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News Gone: Daniel Talia
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I could definitely understand him being upset not getting another contract - but not so much if he can’t pass a medical and we are clearly developing kids.
Didn’t see Hartlett respond like that when Port moved him on.
He spent a lot of great years at the club and shame he felt the need to publicly burn his bridges at the end
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His body has been shot for years… now unfortunately he’s just a lame thoroughbred.
Sad, but that elite sport.
Oh and he loves money. That probably also played a part in his bitterness to the absent new contract offerings.
Sad, but that elite sport.
Oh and he loves money. That probably also played a part in his bitterness to the absent new contract offerings.
You can't compare Hartlett to Talia, they are different people.
Talia wears his heart on his sleeve, we all praised him when he basically called the team out for not being good enough when he won the B&F. He hasn't suddenly change as an individual. Obviously he disagreed with our assessment and he spoke his mind like he always has.
Same guy the entire time, the only difference is he's no longer on the list and many are quick to defend the club and attack him.
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If we forced him to play on that torn meniscus then I hope he sues the hell out of us. If not, he made his bed.
I don't think we "forced" him to play, but we do have a duty of care to our players and that includes not allowing them to play when they're not right.
Unless he hid the nature of his injury from us, he would have a very reasonable case to argue about being misused by the club, to his detriment.
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My firm view is that it's akin to an abusive relationship. Our coaches fear lack of continuity and plummeting average games played numbers. And our senior players seem to have a distaste for allowing a backbone player, or god forbid a crusher, to be elevated to their spot. They both prey on each other's weakness.
Nicks actually spoke publicly about the risk of Rory experiencing permanent damage to his finger having missed the short window to eliminate the risk. Reminds me of this.
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Not sure where the soft cap is for us but if we could afford a development role coaching for a couple of years, he'd be a decent get
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Unless we prevented appropriate medical advice being given or the medical advice has been proven wrong, players are still making their own informed decisions on whether to play.
I think he is an entitled brat and moving him on is a big step in the right direction culture wise
If he wants to do a development coach let him do it elsewhere.
Enough of this boys club bullshit. It never ends well.
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This is a reasonable line of thinking but then if he is the best available regardless, you pick him. I would certainly look at Dan for a specialist role. One of the best defenders ever at our club. The kids would look up to him. Daniel always had leadership qualities.
What I don't understand is how the degree of the tear isn't discovered until end of season scans. Surely our coaches and other staff/players noticed his lack of ability to turn at training or train at all. At the elite level, how does a player not have those scans to see what the damage is to ensure it's not of the type that could get worse and that playing jabbed up is perfectly ok. We can't force him to get scans to determine the extent of the injury, but we also don't have to play him if we think he's too injured, thereby forcing his hand anyway.
Reality is that he wantEd to play despite the nature of the injury and if he was happy to do that then we're happy not knowing and selecting him.
If he is the best available he'd know the best thing for his career would be to go elsewhere.
If he signed as a coach for us we would know he had no other offers.
Also he can't be the best because he doesn't bring in any new knowledge to our system. He doesn't have outsiders perspective.
It really is a shame because he did say that he was actually going to start mentoring the kids next year. Like Truck did with him because Truck showed him the respect.
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He should have been mentoring them this whole time, something very odd about the whole situation.
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All clubs have players who are playing despite battling injuries (see May in the GF) but we mismanaged the hell out of our senior players for a number of years.
Seedsman, Walker, Sloane, B. Crouch, M. Crouch, Jacobs, Brown, Talia and you could argue ROB. Guys like Milera (with his shoulder) and Knight too. Then there was the Lynch sub debacle.
Last year was on him though. We had the spoon wrapped up in the first ten rounds and were looking to get games into Butts and McAsey. Continuing to play with an obviously shot knee was sheer stupidity.
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The fact he didn't do it from the moment they walked in the door shows he is ill suited to coaching.
Nah, he has been one of my favourite players but you have to take the best people.
Those roles shouldn't be to soften the blow of delisting. It wasn't a huge surprise and he could of done more if he really wanted to go down that path.
He has obviously invested well over the years but I think he will miss the 500k+ per year salary.
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I highly doubt that talia has not been working with butts, I wish Talia well and it seems an unfortunate case of his body can’t get up to play AFL anymore.
We've known for a while that we've fostered a culture of entitlement among senior players. I think we can trace it back to Neil Craig creating the 2 lesser groups, backbone and crusher. We had the uncategorised but fully fledged player and then the 2 lower groups.
What's really odd is that he thought it normal enough to publicly declare that he deliberately hadn't and to then liken it to Truck and him because Truck showed him the respect. The implication there is that until now, he didn't have the respect for Butts et al to give them the mentoring time of day. Totally weird, but not really surprising when considering the senior player entitlement and talk of cliques.
The cynic in me wonders if he only started talking of mentoring to try and get another contract
So you think he went out of his way to lie to us by saying that he hadn't? I suppose you believe that Thommo focussed on coaching the SANFL mids in 2017 and not on his own game and getting back into the 1s as well? Reality is that Talia was well known as having a single mindedness around his own preparation and he'd been doing it tough since his early 20s. And he stated as fact that he was about to begin imparting his knowledge on the new guys. Why would you not believe him?