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Should the vcfl have a father son rule, where points are halved or 1 pointers, if their father played 100 senior games at a club. Many footballers of today come back home and play, but live in the city, where do their sons grow up playing in the city, if they get recruited to dad's home club they could be a 4 or 5 pointer, in future how do country clubs compete with city clubs?
 

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Should the vcfl have a father son rule, where points are halved or 1 pointers, if their father played 100 senior games at a club. Many footballers of today come back home and play, but live in the city, where do their sons grow up playing in the city, if they get recruited to dad's home club they could be a 4 or 5 pointer, in future how do country clubs compete with city clubs?
That's a really ******* good idea.
 

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Should the vcfl have a father son rule, where points are halved or 1 pointers, if their father played 100 senior games at a club. Many footballers of today come back home and play, but live in the city, where do their sons grow up playing in the city, if they get recruited to dad's home club they could be a 4 or 5 pointer, in future how do country clubs compete with city clubs?
You are always thinking outside the box Trent. Love the idea!.
 

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Should the vcfl have a father son rule, where points are halved or 1 pointers, if their father played 100 senior games at a club. Many footballers of today come back home and play, but live in the city, where do their sons grow up playing in the city, if they get recruited to dad's home club they could be a 4 or 5 pointer, in future how do country clubs compete with city clubs?
This is the best, and most interesting, post to happen on the gv thread for over a week 👍Trent
 

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Should the vcfl have a father son rule, where points are halved or 1 pointers, if their father played 100 senior games at a club. Many footballers of today come back home and play, but live in the city, where do their sons grow up playing in the city, if they get recruited to dad's home club they could be a 4 or 5 pointer, in future how do country clubs compete with city clubs?
Love it
 

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Should the vcfl have a father son rule, where points are halved or 1 pointers, if their father played 100 senior games at a club. Many footballers of today come back home and play, but live in the city, where do their sons grow up playing in the city, if they get recruited to dad's home club they could be a 4 or 5 pointer, in future how do country clubs compete with city clubs?
Brilliant! Should be implemented ASAP. Also great to see something not about rochy and Echuca 😝
 

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And in great hands with Ben Davey coaching them.Although the town often struggles, the football club is an outstanding organisation.
Couldnt agree more Ringo. Ben is a terrific acquisition and coach. Exciting times for him and the Lions in 2021 I believe. They will be thereabouts I am sure.

As for Gary Brown, the amount of work he puts into the club is something else. His and the Committee’s efforts have made the club a focal point of the town. The club and it’s people contribute in so many ways to the local community with so many good things resulting.

I am always impressed by the Lions both on and off field. One of the best clubs I have seen in my travels.
 

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Couldnt agree more Ringo. Ben is a terrific acquisition and coach. Exciting times for him and the Lions in 2021 I believe. They will be thereabouts I am sure.

As for Gary Brown, the amount of work he puts into the club is something else. His and the Committee’s efforts have made the club a focal point of the town. The club and it’s people contribute in so many ways to the local community with so many good things resulting.

I am always impressed by the Lions both on and off field. One of the best clubs I have seen in my travels.
The Lions are mostly thereabouts in my experience. They were powerful when they first come into the GV and won a flag in about '82?

Apart from a low period in the '90's (I think) they have generally been in finals or close to finals. And then they won three in a row and lost their fourth by a kick! Good club! I reckon they are greatly respected around the league.
 

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The Lions are mostly thereabouts in my experience. They were powerful when they first come into the GV and won a flag in about '82?

Apart from a low period in the '90's (I think) they have generally been in finals or close to finals. And then they won three in a row and lost their fourth by a kick! Good club! I reckon they are greatly respected around the league.
Won in 76, their first year in the GV and then went back- to- back in 81/82. Won one in 91 and then the three peat in the early 2000's,05,06,07.. seven in 44 years isnt a bad strike rate at all and I think Gary Browne has been there for all of them.
 

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Should the vcfl have a father son rule, where points are halved or 1 pointers, if their father played 100 senior games at a club. Many footballers of today come back home and play, but live in the city, where do their sons grow up playing in the city, if they get recruited to dad's home club they could be a 4 or 5 pointer, in future how do country clubs compete with city clubs?
Although the points system is about encouraging clubs to recruit their own 1 pointers it is also mentioned with the term equalisation . As we continue to see larger towns with high schools grow their junior sides in junior leagues it comes at the expense of others who don’t have that luxury . There are already significant disparities in the amount of 1 pointers being available to clubs within leagues . Adding father / son type scenario is only likely to increase the disparity .
I agree would be great for sons of fathers who have played at a club to return as 1 pointers , however it would further expose an issue that already exists. The junior pathway needs major consideration , clubs having 2-3 junior sides , at the expense of others, that lead to 1 aligned Senior grade is not doing anything for the broader region particularly player retention beyond junior ages.
Kdl thirds for example is all but rooted since shepp based sides have continued to increase the amount of teams in the shepp district juniors , whilst sides like Tat , Rochy and now Mooropna with the mega school are going to be trying to compete with half to 1/3 of the 1 pointers the shepp based teams and Echuca will have . Add father / son and considering a parent may have two sons the variation or opportunity quickly grows to 1/4 to 1/6 .
 

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Fair point Roar , what about if you used the ranking of the leagues , if they come back to GV it’s 1 point off , Murray it’s 2 points off and Picola and KD it’s 3 , and also make it 100 club games. , for the kid who started at u14’s and went right through to u18’s then had to leave for uni but is finished as is able to come back from the city on the weekends.
 

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Fair point Roar , what about if you used the ranking of the leagues , if they come back to GV it’s 1 point off , Murray it’s 2 points off and Picola and KD it’s 3 , and also make it 100 club games. , for the kid who started at u14’s and went right through to u18’s then had to leave for uni but is finished as is able to come back from the city on the weekends.
Awarding more points for varying leagues won’t help the variation within leagues . As mentioned in previous post some
Clubs are running 2-3 sides in junior comps at one group , these sides are being aligned to senior comps for the purpose of the points system so putting x amount of games means little as the 2-3 sides run for 5-6 years easily equating to 100 plus games .
If the system was to get fair dinkim about making player retention a priority then using the percentage of players who transition from juniors to seniors influencing player points available would be a great start .
 

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Might be getting old but I will hold people accountble for using 'new' names to troll others..done and dusted. Happy to move on but the thread will be a much better place moving forward.
Wasn't it mentioned on here that he isn't who you think it is??
Anyway, be nice to see more footy talk when things get going and less childish tit for tat
 

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Wasn't it mentioned on here that he isn't who you think it is??
Anyway, be nice to see more footy talk when things get going and less childish tit for tat
No mate I'm super confident. If you want to come on here and run down your own players then there is a level of accountability. Hardly tit for tat.
 
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Although the points system is about encouraging clubs to recruit their own 1 pointers it is also mentioned with the term equalisation . As we continue to see larger towns with high schools grow their junior sides in junior leagues it comes at the expense of others who don’t have that luxury . There are already significant disparities in the amount of 1 pointers being available to clubs within leagues . Adding father / son type scenario is only likely to increase the disparity .
I agree would be great for sons of fathers who have played at a club to return as 1 pointers , however it would further expose an issue that already exists. The junior pathway needs major consideration , clubs having 2-3 junior sides , at the expense of others, that lead to 1 aligned Senior grade is not doing anything for the broader region particularly player retention beyond junior ages.
Kdl thirds for example is all but rooted since shepp based sides have continued to increase the amount of teams in the shepp district juniors , whilst sides like Tat , Rochy and now Mooropna with the mega school are going to be trying to compete with half to 1/3 of the 1 pointers the shepp based teams and Echuca will have . Add father / son and considering a parent may have two sons the variation or opportunity quickly grows to 1/4 to 1/6 .
Lalbert have no school roar and haven't for a long time, yet manage to get thirds every year. Itmay
Although the points system is about encouraging clubs to recruit their own 1 pointers it is also mentioned with the term equalisation . As we continue to see larger towns with high schools grow their junior sides in junior leagues it comes at the expense of others who don’t have that luxury . There are already significant disparities in the amount of 1 pointers being available to clubs within leagues . Adding father / son type scenario is only likely to increase the disparity .
I agree would be great for sons of fathers who have played at a club to return as 1 pointers , however it would further expose an issue that already exists. The junior pathway needs major consideration , clubs having 2-3 junior sides , at the expense of others, that lead to 1 aligned Senior grade is not doing anything for the broader region particularly player retention beyond junior ages.
Kdl thirds for example is all but rooted since shepp based sides have continued to increase the amount of teams in the shepp district juniors , whilst sides like Tat , Rochy and now Mooropna with the mega school are going to be trying to compete with half to 1/3 of the 1 pointers the shepp based teams and Echuca will have . Add father / son and considering a parent may have two sons the variation or opportunity quickly grows to 1/4 to 1/6 .
Lalbert haven't had a school, located in the middle of nowhere yet manage to get thirds every year.
My point regarding father son is to allow a Rushworth for example that had a player move to Melbourne yet comes back and plays, yet when they have kids and play in the city growing up could be a 4-5 pointer if Rushworth recruit him. It allows family generations to play at their family club as a 1 pointer,
 

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Lalbert have no school roar and haven't for a long time, yet manage to get thirds every year. Itmay


Lalbert haven't had a school, located in the middle of nowhere yet manage to get thirds every year.
My point regarding father son is to allow a Rushworth for example that had a player move to Melbourne yet comes back and plays, yet when they have kids and play in the city growing up could be a 4-5 pointer if Rushworth recruit him. It allows family generations to play at their family club as a 1 pointer,
I understand the good will which is solid IMO , but it would further lopside the system unfortunately .
 

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I reckon they have added 5-6 top players from Eaglehawk, Rochy and now Kyabram since the end of 2019. Good players from top major league teams is always a key indicator. All 1 points apart from Holman.
Lost a couple too though
Including one of their top players over the last couple of yrs.

I do hear they keep in contact with Faulks often too
 

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