial slur
- Talia throw rocks at the club on his exit

Your senior players are a big part of a clubs culture journey, I can see why Nicks wants to clear the deck

Time for the next generation to lead this club forward



On SM-G973F using BigFooty.com mobile app

That Brad continues to get blamed for Stengle being out on a coke bender amuses me given what followed. It's just as likely Stengle had Brad out on a bender. It's weird ageism, noth8ng more. It just must have been the older guy corrupting the younger guy. Obviously Stengle hadn't ever seen cocaine until Brad dragged him to that alleyway that morning.

 

[Soggy2112]

That Brad continues to get blamed for Stengle being out on a coke bender amuses me given what followed. It's just as likely Stengle had Brad out on a bender. It's weird ageism, noth8ng more. It just must have been the older guy corrupting the younger guy. Obviously Stengle hadn't ever seen cocaine until Brad dragged him to that alleyway that morning.

Also we’d be kidding ourselves to think cocaine is exclusively an AFC thing.

 

[MRB37]

Wonder if he'll spill the beans as to what went wrong at the mid season bye in 2019. Something clearly went bad at that point, which saw us turn into a bottom two side from then onwards.

Pyke ****ed with the gameplan again and went back to the slow ball movement stuff from early in the year (you know where he'd rack up a dozen possessions in our defensive 50 over a 90 second period and end up back where we started) and the players quit completely.

 

[1970crow]

Yes he did.

The injury didn't get worse once he'd had a scan.

The injury was the injury. He's described not being able to train, run or change direction.

Whether we've made the right call now is not the issue. I am glad we've moved him, Lynch and Mackay on. What I'm wondering is how he now views the decisions he and the club made at the back end of 2020.

Imthink it's simple. Our senior players want to play regardless of degree of injury and our coaches are philosophically aligned to experience and continuity. The 2 sides feed off each other. Could it be that contracts for players closing in on 30 all include significant benefit for games played? We don't know, but we do know that our senior players continue to play injured and appear to flatly refuse to miss games. And our coaches won't drop them no matter how bad their performances get.

 

[Golumless]

Pyke f’ed with the gameplan again and went back to the slow ball movement stuff from early in the year (you know where he'd rack up a dozen possessions in our defensive 50 over a 90 second period and end up back where we started) and the players quit completely.

That slow ball movement game had us at 8-4 at the bye. Can be completely ruled out as a reason, as if this was a simple gameplan issue, the players would have started the year horribly.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was something innocuous, which combined with how toxic the club was at that point, just broke the back of it. Seeing the club had been fracturing since 2017, thinking back to how we handled Lever leaving the club, and how players were arguing with him in the grand final.

 

[xazos79]

Pathetic. Loved him. Love him less now.

 

[MRB37]

That slow ball movement game had us at 8-4 at the bye. Can be completely ruled out at this point.

They changed it up massively after the first month where we were 1-3. We went 7-3 after the loss to the Roos, then the bye came, Pyke tinkered again and outside of blowing out the Suns we were terrible.

 

[1970crow]

Also we’d be kidding ourselves to think cocaine is exclusively an AFC thing.

I don't think anyone has ever suggested that.

 

[Soggy2112]

I don't think anyone has ever suggested that.

True, I just don’t think Crouch or Stengle deserves that continually being brought up as knocks against them just because they were the ones who were caught.

 

[1970crow]

True, I just don’t think Crouch or Stengle deserves that continually being brought up as knocks against them just because they were the ones who were caught.

Couldn't agree more. The handling of Stengle/Crouch as opposed to positive tests shows that there's no genuine health policy because if the strike is from a public act, you're treated more harshly.

 

[rocket18]

Whatever has happened, however it’s been handled it’s a shame that Talia can’t see this isn’t the way to exit.

perfect time to take the high road, he might regret it no matter how aggrieved he feels

there’s no capital to made by taking such a stance. And it might just make another team wonder about his bonds with teammates

No capital for him but the more spotlight thrown on our poor culture the better.

 

[jenny61_99]

This is the part that was very disappointing and was when the level of entitlement from senior players was exposed.

Nekminnit we employ him back in another jobs for the boys appointment!

To be fair, he's doing a bloody good job.

 

[spenze]

Bigger question here is exactly how drunk does Talia get at these things that he feels it would impact on his recovery?

We talking a few cans over or is he getting into Dean Martin/George Best territory where a weekend bender turns into a decade

 

[spenze]

This is where Sloane comes in as captain. Or doesn't

Just get Doedee to do it then. I don't have faith in Rory as a leader of men

 

[StickerMan]

To be fair, he's doing a bloody good job.

What is his job exactly? And, how is it measured that he is doing well?

 

[1970crow]

Bigger question here is exactly how drunk does Talia get at these things that he feels it would impact on his recovery?

We talking a few cans over or is he getting into Dean Martin/George Best territory where a weekend bender turns into a decade

Maybe a bit worried about a loosened tongue.

 

[1970crow]

What is his job exactly? And, how is it measured that he is doing well?

has a few beers with corporate supporters and talks about the good old days.