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... prepare to be absolutely shocked at the number of players who do coke.

It's not ideal, but I'd suggest that things like, say, betting on your own game, assaulting or threatening others, wilful property damage (hello Clayton Oliver) and performance enhancing drug usage are far worse things for a player/team/coach to do.
I am well aware of the massive percentage of the population who do coke, especially those young and cashed up, but thanks for your input, champion.

If you think the coach being coked up doesn't have a negative impact on the team, maybe time to sit this one out. You're obviously not the full quid.
 
I am well aware of the massive percentage of the population who do coke, especially those young and cashed up, but thanks for your input, champion.

If you think the coach being coked up doesn't have a negative impact on the team, maybe time to sit this one out. You're obviously not the full quid.
You can disagree with people on an internet footy forum without being an, ahem, champion.
 
Yeah, I remember when Carlton sacked Bootsma for indiscretions, and the near-universal conclusion was that he mustn't be very good at football ;)

It wasn't that long after this incident that Dane Swan managed to get away with his career after causing a brain injury to a cleaner on a night out. I'm not saying Geelong is innocent on this either, of course - we have a very low-profile-but-also-high-profile issue of our own right now.

I think my main point in all of this, is that taking drugs - especially if it's away from the football club - isn't good, but the things you do to others are much worse.
Swan was a choirboy compared to Didak, and youre right, every club has covered up something..., but I won't recite a litany, it'll just start a fight.

Hope Goodwin gets help, I think he can coach. Could do worse than give Cousins a call if he wants to clean up.
 

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Swan was a choirboy compared to Didak, and youre right, every club has covered up something..., but I won't recite a litany, it'll just start a fight.

Hope Goodwin gets help, I think he can coach. Could do worse than give Cousins a call if he wants to clean up.
I think we need to be a little careful about overstating the extent of personal drug use on the back of rumour (unless you know something I don't, which is very very possible). But otherwise, yes, I agree. And am more than willing to admit Geelong has a few skeletons somewhere.
 
Awkward Season 4 GIF by The Office
 
Not for mine. Waaaay too much baggage across:

  • PED's (remember "The Good Stuff" with Dank at Essendon?)
  • illicit drug use innuendo (where there's smoke there's fire).

I'm not saying he can't coach. Just that his off-field activities have distracted him from what coaching.


yes but the benefit of coaching a Vic club is all your 'culture issues' get swept under the carpet
 
Swan was a choirboy compared to Didak, and youre right, every club has covered up something..., but I won't recite a litany, it'll just start a fight.

Hope Goodwin gets help, I think he can coach. Could do worse than give Cousins a call if he wants to clean up.

That's the unfortunate part, he obviously can. Premierships are too hard to win by accident. That form they hit in September 2021 was out of this world.
 
That's the unfortunate part, he obviously can. Premierships are too hard to win by accident. That form they hit in September 2021 was out of this world.
Melbourne won because they ignored Goodwin's coaching.

He is the luckiest man on earth, but will be remembered as a premiership coach. He did everything possible to not make it happen. An idiot with a long history of poor character who got lucky. That should be his legacy.
 
yes but the benefit of coaching a Vic club is all your 'culture issues' get swept under the carpet
Oh Dan …… you are a tiresome troll

But even I can’t let this one pass…

Yeah the WCFC and its associates , WA media ,WApolice and any other agency with clout in this state most definitely didn’t sweep anything under the carpet regarding that WC era teams drug activity .

I remember it all now …
Ben cousins and bros addiction all happened immediately after the win the 2006 GF…

Everything that club and its players did was above board until that point….

Honestly have you tried surgery?
 
So we are sticking with top 4 isn't top 4 because...?

Not winding you up, but if your thesis is Goodwin couldn't coach, I disagree. Denigrating his footy brain seems silly when his footy record speaks for itself.

He was given some gun players, so were Voss, Fly, Pyke, Buckley etc.

Maybe he should've been sacked for his personal problems, sure the gambling and alleged drugs are his problem, but recruiting, extending him, the silly contracts for Tracc and Clarry, thats the club.
I am with you on this.

They were not failed. We finished top 4 and had a double chance. Both years. Goodwin could coach and I think the issues exist in many forms. We were deficient in goal kicking accuracy, trading in what we needed, too many midfielders of a similar ilk with poor ball usage, and clear off field issues.
 

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I know this is probably not going to be a popular opinion, but I don't really care, from a professional perspective, whether a player/coach gets on the bags or not. Pretty clearly it's not good for them, but it's not as though it's cheating.

The damning thing is that he was apparently partaking in this activity with players who he has/had seniority over (as an authority figure) and would have undermined his coaching role by doing so.

Doing drugs in his own private time with his peers who are not connected to the club is one thing. But indulging in this * ahem * passtime with players? It is absolutely mindbogglingly stupid. Was he trying to relive his playing days in his 20s or something? It's akin to a parent treating his children as his best buddies when he/she is supposed to be an example as well as raising and guiding them.

Goodwin was in a way encouraging this sort illegal behaviour, instead of discouraging it, and I have no doubt that it undermined his authority in the eyes of many players as it would have been hard to take him seriously as an authority figure from that point onwards.
 
The damning thing is that he was apparently partaking in this activity with players who he has/had seniority over (as an authority figure) and would have undermined his coaching role by doing so.

Doing drugs in his own private time with his peers who are not connected to the club is one thing. But indulging in this * ahem * passtime with players? It is absolutely mindbogglingly stupid. Was he trying to relive his playing days in his 20s or something? It's akin to a parent treating his children as his best buddies when he/she is supposed to be an example as well as raising and guiding them.

Goodwin was in a way encouraging this sort illegal behaviour, instead of discouraging it, and I have no doubt that it undermined his authority in the eyes of many players as it would have been hard to take him seriously as an authority figure from that point onwards.
Completely agree with everything you just wrote.
 
The damning thing is that he was apparently partaking in this activity with players who he has/had seniority over (as an authority figure) and would have undermined his coaching role by doing so.

Doing drugs in his own private time with his peers who are not connected to the club is one thing. But indulging in this * ahem * passtime with players? It is absolutely mindbogglingly stupid. Was he trying to relive his playing days in his 20s or something? It's akin to a parent treating his children as his best buddies when he/she is supposed to be an example as well as raising and guiding them.

Goodwin was in a way encouraging this sort illegal behaviour, instead of discouraging it, and I have no doubt that it undermined his authority in the eyes of many players as it would have been hard to take him seriously as an authority figure from that point onwards.

campaigner was doing peds on the premises at Essendon.
 

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