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#51
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Sorry I disagree. Begley was not the worst player out there bu he wasn't one of our best either. Again I say, Didak was dangerous when he was on Begley. He kicked a goal and missed a couple on Begley. Yes Begley got a lot of the ball and rovided reboun but he wasted the footy.

Mattner was hopeless. End of story. He was down right pathetic and WAS our worst player. Yes he laid 3 good tackles but apart from that he was PATHETIC.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on Begley, Stiffy. I thought him going off was a turning point in that 3rd quarter.

As for Mattner, I'm not championing his cause, but I don't think he was our worse player. I gave that to Shirley and Welsh.

Welsh used to be a top-liner when he first came back to Adelaide. He's far too comfortable now.
 

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If results go as planned this weekend the 7th placed club will still only be on 4 wins, making the Crows only 2 wins off of 7th.
If you guys were asked your toughest run at the start of the year you would of said the past three weeks, games against Port, Essendon and Collingwood. To be a top 4 side you would of expected to win 2-3 of these, to be a top 8 side you would of expected to win one of these games. It was always going to be a super tough first 10 rounds for the Crows, it is downhill now and if you can win 8 out of the last 13 you shall scrape into the eight.
The way the team is playing at the moment I think you will win 6 games for the whole year, but if the Crows play to their potential they could give the eight a shake.
Doubt you guys will get the spoon as you will win at least 6 games.
Sorry for intruding but I just thought a bit of optimism was needed around here.
 

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Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
Get serious. Why would we trade the greatest player in our club's history? What are you on?
I don't think we should trade him......but we HAVE to find out what his issues are. He stayed in first gear all night tonight. He no longer does the HARD things. He waits outside packs so he can do the flashy stuff. It is not the Andrew McLeod we love playing at the moment - its his half hearted, hack, evil twin brother I am sure of it - haha - but no seriously - something is happening in his mind and we need to find out what it is. At the moment he is about as usefull as me.

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#57
Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
I don't think we should trade him......but we HAVE to find out what his issues are. He stayed in first gear all night tonight. He no longer does the HARD things. He waits outside packs so he can do the flashy stuff. It is not the Andrew McLeod we love playing at the moment - its his half hearted, hack, evil twin brother I am sure of it - haha - but no seriously - something is happening in his mind and we need to find out what it is. At the moment he is about as usefull as me.

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Yes, when was the last time McLeod went thru a congested area/pack and casually picked up the ball all in one motion. Noticed he is kicking around corners and getting caught. Something is wrong and its about time we were told what!!!
 

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#58
Originally posted by AngelEyes
Plus I mean, I rate the Bulldogs and Hawthorn really low, so we arent guaranteed the bottom possie on the ladder.
That's ths spirit!

Time to start being realistic about where we stand, I'm afraid. We've been sold a ****-and-bull story for a while ...
 

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#59
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Give me a ****ing break.

He had his pants pulled down by Didak. Mattner once again had his pants pulled down by Woewodin.
Lots of pants being pulled down round your parts, Stiffy. You must have had a fun Friday night ... ;)
 

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With 8 home games left the Crows can still give the finals a shake. But its all to do with confidence and trying to re-grow as a team at the moment.

If you can win a game or two by Round 12, start to get some confidence back, find a gelling formula, gameplan and line up then the Crows will definately come back.

At the moment you guys just seem totally lacking of all confidence, no real formula in going forward and a lot of players are out of form.

Its scary to note that Mcleod is averaging over 20 disposals a game this year yet for the life of me i cant think of many stand out plays his had. He had 25 disposals last night...wouldnt have thought that at all.

Its definately a sign that something is blatantly wrong with Andrew Mcleod. For him to be picking up as many disposals as he used to yet have minimal to zero impact on a game of football isnt right.

His pace has all but gone completely, his disposal of the ball lately has been shocking and sad to say but he doesnt seem to be playing with any heart at all.

Maybe he has problems or something on his mind. Maybe hes just getting old and hes lost that yard of pace so doesnt have as much time as he used to.

Must say you guys are missing Goodwin in that engine room.

As for Welsh. Someone should tell him he isnt anywhere near as good as what he obviously thinks he is.

Look at the positives tho. Exposed some young players to some good game time at senior level for the first time. Hentschel, Jericho, Bock, Hudson (tho he isnt young, hes still a rookie). The continued improvement of Mcgregor. Begley proving himself a fine footballer in defence. Massie as well. Im sure the likes of Reilly, Rutten and maybe Watts by the end of the year will have played some good games at AFL level.

Unless the Crows totally tank the second half of the year, which i doubt, then i think the crows will win enough games to finish 9-10th. Probably 8 or 9 wins for the year.
 

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#62
Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
sweetheart....they ARE out of reach!

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Hunny thanks for providing such an entertaining start to the weekend :D

We sucked last night. Infact I have to ask myself after last weeks performance why did I back them??

*BRING BACK BODEY*
 

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#63
Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
I don't think we should trade him......but we HAVE to find out what his issues are. He stayed in first gear all night tonight. He no longer does the HARD things. He waits outside packs so he can do the flashy stuff. It is not the Andrew McLeod we love playing at the moment - its his half hearted, hack, evil twin brother I am sure of it - haha - but no seriously - something is happening in his mind and we need to find out what it is. At the moment he is about as usefull as me.

k
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Andrew McLeod will not improve until changes are made at coaching level and he's not the only player. I've heard this straight from one of the players.
 

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#64
Originally posted by Blues_Girl
Andrew McLeod will not improve until changes are made at coaching level and he's not the only player. I've heard this straight from one of the players.
Now THAT makes sense.
If as most people belive Ayres (even typing his name now makes me grind my teeth) is gunna be sacked at years end.
then what is the value of keepigk him on now?
If the players wont play for him then surley something should be done.
I propose that we treat the mid season break as a new season and make ALL the changes then, sack old players (beg carey to stay) but make a statement with others. obviously get rid of Ayres.

we should then get a RELIEF coach not walace or eade. But maybe a retired coach, Parkin,Cornes,Alves, a stop gap mesure. ( not a radical new age coach but a simple one ).
then after the finals (collingwood only had 3 wins this time last year) we search world wide for a motavator and do away with the whole "head coach" concept.
maybe we could get someone like blight to be our matchday strategist (a gameday only position), the other assistants just become more accountable.
 
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Well well well. After last weeks debacle against the Bombers I honestly didn't think we could play any worse. But I've gotta give it to Ayresy's boys. They gave losing one hell of a crack.

Freekicks 20-10 probably kept us in the match.

Collingwood wasted a number of opportunities in the last 3 quarters and should have realistically been up by 4 goals at the last change.

Andrew McLeod needs to really consider his future seriously. I watched him last night on the wing on the broadcast side of the ground stand 2 metres away from a bloke with the ball, wait to see what his opponent was going to do with it. INSTEAD OF BLOODY TACKLING THE BLOKE!!! This is not the Andrew of Old. IF Ayres is coach of the AFC next season McLeod will become the next Modra and Rehn and be traded to another club.

Like I said yesterday afternoon. We were in big trouble before the ball was even bounced. If you've got a forward like Ian Perrie out injured, and obviously the plan from the start was to drop McGregor back to defence YOU DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT DROP SCOTT STEVENS and leave Wayne Carey as the solitary tall forward.

SCOTT WELSH will get 2 weeks for sure. That's if the tribunal is consistent with other charging cases over the years. There's another forward gone.

BOTTOM LINE is it's time to cut our losses.

- Ayres should be sacked by the Adelaide Board immediately. (If the board knew what was good for them they would get somebody like DJ in to nurture the kids for the next 13 rounds, not keep Ayres who hates to give honest blokes like Bodey a go)

- Andrew McLeod, Mark Riccuito and Tyson Edwards and probably Graham Johncock need to be put on notice, that if there form doesn't lift they'll be put back to the SANFL. This is half the players problems this year. They think because of the lack of depth in the side they are playing like million dollar untouchable players.

- Bring in the kids. Fergus Watts, Josh Krueger, Matthew Bode, Aidan Parker, Rowan Andrews, Tim Hazell. Bring them in and give them experience at ALL costs. What's the worst that could happen they get flogged by 20 goals, like they should have last night against any other team bar Collingwood and earn some priority draft picks for next season.

GOD THIS TEAM MAKES ME MAD. I've supported them through the good times (97/98 premierships) and the bad times(Robert Shaw era) but when I can see a ******** like Gary Ayres blatantly ruining the reputation of our great club with substandard coaching efforts something has to be done about it.
 
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#66
Originally posted by Blues_Girl


*BRING BACK BODEY*
Actually I'm going to be writing to the club to express how dissapointed at least 80% of our fans are that Bodey has been treated like pure ****.

I know it will make pigs difference but I need to vent my anger- without a return address and a name. :D
 

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Originally posted by Macca19
i think the crows will win enough games to finish 9-10th. Probably 8 or 9 wins for the year.
That's fantastic, we can be the next Richmond/Geelong. Not good enough to make the finals, not bad enough to get picks for the best talent available either.
 

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Thread starter #68
Originally posted by Blues_Girl
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Hunny thanks for providing such an entertaining start to the weekend :D

We sucked last night. Infact I have to ask myself after last weeks performance why did I back them??

*BRING BACK BODEY*
yes well....hahaha - I've seen the light........oh hang on there is no light at the end of the tunnel - somebody switched them off - last person who left the Crows clubrooms I guess.

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#69
Originally posted by dyertribe
Doughty is 25 this year and in his fifth season... and he's nothing more than an SANFL player. People talk about him like he's this promising 21yo, he's not, he's a mediocre player in the Clay Sampson mould.

Too many times Doughty was too slow with his decision making and there was many an occasion when he looked to get on his right too much. When we were up and flying early in that second quarter he was clear on goal and could've shot on his left, but no, he had to look for his right and was buried holding the ball.

Needs to go in the offseason. Like a blunt axe, he's not much chop.
Fully agree.

Oh & you can add softness to your discription.
 
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Originally posted by dyertribe
Doughty is 25 this year and in his fifth season... and he's nothing more than an SANFL player. People talk about him like he's this promising 21yo, he's not, he's a mediocre player in the Clay Sampson mould.

Too many times Doughty was too slow with his decision making and there was many an occasion when he looked to get on his right too much. When we were up and flying early in that second quarter he was clear on goal and could've shot on his left, but no, he had to look for his right and was buried holding the ball.

Needs to go in the offseason. Like a blunt axe, he's not much chop.
I'll have to disagree there.
I've been a critic of his, but his effort last night was certainly not the worst, in fact I thought he was OK, but like the other "kids" he got tired.
Yes he'll be a 2nd stringer always, but he's woth keeping IMO on his efforts so far this year.
 
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#71
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Thank you very much. Someone that calls it us it is. How can anyone say that Doughty had a good game. He had a stinker. Yes he got a bit of the ball but his decision making was pathetic and he was way too slow on a number of occasions. That bit in the second quarter where he had an opportunity to kick for goals but switched over to his right and got caught was UNFORGIVABLE. You would forgive it if he was a 22 or 22 year old with 10 odd games of AFL footy but he is a 25 year old and approaching the 50 game mark.

Also please tell me what has mattner done. His disposal was pathetic by either hand or foot. Begley played his worst game for the year.
:confused:
I'll disagree on most points here.
I'll pick 10 players who were behind Doughty last night.
I thought Begley was great, in fact when he went off, we lost a lot of our run from the backlines.
And yes he went off because he was injured not due to poor form.

Yes Mattner didn't do much, but 2nd stringers rarely are able to step up, if the 'A" players are injured, out, or not playing well. Doesn't mean on any list you don't have 2nd stringers. Its called the salary cap.
 
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#72
Originally posted by AngelEyes
Are you kidding me? were you even watching the same game channel 9 broadcasted on tv. Begley was good till injured, not bad/worse for a mile I'm speaking to Radar on the phone right now and I have just told her what you said; She tells me that you must be drunk, because noone in their right state of mind would have thought he played a bad game.

Oh and stop dissing mattner, he did a good job. His tackling was intense! That one on Rocca in the first quarter was magnificent! even radar says he was important to the side.

ahh WWT supporters...can any Sturt boys do so wrong? :confused: And Radar informs me; if you dare target any more sturt players (Ie; THE Brent Reilly) she will dispose of you in her gutter! :p That was a message from her, not me.
:) :p
 
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#73
Originally posted by macca23
I tend to agree with AngelEyes Stiffy. I thought Begley was pretty good while he was on and we lost a lot of dash when he went off. I'd be interested in seeing just how many of Didak's possessions were actually got while Begley was on the ground.

Mattner didn't do too bad a job on Wowoedin on the wing, with Woey being moved onto the ball - 2nd quarter I think.
:)
Good assessment, and Begley wasn't on Didak the full time, lots of rotations.
 
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#74
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Mattner was hopeless. End of story. He was down right pathetic and WAS our worst player. Yes he laid 3 good tackles but apart from that he was PATHETIC.
Worst player vote: Skippy
Passed of within 40mtres twice because he can't or won't kick 40 mtres.
Caught 90% of the time when he got the ball, his gamestyle is around the fact he knows he can't break loose, and at AFL level, he's easy pickings.
TOO SLOW FOR AFL FOOTBALL (unless he was 185cm+)
Tries his guts out, and I admire him for that, but unfortunately if you don't have the physical attributes, the "will" just can't compensate (ask Carey)

1st player on my delist list for 2004.
 
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#75
Originally posted by RaDaR ReiLLy
Actually I'm going to be writing to the club to express how dissapointed at least 80% of our fans are that Bodey has been treated like pure ****.

I know it will make pigs difference but I need to vent my anger- without a return address and a name. :D
Unfortunately players pick themselves in football teams, based on performance. Yes we can all discuss the 50/50 selections each week, which Bodey falls into. But its within his ability to make himself an automatic selection, and he hasn't done it.
So is that the clubs fault, the coaches fault, or the players fault? and now at two clubs?
 
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