Good luck Jarryd Lyons
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What does 'as woke as you' mean?
Frothing at the mouth I'd say. Some very poor judges of footballing talent.
The word was that he didn't want too much more than what our offer already was. If we'd delisted Thommo and thrown his $250k at Lyons, would he have stayed?
It's not bang on the money because Thommo played one game in the season following Lyons' departure. He wasn't part of the midfield plans, he was given a gold watch contract. Stiffy is normally right, but he's dead wrong including Thommo in his rationale.
Like Neeld at Melbourne. Let's just say the jury is out on Dew. We had a low 2 year contract in front of Jarryd then GC, pre Dew offered him 3 at more. Brisbane have now offered a further 2 years. Evidence thus far points to Dew having made a bit of a mistake. Time will tell though.
Caro said on AA that even with Lynch going they were still jammed up the clacker in terms of cap space.
I think it was more about playing group culture with Shaw. Talk was there was a group of premiership players who thought they'd done enough.
I'm not sure that Gold Coast is a team that could do much in the way of helping someone generate stats outside of clearances. They've been completely s**t for the 2 years that he's been there. He averaged about 20 off a flank in his last year with us. Very little stoppage time and lowish TOG.
Playing for Brisbane might give him the best chance to show what he can do, although I think they said something about him supporting others. He’ll be behind Neale Zorko etc but hopefully for his sake he can get a good run at it
I think the only valid knock on Jarryd is his disposal efficiency. But, those that actually watch him play would know that for a stoppage midfielder he kicks more often than standard. He's one of the few players that exit stoppages with ball in hand on foot. If he dished off a bit more by hand, he'd improve his DE significantly. But because he often gets the ball while on the move and travelling at goal, his options by hand out of the contest are mostly behind him. He doesn't have the pace to burn off an opponent, so he's often kicking without a lot of time to assess options and execute. Still, it is a weakness because David Mackay tells us that you can have a pretty good kicking DE without hitting targets. You just need to kick to space or to a 50:50 contest.
I remember he had a purple patch of 3 best on grounds including a stunning game for Juniors 300th playing alongside Gablett. I think this was when his detractors first started feeling they may have got it wrong. But like our mate Trump instead of admitting their mistake they doubled down on him.
I think he showed his capability in 2017 playing alongside one of the best players in AFL history. Dew wasn’t there to see that form and although his 2018 form wasn’t a patch on it once Junior left and Stewie Dew arrived it was statistically quite good. Good enough to not be sacked mid contract.
This line was pedalled by certain posters as the reason we shipped him off!
So it is amusing to see David Noble now debunking that myth.
Something else that's interesting is the posters claiming that 24.5 touches isn't great for an inside midfielder because it's a stat racking up role. These would be the same posters who were thrilled to carry Thommo from rounds 7 onwards in 2016 averaging 21 per week from +80%TOG and without a single shred of defensive spread. It's just pure bias against a player and nothing to do with his actual output or level of talent.
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Not sure if serious. If you are, doesn’t explain the voting in suns b&f. They couldn’t be more blatent in what they think about him than that.
Are the Suns the new benchmark in best practice decision making in your view?
Why are you so excited about their prospects?
Shaz2012
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Me, excited about the Suns???
You must have me mistaken for someone else. I think they are a basketcase and I think they are going about everything the wrong way.
Lyons is the least of their problems. They shouldn’t have let May go until next year. The argument seems to be they don’t want people there who don’t want to be there. Perhaps this covers Lyons as well now. But it’s just not a sustainable argument with the suns. Are they going to let Rankine and Luko walk in 2 years when they say they don’t want to be there either. I don’t think so. Therefore I am calling bullshit now.
If they don’t take both the King brothers this year then imo they are getting the basics of list management wrong and will get no sympathy from me down the line.
