Think im a bit old to be a youngster , im thinking there going to suprise quite alot of people out there this year
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IIRC Mitch Small and Jayden Clarke haven't played a TAC cup game, whilst Billy only played a couple ?
yes correct Clark hasnt played or been in the bushranger system but has played a season in GVFL seniors ,Small been in the bushranger System along with Jones ,Service ,McCarten since 2014 walsh and Bennett also been in the bushranger system according to the Murray Bushrangers Website , so im guessing there pretty talented group seeing not everyone gets a call up
One thing being in a TAC system , its another thing to have actually played TAC Cup.
yes but all these young blokes have played for the Bushies in different age groups other than TAC and a number of them have also played in national championships for country vic
Who has played Nationals? Am with Roar! Easy to get an invite pre-season with the other 100 kids but another thing to have played. Then if only played a couple then usually because not up to that standard. The kids that have an impact at senior level are the good TAC players. Looking forward to seeing the National player names
My understanding is from the Bushrangers website Jones McCarten Service And Small all played Vline cup wth the Bushrangers Being slected from 139 hopefuls Service was the vice Capt of the DIV 1 team , Jones Service and Small played U16s Bushies being selected from 100 hopefuls Jones made the Tac squad the nxt year Service was injured Small and McCarten were cut at the final cut , and this year in my understanding Jones and Service turned down there invitations back to the Tac squad this year to concentrate on study ALL avaliable on the Murray Bushrangers website
Mate I have some bad news for you...VLine Cup is NOT Nationals!! Vline cup is the state under 15 competition that is from regional Victoria. IF you are good enough in that then you MIGHT play Bushies. THEN..when you play well; like really well you MIGHT get chosen for the Vic U/16 Squad. After that you MIGHT make the final 23 and actually play a game.
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I watched Jones McCarten and service play a lot of junior footy at mooroopna, to be honest it's got me stuffed how they got as far in the "bushies system" as they did! Service is prob the pick of the 3 but I think all 3 boys got a tad bit ahead of themselves a couple of years back!
can u write up my footy resume, I played vline cup, you make it sound very important
According to your original post you were asking who these kids were because you didn't know them. Enjoy your 5 minutes of fame, it's going to be a long year for you and your mates.
Don't know em mate that's why I asked the question nobody could answer so checked them out on the Swans website than on the Bushies website got all the answers from there ....
Mate..you need to come up with something better than that! Move on to another subject as its blatantly obvious that you and your mates are just carrying on about the Swans.
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It's an intriguing question isn't it ... He was almost in the 'elite' level prior to his 1st knee reco and then it went to the shite from there.
His game in the GF gives us hope ... while he can't jump as high, he is still a brilliant kick and as you say, a pre-season opens up options as to what position he might play. I wouldn't mind seeing him playing up forward a bit in 2017.
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No doubt that the TAC Cup is an excellent standard and the preferred pathway, but we are kidding ourselves if we sit here and say that the kids are no good because they didn't go through this pathway. From Rochester, Nick O'Connor, Nathan Marrone, Mitch Bright, James Gledhill, Dillon Williams all did not go through this system and would play senior footy at every club in the comp. Preferred pathway, but some great kids miss out on this process.
I don't think anyone was suggesting players had to go via TAC to be any good, more that it was being suggested that being within TAC squad justified a player as a ready made player who would have a large impact.
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Agree with you mate in relation to the five Rochy boys you mention but all are now seasoned players in their early-mid 20's. They are the foundation of the footy club for the next 10 years.
I think Ringo's point is that these kids from the Shepp Swans are not going to cut it at senior level in the GVFL in 2017. Give them five years like the Rochy boys you mention and they may prove to be the same in 2021.
That said, I wouldn't want to assume I know what Ringo thinks.
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On the Money Tongue. I don't like it when posters post utter rubbish! The poster said that the boys had played Nationals and when questioned stated they had played Vline Cup. Now that is like comparing Virat Kholi and Glen McGrath as batsman...there is a huge difference. I also agree that many boys do miss out on Tac and some just develop later and become better players than some of the Tac players.
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Just for the record given you are new to this forum, Ringo knows more than most about the system that is the TAC cup ...
Just sayin' ....
Come on Ringo, how many Test 50s did you make?
I'd be inclined to back some of the young blokes who don't go through the TAC "system" but play Senior footy regularly before being ineligible age wise. They seem to know a bit more about playing against adults.
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Good to see you back Woody!
Gentlemen, My views on 2017 top 6
1st - Kyabram
I expect the gap between first and second to close considerably this year. that said I have Ky at $1.20 to go back to back.
Mangan is a quality in and should fill part of the on field leadership void left by Newman. Will be a similar looking Ky to last year, can only see them loosing 2 games.
2nd - Shepp Bears
Pending the rumours circulating about Wong and weather that will also impact the the signings he has played a part in shepp securing. At this stage Lets assume Wong and the other signings as in. Quality signings to a side that showed a lot late in 2016. Davis will really pick this team up and drag them deep into finals i believe.. any news on departures??
3rd - Rochester
Few departures, notably Bacon and Anderson. A side that pushed Ky more than people expected in the big dance last year. No word on any big signings but always expect 1 or 2 to fly under the radar or sign late with Rochy
4th - Echuca
Under achievers in 2016 as labelled by most, I rate their list and expect it to 'click' for them this year. big wraps on Kirkby. I feel they could go deep into september if they get it right.
5th - Benalla
Being written off by quite a few by the sounds. put simply I think their list is still capable of playing finals, a few departures but more than enough quality in Morgan, Marchbank, Priest co running around.
6th - Euroa
Not buying the hype from what I see, Hayes and Bail great pick ups no doubt but lost their 2 most important players in Horsbourgh and Ikupu, lack of depth killed the pies last year but from all reports there will be plenty this year, quality of it remains to be seen.
1st - Kyabram
I expect the gap between first and second to close considerably this year. that said I have Ky at $1.20 to go back to back.
Mangan is a quality in and should fill part of the on field leadership void left by Newman. Will be a similar looking Ky to last year, can only see them loosing 2 games.
2nd - Shepp Bears
Pending the rumours circulating about Wong and weather that will also impact the the signings he has played a part in shepp securing. At this stage Lets assume Wong and the other signings as in. Quality signings to a side that showed a lot late in 2016. Davis will really pick this team up and drag them deep into finals i believe.. any news on departures??
3rd - Rochester
Few departures, notably Bacon and Anderson. A side that pushed Ky more than people expected in the big dance last year. No word on any big signings but always expect 1 or 2 to fly under the radar or sign late with Rochy
4th - Echuca
Under achievers in 2016 as labelled by most, I rate their list and expect it to 'click' for them this year. big wraps on Kirkby. I feel they could go deep into september if they get it right.
5th - Benalla
Being written off by quite a few by the sounds. put simply I think their list is still capable of playing finals, a few departures but more than enough quality in Morgan, Marchbank, Priest co running around.
6th - Euroa
Not buying the hype from what I see, Hayes and Bail great pick ups no doubt but lost their 2 most important players in Horsbourgh and Ikupu, lack of depth killed the pies last year but from all reports there will be plenty this year, quality of it remains to be seen.
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Nice summation mate. Agree with most apart from Benalla. Priest and Marchbank are out. Martinello to the EDFL. Jacka applied for a clearance. I see them outside the top 5.
Knew martinello was out. Had not heard about the others.. big game changer!
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